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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:22:43 PM(UTC)
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Video from JSO.

According to Bob McGinn, Pickett, Raji and Jolly all showed up last week "badly out of shape."

He also said Packers badly need size, as they lacked physicality last year. Another tidbit was that the Packers will not take anyone with medical risks.

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#2 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 3:25:19 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Video from JSO.

According to Bob McGinn, Pickett, Raji and Jolly all showed up last week "badly out of shape."

He also said Packers badly need size, as they lacked physicality last year. Another tidbit was that the Packers will not take anyone with medical risks.


am I reading that right that all of them were badly out of shape?

hmmm that's not good.
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#3 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 3:32:30 AM(UTC)
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I don't understand how these guys get "badly out of shape" in just a few months off from football (with the exception of Jolly). Or are the margins between being in shape and out of shape extremely narrow in the NFL?
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#4 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 3:54:17 AM(UTC)
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Most of our "big guys" usually show up out of shape. Pickett has been showing up overwheight for years, I believe this is a repeat offense for Raji too. Honestly in the scheme of things I don't think its a huge deal, they usually shed some pounds and are ready to go by opening day so NBD. With Jolly on the other hand I think he had everything to lose with not being in shape, hope he gets his act together and at least gets a shot in camp.
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#5 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 5:05:49 AM(UTC)
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If it were just Johnny Jolly badly out of shape, I'd be concerned. With all three of them badly out of shape, two of which played a full season last year ... it makes me feel better in the thought that they can get in shape in the next few months.

It gives hope to me for Jolly, ... just not so much for the other two lol


btw, your link is to a video about the draft.
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#6 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 5:23:13 AM(UTC)
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So surprise. Fat boys do that. They know the coaching staff is going to make them sweat so they lounge around when no one is there screaming at them.
As for Jolly, a month ago he didn't even have a job. Why be in "Football shape" if you are not going to play NFL football? Just to impress the babes? He will work it off and get to where he needs to be or he won't make the team. I don't see him being on the final roster anyway so it doesn't really matter what kind of shape he is in.
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#7 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 8:11:34 AM(UTC)
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It's april XD

If this was training camp it would be a different story. This ain't not Albert Haynesworth we're talking about here..
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#8 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 8:16:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
If it were just Johnny Jolly badly out of shape, I'd be concerned. With all three of them badly out of shape, two of which played a full season last year ... it makes me feel better in the thought that they can get in shape in the next few months.

It gives hope to me for Jolly, ... just not so much for the other two lol


Exactly. I never cared much for the opinions of McGinn. If Jolly is basically the same degree of off-season out of condition as the other two, then no problem - with that aspect anyway.


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#9 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 10:59:43 AM(UTC)
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I don't care if they can get in shape by the time the season starts. Many players if not the vast majority stay in game shape or close to it all year round. This is your career that you're making millions on, take it seriously.
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#10 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:17:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
I don't care if they can get in shape by the time the season starts. Many players if not the vast majority stay in game shape or close to it all year round. This is your career that you're making millions on, take it seriously.


I don't dispute that they should all stay in shape. But fatties tend to relax for a couple of months. It just doesn't take very long to got from "football shape" to a tub o goo.

My son ran cross country when he was in HS. He ran 10 miles a day all year long even when it was the off season. (Unless they did sprints then he ran 6 or 7 miles.)

As graduation approached he told me he was going to take a few weeks off just to take a mental break and let the body heal up. I told him if he stopped it wouldn't take 2 weeks for him to lose all his tone. He came back to me a month later and said i was right. He was shocked at how quickly he lost his edge.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:21:16 PM(UTC)
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Well Trgovac just said Pickett is the lightest he's been in 5 years and Raji is about the same weight.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:26:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
Well Trgovac just said Pickett is the lightest he's been in 5 years and Raji is about the same weight.


