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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:34:20 PM(UTC)
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Josh Boyd | Defensive Tackle | Mississippi State | 6'3" - 310 lbs.



STRENGTHS: Josh continually keeps his feet moving while engaged to press the pocket and when chasing ballcarriers down the line. He shows a burst off the line and plays with a low pad level. Maintains leverage and has good awareness to hold his point and then chase down the action with closing burst from behind. He will attack the gaps on zone runs and spin off blocks to get into plays when singled up.

Displays a nice swim move to beat blockers. Not shy with his punch to extend at the point of attack. Carries his weight well and looks comfortable changing directions; frequently asked to drop in space in college.

Boyd shows fluid body control to smoothly redirect his momentum. He is quick-footed and rangy enough to make plays away from the line of scrimmage and flashes the motor to fight through the whistle.



WEAKNESSES: Boyd plays too light at times and struggles with his base strength. His pass rush moves are limited and he is undeveloped as a pass rusher because he rarely gets consistent pressure on the pocket. His average size can be an issue when facing stronger, longer interior offensive linemen. He does move to his sides very well, but lacks agility.

Josh doesn't possess the natural power to do much after his initial move doesn't work. he doesn't display the speed to pursue and Scouts aren’t sold on whether Boyd can be a true 3-technique, meaning he’ll be limited to a one-gap Nose Tackle role.

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Offline Dulak  
#2 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:37:16 PM(UTC)
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and we get our token - big fat guy up front ...

Offline evad04  
#3 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:38:53 PM(UTC)
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There's your one-gap nose tackle. Needs to get bigger, but he's got strength. Questions of whether he's athletic enough to play the 3-technique.

But hey, this is the 5th round. You're looking for value at this point. And he fits a need.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:39:45 PM(UTC)
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Finally.. The era of Jarius Wynn, CJ Wilson feather weights is ovah.


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Offline play2win  
#5 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:40:42 PM(UTC)
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Thank God we added a DT!

BTW, I'm always amazed at how the Strengths and Weaknesses in these reviews often contradict themselves...

At 6-3 310 he ought to be able to add some weight as he develops. Good with the sacks at 8.5 career for a big fella in the middle.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:45:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
Finally.. The era of Jarius Wynn, CJ Wilson feather weights is ovah.


Here Here!

I agree - wynn never belonged in our 3-4 - I think we only brought him back when we got banged up ... wasn't he in our 4-3 the year before we switched?

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#7 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:47:55 PM(UTC)
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Pure 4 year NT...
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#8 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:50:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Josh Boyd | Defensive Tackle | Mississippi State | 6'3" - 310 lbs.



STRENGTHS: Josh continually keeps his feet moving while engaged to press the pocket and when chasing ballcarriers down the line. He shows a burst off the line and plays with a low pad level. Maintains leverage and has good awareness to hold his point and then chase down the action with closing burst from behind. He will attack the gaps on zone runs and spin off blocks to get into plays when singled up.
Tackle role.


Well he has that pad level problem already solved. WINNER

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#9 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:51:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dulak Go to Quoted Post
Here Here!

I agree - wynn never belonged in our 3-4 - I think we only brought him back when we got banged up ... wasn't he in our 4-3 the year before we switched?



Wynn is the exact same size as Datone Jones. LOL. In fairness, Jones is more explosive, stronger, quicker. I think they'll bulk him up.

Boyd looks like a project NT, who will replace Pickett next year.
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Offline DarkaneRules  
#10 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:52:29 PM(UTC)
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Have they mentioned his ability to play multiple alignments successfully or is going to be a one gap player?
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#11 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:56:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RajiRoar Go to Quoted Post
Finally.. The era of Jarius Wynn, CJ Wilson feather weights is ovah.


6'3" 305 is not a feather weight.. lol. Lacks the ability to consistently push the pocket.. but it is not because of a lack of size. Note how he plays against the run..
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline DarkaneRules  
#12 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:08:43 PM(UTC)
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I am watching some film right now and I love his lateral quickness for a big man. This seems to be the drafting motive at the moment...
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#13 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:09:08 PM(UTC)
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Watch his film.

http://bleacherreport.co...sissippi-state-dt/page/2

The guy has some size, but looks like he can add quite a bit more to his frame. Looks pretty athletic.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:10:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
I am watching some film right now and I love his lateral quickness for a big man. This seems to be the drafting motive at the moment...


