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Offline nerdmann  
#31 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:22:32 PM(UTC)
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Of all Ted's drafts in GB, at the end of draft day, this is going to be the one I am least excited about. I think he missed on oppourunities. There were players better than what we ended up with in the 4th when he moved back in the 3rd. I think the guys he wanted to target today got snagged and he was unable ot find a trade partner when it came time.

I don't think these Olineman improved out line and there was a chance to do that this year. I like Jones, and Lacey could be good with a line in front of him.


I think it looks like he's a genius. Eddie Lacy!? AND Johnathan Franklin!? ARe you kidding me? LOL
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#32 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:40:00 PM(UTC)
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sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
A simple answer to your question of "why all the gnashing of teeth with Ted's trades" is because all these people know so much more than Ted Thompson does about being an NFL GM. That is why they are making the big bucks evaluating NFL talent and Ted Thompson is flipping burgers.


Well hell, since Ted is God, why haven't the Packers won every SB since he came to GB? There are other teams that take players Ted passes on, are they all wrong?
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#33 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:41:35 PM(UTC)
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Well hell, since Ted is God, why haven't the Packers won every SB since he came to GB? There are other teams that take players Ted passes on, are they all wrong?


Ted Thompson doesn't want to give it away that he is God so he lets puny mortals win from time to time.
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Offline nerdmann  
#34 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:46:20 PM(UTC)
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Well hell, since Ted is God, why haven't the Packers won every SB since he came to GB? There are other teams that take players Ted passes on, are they all wrong?


Other teams are reaching for need. They also may not have scouts as good as ours.

That, and Mike and Aaron's stat whoring.
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#35 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:49:06 PM(UTC)
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Good RBs have a way of making mediocre OLs look much better than they are.


And the opposite is true also. Though Our problem IMO was more that our guys don't block the scheme well. That if the scheme changes, they would open holes better. If they actually run consistently, they will get better.
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#36 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:52:27 PM(UTC)
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Other teams are reaching for need. They also may not have scouts as good as ours.

That, and Mike and Aaron's stat whoring.


Not 31 other teams.
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#37 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:58:34 PM(UTC)
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
And the opposite is true also. Though Our problem IMO was more that our guys don't block the scheme well. That if the scheme changes, they would open holes better. If they actually run consistently, they will get better.


This may be true, but Grant left ALOT of yards on the field with his lack of vision. And Green was always going for the home run. Cedric Benson seemed to always get what was there, but he wasn't a breakaway threat. I think Green was learning from him late in the year.

Starks was a good running but was hamstrung with injuries and Harris was only just getting started.

So I guess what I'm saying is that I don't put it ALL on the OL.

I also don't think Kuhn is the best FB. They like him for his versatility.
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#38 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:03:29 PM(UTC)
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This may be true, but Grant left ALOT of yards on the field with his lack of vision. And Green was always going for the home run. Cedric Benson seemed to always get what was there, but he wasn't a breakaway threat. I think Green was learning from him late in the year.

Starks was a good running but was hamstrung with injuries and Harris was only just getting started.

So I guess what I'm saying is that I don't put it ALL on the OL.

I also don't think Kuhn is the best FB. They like him for his versatility.


Grant had good vision, he just ran with too much lean so any contact took him down. I just look back, and we had a better than average running game, until Mike McCarthy switched us to the outsize zone. Since then, we have struggled.
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#39 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:29:40 PM(UTC)
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Well hell, since Ted is God, why haven't the Packers won every SB since he came to GB? There are other teams that take players Ted passes on, are they all wrong?


Not at all but I will guarantee you that for every player another team takes that you wanted Ted Thompson to take there will be fans bitching and moaning about the pick. Ted Thompson is not a God, never said he was, but I will bet dollars to donuts that he knows a hell of a lot more about the players in the draft than anyone on this site or any site like it. I'll bet he knows a hell of a lot more than pretty much anyone who has ever done a mock draft as well.

You certainly don't have to agree with the picks but everyone who disagrees act's like they have some sort of inside information that proves the guy they wanted will be an all pro while the guy Ted Thompson actually took will suck.

Not all of TT's picks will pan out that is for certain and in some cases the guy you wanted him to take may actually have been a better choice but so many of you act like he is throwing darts at a list of names. What makes you so certain that just because some flunkie at one of a 1000 mock draft sites thinks that the guy Ted Thompson took would have been there 3 rounds later that the team after the Packers wouldn't have taken him?

Everyone has guys on their list that they would like to see and some people actually have reasons behind it but your list and your reasons are no more reliable than TT's and I would dare say they are many many times less.

If Ted Thompson thinks a guy is worth the pick its because he sees something that he thinks the guy can offer. He is not just pulling names out of his ass simply to piss you off. Maybe you can't see it but in the end it really doesn't matter what you can see. It's Teds' list and Teds choice and he is taking the guy he thinks is the best choice at the time.
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#40 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:40:26 PM(UTC)
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Ted Thompson is not a God, never said he was, but I will bet dollars to donuts that he knows a hell of a lot more about the players in the draft than anyone on this site or any site like it.


You don't know me to well, or my profession, huh? :)
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