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Laser Gunns  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:47:38 AM(UTC)
We've had at least 3 (that I know of) this week.

Are they evil little spam programs, or are there really people who look for forums to post this crap?
Zero2Cool  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:45:37 AM(UTC)
Every morning I delete several spam posts and several spam accounts. What they do is create one account, then create another to "hide" the last registered user. They think by doing that, they'll have one in the chamber after the first one gets banned. It's really annoying and now I have it so their links change to "SPAM".
rabidgopher04  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:22:26 AM(UTC)
But I was REALLY INTERESTED in buying cabinets in Birmingham!
Pack93z  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:19:41 AM(UTC)
SPAM.. the annoying nature of the beast.. out filter here at work compiles the weekly statistics.. we average around 56% of inbound mail that is spam and blocked. Less than .005 % of those are false positives.

That is the reality of what is out on the net.. and about the only reason I would ever consider supporting a fee on email.. to cut down the spammer/blast mailings.. but that really would be just off setting one cost (spam filtering) with another cost in terms of a bill for email traffic at best.

There isn't a good way of controlling it without being intrusive to the members or the admin.. whether it be an entry question to post or join, an approval process for the first x posts, a restriction on the type of posts (no links) for the first x amount of posts. Etc.

No matter what method, there will be some net affect to either the members or the admin. My opinion anyway.. nature of a forum.
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:28:13 AM(UTC)
the difficult part is these spam fools are actually humans. how do you stop a human on a site that wants contributions in form of posts?
rabidgopher04  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:36:05 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
the difficult part is these spam fools are actually humans. how do you stop a human on a site that wants contributions in form of posts?


Hold new members postings in moderation until they reach a certain number of approved posts (like 5). After they have 5 approved posts they can post without it being held in moderation. Then the spam would never reach the site because you didn't approve it.
Pack93z  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:40:08 AM(UTC)
rabidgopher04 said: Go to Quoted Post
Hold new members postings in moderation until they reach a certain number of approved posts (like 5). After they have 5 approved posts they can post without it being held in moderation. Then the spam would never reach the site because you didn't approve it.


And what about the new actual members that now will be put through a trial phase with held posts. Are the more or less likely to stick around until they pass the trial phase? Maybe that is a benefit though.. it will weed out the hit and run type posters.. lol.


And what about the mod that has to approve them ... is it any less labor intensive than deleting spam and the accounts?
rabidgopher04  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:22:31 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
And what about the new actual members that now will be put through a trial phase with held posts. Are the more or less likely to stick around until they pass the trial phase? Maybe that is a benefit though.. it will weed out the hit and run type posters.. lol.


And what about the mod that has to approve them ... is it any less labor intensive than deleting spam and the accounts?


I don't run the site. That's for you all to determine. :)
Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:00:56 PM(UTC)
Ugh! And to make matters worse, I go off on someone like a complete buffoon who was just being generous with a good link. I hate the spammers even more!
wpr  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:51:16 PM(UTC)
thanks for your hard work kevin. If you want to let some of us delete the spam just say so.
Zero2Cool  
#11 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:14:45 AM(UTC)
Thanks. And I might have to. This is getting really discouraging to keep the site going. Every single morning, more accounts, more spam. I don't know why. We are not that high traffic of a site to start with.


Edit, and I also go to delete them from Facebook and Twitter also because I don't have enough things to do. I'm not even sure it's worth it anymore.
wpr  
#12 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:32:42 AM(UTC)
yeah some guy was whining about it on FB a couple of days ago. Let him do all the work.
Zero2Cool  
#13 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:50:08 AM(UTC)
I'm disabling registration for new members. Screw it, I'm done doing this. I'll have to think of a better way to stop the spam, but deleting it everyday, I am done.
SINCITYCHEEZE  
#14 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:48:20 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
yeah some guy was whining about it on FB a couple of days ago. Let him do all the work.


Could you be talking about Me???? Here is my original quote from my facebook post. "PackersHome mods,could we get these spammers blocked please." I wouldn't call it whining,more like espressing concern.It just pisses me off that that some people have nothing better to do than waste the mods valuable time with such worthless B.S. that no one in there right mind would interested in. Trust me,you wouldn't want me trying to do any computer work for the site. My computer skills leave a lot to be desired.
rabidgopher04  
#15 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:37:12 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm disabling registration for new members. Screw it, I'm done doing this. I'll have to think of a better way to stop the spam, but deleting it everyday, I am done.


Have you tried CAPTCHA?
wpr  
#16 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:41:05 PM(UTC)
SINCITYCHEEZE said: Go to Quoted Post
Could you be talking about Me???? Here is my original quote from my facebook post. "PackersHome mods,could we get these spammers blocked please." I wouldn't call it whining,more like espressing concern.It just pisses me off that that some people have nothing better to do than waste the mods valuable time with such worthless B.S. that no one in there right mind would interested in. Trust me,you wouldn't want me trying to do any computer work for the site. My computer skills leave a lot to be desired.


SCC,

there was suppose to be a smilie face wink after that comment. I was in a hurry to get to the hospital and be with my wife.

Sorry I didn't mean any offense. I actually had changed how I phrased the post and still didn't get it the way I intended.
SINCITYCHEEZE  
#17 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:52:52 PM(UTC)
No worries WPR. These spam a-holes just piss me off too. Wish we could find a way to RickRoll them to internet hell!!!!
macbob  
#18 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:13:23 PM(UTC)
Have New Members have to answer a trivia question before being allowed to post?

Something like, who was the best Packers QB ever? :-"
Wade  
#19 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:50:55 PM(UTC)
macbob said: Go to Quoted Post
Have New Members have to answer a trivia question before being allowed to post?

Something like, who was the best Packers QB ever? :-"


It's a tie:
1a. Frank Patrick.
1b. Jim Del Gaizo.
1c. Carlos Brown.

Zero2Cool  
#20 Posted : Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:54:24 PM(UTC)
Sorry about the spam. Believe me, I try my best to make sure none of you see it. This last attack was quite ruthless. I think it was eight users registered to spam over night. Typically it's between 2 - 4 and one or two posts each.

New registrations are disabled until a satisfactory resolution can be discovered and implemented.




Edit, yes captcha is used and requires I believe 9 digits. A question/answer is not in the software. I am going to see about creating a tool to do just that. The problem though is these are human's, not bots that are doing this. Why are they choosing a Packers fan site for kitchen stuff? No clue.
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