Lightest he's been "at this time of year" is the quote I heard. LOL
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#13 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:30:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Lightest he's been "at this time of year" is the quote I heard. LOL


either way that doesn't seem like badly out of shape to me
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#14 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:59:31 PM(UTC)
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Well, I will just pretend Johnny Jolly is the giant, fatty NT I was hoping for out of this 2013 draft.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:02:27 PM(UTC)
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Well, I will just pretend Johnny Jolly is the giant, fatty NT I was hoping for out of this 2013 draft.


Me too.
I hope he is really nasty as well.Crying

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#16 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:13:10 PM(UTC)
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Me too.
I hope he is really nasty as well.Crying



Giant, nasty, space eating NT who can somehow jump up and bat passes out of the air. Fucking awesome!!!!Laughing
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#17 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:39:35 PM(UTC)
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Giant, nasty, space eating NT who can somehow jump up and bat passes out of the air. Fucking awesome!!!!Laughing


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#18 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:59:45 PM(UTC)
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Me too.
I hope he is really nasty as well.Crying



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#19 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:05:08 PM(UTC)
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#20 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:14:12 PM(UTC)
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I'm having a tough time caring about what Johnny Jolly does or doesn't do anymore. Roughly 12,500 college players just had a shot at the NFL. A couple of hundred of them actually got drafted, and towards the ass-end of that draft we collectively lose quite a bit of interest.

I cannot respect those that simply toss away the kind of opportunity they were given, as it is in fact profound, when you look at the odds.

I liked him as a player... A LOT.

Not so much as a purple drank sucking fool.

He can KMA. Go play for Oakland or the Texans, closer to his magic trough of cough syrup or whatever.



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#21 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:37:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
I'm having a tough time caring about what Johnny Jolly does or doesn't do anymore. Roughly 12,500 college players just had a shot at the NFL. A couple of hundred of them actually got drafted, and towards the ass-end of that draft we collectively lose quite a bit of interest.

I cannot respect those that simply toss away the kind of opportunity they were given, as it is in fact profound, when you look at the odds.

I liked him as a player... A LOT.

Not so much as a purple drank sucking fool.

He can KMA. Go play for Oakland or the Texans, closer to his magic trough of cough syrup or whatever.





Addiction is an interesting problem. Had he brought such a thing on of his own accord I might let this go, but his mother was a hopeless addict. I fully support Johnny Jolly and his recovery, and hope he succeeds.
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#22 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:49:46 PM(UTC)
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Addiction is an interesting problem. Had he brought such a thing on of his own accord I might let this go, but his mother was a hopeless addict. I fully support Johnny Jolly and his recovery, and hope he succeeds.


I am willing to give him one chance to get it straightened out. But I am a soft touch unlike gunny. Big Grin
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#23 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:41:11 PM(UTC)
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To quote somebody - I can't remember who, before there was J.J. Swat, there was THIS J.J. Swat. I wish him luck in his recovery for one reason - the good of the team.
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:38:20 AM(UTC)
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(I’ve) had opportunity to spend quite a bit of time with Johnny. He’s been in and out of town. His process is not complete yet so he’s not here full time. (But) Johnny’s off to a good start.


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Meanwhile, Trgovac refuted a published report that defensive tackles Ryan Pickett and B.J. Raji came into the offseason program woefully out of shape.

“I think Pickett, in the five years since I’ve been here, I think this is the lightest he’s come in,” Trgovac said. “(And) B.J. came in right about where he left off.”

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#25 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:00:49 AM(UTC)
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I think badly out of shape has to be taken in context of whom the author is.. I, in no way, shape, or form expect Jolly to be in football shape coming in. Glad to hear Trgov refute the other stories.. it provides more insight in a beat writer looking for a story angle.

The skinny of it is this.. Jolly has probably one last shot at the NFL.. if he isn't hungry coming in, he probably will not occupy a roster spot in GB for long. I think we are exposed to no risk in this deal.. personally, I think if he can still play, we are going to get everything the guy has.

And if Jolly is even remotely close to the last time we seen him on the field.. he will provide a huge boost. Not expecting that.. but it would not surprise me either.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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