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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#11 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:02:18 AM(UTC)
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The guy is huge for a 283 pounder. He's got a Justin Smith body, maybe even longer than him. And he's tall. Like others said it doesn't matter what the size is all the time anyways. It's about wheather he can play football. And Datone Jones can play football. Don't deem this pick because he's not 320 pounds. The Raiders have went with Height, Weight, Speed every single draft since I can remember and where has that gotten them? I think Datone can play every down, he can play every position on the Line, maybe even OLB in packages if Perry or Matthews needs a breather. Any team would kill to have Versitility on Defense, 4-3 or 3-4.

Datone and Ziggy Ansah are similar in this aspect. I was really high on these 2 in this draft. I'd watch out for the guy the Lions got. (Ziggy)
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#12 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:02:54 AM(UTC)
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This is exactly why I feel we need 2 DEs out of this draft. Maybe they add a FA DE after the draft. Still some good vets out there.


Jones will need to bulk up a bit.

I also disagree that Raji is better at DE. He's a prototypical NT.
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#13 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:53:10 AM(UTC)
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Jones will need to bulk up a bit.

I also disagree that Raji is better at DE. He's a prototypical NT.


In his build maybe he's prototypical but not ability. He doesn't seem to do too well 2 gapping or even taking on double teams. Raji also played more snaps last year at DE than he did at NT.
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#14 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 12:21:00 PM(UTC)
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In his build maybe he's prototypical but not ability. He doesn't seem to do too well 2 gapping or even taking on double teams. Raji also played more snaps last year at DE than he did at NT.


Pickett is more of a run stuffer, whereas Raji is more of a penetrator and pass rusher.
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#15 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 1:43:11 PM(UTC)
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Big John Hankins!!!!!!

Compared to B.J. Raji, that wuld give The Packers a great rotation.

Hankins at one point was a top 15 pick, he ran aslow 40 which brought down his status a bit.

I can never understand why a 40 time can affect a D-lineman, the only time you see them running that far is to get to dinner table!!!
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#16 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 2:21:53 PM(UTC)
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Jones is 1" less and only 12lbs lighter than JJ Watt. I think Watt is starting to become a decent DE in a 3-4...

I would be surprised if Jones couldn't add 10-15 lbs in the next year or so. He'll be fine.

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#17 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 2:25:24 PM(UTC)
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Jones is 1" less and only 12lbs lighter than JJ Watt. I think Watt is starting to become a decent DE in a 3-4...

I would be surprised if Jones couldn't add 10-15 lbs in the next year or so. He'll be fine.



If and when Jones proves he is as good as JJ Watt I will be thrilled.

Now, let's get some run stuffers.
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#18 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 2:29:31 PM(UTC)
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If and when Jones proves he is as good as JJ Watt I will be thrilled.

Now, let's get some run stuffers.


I will be beyond thrilled.

Watt has put on 10 lbs from his playing weight his senior year. I am betting Jones can also.
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#19 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 2:41:19 PM(UTC)
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Y'all need to get past, letters and numbers. DE/DT 283,290,300 It doesn't matter. Look at SF, both DT/DE are smaller than Jones and Neal. NE are about the same, Bal runs bigger. There is not "prototypical" anything in the NFL especially with the 3-4 because of the versatilty of it. If we are playing Peterson, Pickett will see the field more, than when we play the Saints. We are going to have the ability to line up heavy and light depending on matchups.

And if a defense goes after Jones with a double team, think of it as a good thing, because if they do, they cannot double BJ and Clay and Perry also.
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#20 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 3:27:06 PM(UTC)
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Y'all need to get past, letters and numbers. DE/DT 283,290,300 It doesn't matter. Look at SF, both DT/DE are smaller than Jones and Neal. NE are about the same, Bal runs bigger. There is not "prototypical" anything in the NFL especially with the 3-4 because of the versatilty of it. If we are playing Peterson, Pickett will see the field more, than when we play the Saints. We are going to have the ability to line up heavy and light depending on matchups.

And if a defense goes after Jones with a double team, think of it as a good thing, because if they do, they cannot double BJ and Clay and Perry also.


As I recall Capers says the prototypical 3-4 "end" is 300lbs and tall. You like the NTs heavier and shorter. Datone's got the height, and I think he can put on the weight. I was just taken aback a bit. Dude wasn't even on my board, as I had purposely removed all the 4-3 DE types.

Like I said, if dude can play like JJ Watt, I'll be pleased as punch.
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