Yeah. Ted has not messed around with big fatties just to get big fatties... This Josh Boyd has some speed.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:48:53 PM(UTC)
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nice pick up. Looks like another guy would can stuff the run. I like GB's chances if they get other teams one dimensional.

I was wondering if Uncle Ted was going to pass on adding another DL. I was glad to see him make the move.

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Offline play2win  
#16 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:03:41 AM(UTC)
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I am liking the Josh Boyd pick more and more as I learn about his level of play. This from Zach Kruse at BR:

"WWith an obvious short- and long-term need along the defensive line, the Green Bay Packers decided one dip into the positional pool wasn't enough during the 2013 NFL draft.

Four rounds after taking UCLA defensive end Datone Jones, the Packers called on Mississippi State's Josh Boyd at No. 167 in the fifth round.

The double-dip wasn't surprising. Depth worries and looming contract statuses ensured the Packers would enter this year's draft with a priority of adding bodies to the defensive line.

At 6'3" and 310 pounds, Boyd is a wide body capable of contributing to the rotation next season.

Here's how Boyd fits in Green Bay.



Role: Rotational two-down run-stuffer

Anyone who watched even a few minutes of the Packers' playoff exit in San Francisco this past January could identify run defense as a clear weakness in Green Bay.

At least some of those struggles could be attributed to the Packers' draft in 2012, when they took two defensive linemen—Jerel Worthy and Mike Daniels—who were expected to help bolster the pass rush. Neither Worthy, who struggled at times as a rookie, nor Daniels, more of a situational pass-rusher, contributed much in terms of run-stopping.


Adding a big body like Boyd will help in that area next season.

Possessing good length and functional strength in his 310-pound frame, Boyd should be a capable two-down run-stuffer for the Packers next season.

Boyd might not be much of a factor as a pass-rusher (just 8.5 career sacks in three years of starting experience), but Dom Capers can take him off the field in obvious passing downs for the likes of Daniels, Worthy (when healthy) and Mike Neal.

Double-teams in the run game shouldn't be a problem for him, as Boyd posted 32 reps of 225 pounds at the NFL combine. That power will make him capable of holding the anchor point in the base defense as a potential 5-technique or nose tackle.


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While Boyd likely won't be asked to be anything more than a rotational player as a rookie, down the road expectations may rise.

The Packers have five defensive linemen who will be free agents following the 2013 season, including veteran Ryan Pickett. All five won't move on next spring, but it's reasonable to expect the Packers to lose some depth up front.

And Pickett, who will turn 34 in October, can't be counted on to play at a high level as a run-stopper forever. He could regress starting next season, and Boyd might be the one called on to replace him.

All these factors make it less than surprising that general manager Ted Thompson decided to double-dip on defensive linemen.

Jones can be the disruptive, three-down player the Packers need right now, while Boyd can fill in as a rotational player in 2013 before potentially playing a much bigger role down the road."
http://bleacherreport.co...neman-fit-with-green-bay

Also this video reaction to the pick:
http://bleacherreport.co...s-instant-video-reaction



And this explains some of his drop off in his Senior year after a really great Junior year at MSU:

"For each of the past three years, Mississippi State has had at least three players taken in the NFL Draft. Defensive tackle Josh Boyd became the third this year when he was selected late in the fifth round by Green Bay on Saturday.

Boyd was the 34th pick of the round, 167th overall. On Friday, former Bulldogs Darius Slay and Johnthan Banks were both taken in the second round.

It’s the first time since 1999-2001 that State had at least three players drafted three consecutive years. Under coach Dan Mullen, who’s been at the helm four years, MSU has had 12 players drafted by NFL teams.

After a strong junior season in which he recorded career highs in tackles (51), tackles-for-loss (8.0) and sacks (5.5), Boyd saw his numbers go down as a senior without former linemate Fletcher Cox – a first-round pick last year – by his side.

The 6-foot-3, 310-pound Boyd had 33 tackles, 2.5 TFLs and 1.5 sacks last season.

“For a big guy, he’s got some pretty nimble feet,” Packers defensive line coach Mike Trgovac told the Milwaukee Journal.

Read more: Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal - Packers select DT Boyd"
http://djournal.com/view...dary_stories_left_column

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#17 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:09:40 PM(UTC)
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He's all you would expect for a 5th round pick. Apparently not a bowl 'em over/brutalize 'em type interior D Lineman like I had hoped Raji would be, but then Raji never was that either and he cost us a 1st round pick. He should serve the purpose as a rotational player with Raji and Pickett - nothing special, same as them, but fairly adequate.
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