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Offline play2win  
#1 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:11:56 AM(UTC)
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This from @DraftScout's Rob Range:

"Anyone who watched the Packers get dismantled by San Francisco in the playoffs anticipated that general manager Ted Thompson would focus on defense early and he did so, nabbing productive defensive end Datone Jones from UCLA in the first round. Jones was terrific this past season for the Bruins and carried that over to the Senior Bowl. The Packers only had one selection on Day Two, but he could prove a steal, nabbing running back Eddie Lacy, a player many (including myself) projected them to take a round earlier. Lacy has drawn comparisons to Steven Jackson for his blend of power and agility. Considering the red-zone opportunities that he could get with Aaron Rodgers throwing the football, Lacy could be an offensive rookie of the year candidate -- if that is, he beats out fourth-round selection Jonathan Franklin, who left UCLA as the team's all-time rushing leader and turned heads at the Senior Bowl. Franklin was the headliner, but was just one of the standouts from the Packers' impressive haul on day three. Frankly, no team got better value in rounds four and five than Green Bay. David Bakhtiari and J.C. Tretter are future contributors to an offensive line that needed reinforcements and defenders Micah Hyde and Josh Boyd are good football players who didn't get enough national attention after being overshadowed by more high profile teams in their power conferences." Grade: A

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I take them all with a grain of salt immediately after the draft, but some of the stuff is definitely encouraging.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:21:32 AM(UTC)
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I don't pay attention to college football so I don't know the players, and nobody knows how they'll work out for the team for at least a year or so. I mainly look at the positions we drafted and rely on "expert" analysis to determine if the guy's got any huge deficiencies. We hit all of our major needs, I'm surprised we grabbed two RBs early on and would have preferred some extra O line help or maybe a TE if quality happened to exist at that point in those positions, but overall I'd give Ted a tentative B.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:31:33 AM(UTC)
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I give this years draft a A-
Id of ranked it higher if we'd of grabbed Okoye, Lawrence (but he's going to SF now as a UDFA)

I like all our picks - the corner/safety guy seems a bit iffy - seems like some of our UDFA might be better then him.

But we got a nice DE, 2 solid RB (can you believe that??? Ive wanted a decent running back years ago ... heck I think we all have; I mean Brandon Jackson had a decent year a few years ago but that's it ... we only got to see grant run into our Oline men ... starks was decent for the SB run up but then got what ... turf toe? and was out? ... geez ...
anyways - we might have a running game ...)

we got 2 OLine dudes that can spar for a place on the team and 2 WRs that might pan out - I don't like boykin (spelling?) (ross is our return guy right so he was decent (cept for the fumble), and we got 2 OLBers that can compete opposite Matthews.

and a NT ... really cant complain.

quite excited about our potential run game as you can tell ... that franklin guy looks like a mini cobb; catching passes and running with it ... I see lacey more of a back like Michael Turner (strong legs and a nice cut) and franklin more like a percy harvin type ... who knows ...

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#4 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:49:09 PM(UTC)
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Chris Burke, SI.com:

http://nfl.si.com/2013/0...9ers-rams-top-the-class/

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So…no one else wanted RBs Eddie Lacy or Johnathan Franklin? Well, good luck trying to stop them in Green Bay’s offense. DE Datone Jones also has a perfect look for the Packers’ front. G/T David Bakhtiari gives the Packers another option along the O-line (as does J.C. Tretter), while S Micah Hyde will be in the mix on defense. Grade: A-minus


In SI.com's Steals & Reaches article, Chris said:

http://nfl.si.com/2013/0...raft-steals-and-reaches/

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• Eddie Lacy and Johnathan Franklin, RBs, Packers (Nos. 61 and 125): First, Lacy dropped to Green Bay late in Round 2. Then, the same scenario played out with Franklin at almost exactly the same spot in Round 4. These backs could have been the top two off the board at their position and no one would have batted an eye.


Evan Silva on Rotoworld:

http://www.rotoworld.com...ft-2013-nfc-draft-grades

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26. Datone Jones, defensive end, UCLA.
61. Eddie Lacy, running back, Alabama.
109. David Bakhtiari, guard/tackle, Colorado.
122. J.C. Tretter, guard/center, Cornell.
125. Johnathan Franklin, running back, UCLA.
159. Micah Hyde, defensive back, Iowa.
167. Josh Boyd, defensive lineman, Mississippi State.
193. Nate Palmer, outside linebacker, Illinois State.
216. Charles Johnson, receiver, Grand Valley State.
224. Kevin Dorsey, receiver, Maryland.
232. Sam Barrington, linebacker, South Florida.

Overview: GM Ted Thompson annually dominates on draft day; it's where he butters his bread. The Packers are not a free-agency team. Jones is a relentless, potentially special inside rusher who finally gives Green Bay a legitimate replacement for Cullen Jenkins. Lacy and Franklin can form a Thunder & Lightning backfield with the former as a light-footed wrecking ball and latter in the big-play, change-up role. Both rookies can pick up the blitz and play on all three downs. Bakhtiari is a heady, athletic mover and fit for the Packers' zone scheme. Hyde, Palmer, and Barrington are core special teams guys. Johnson abused his competition at small-school Grand Valley State and has Julio Jones-like measurables. The value on Lacy, Franklin, and Johnson was sensational. Chalk up another draft-weekend "win" for arguably the top GM in the sport.

Grade: B+


Foxsports (3 graders):

http://msn.foxsports.com...ckers&photo=31721454

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Floyd Engel: (A) The power of a good GM has been proven again. Ted Thompson killed it, especially like the two running backs he picked up in Eddie Lacy and Johnathan Franklin.

Marvez: (B) UCLA’s Datone Jones fits the bill as a 3-4 end. The selection of Lacy (second round) and UCLA’s Franklin (fourth) doesn’t bode well for incumbent running backs James Starks and Alex Green.

Schrager: (B+) Jones is a talented 6-4 defensive lineman that can play multiple spots. He’s stout enough to play defensive tackle and can get to the quarterback. Lacy was a nice value pick in the second round, but Franklin could be a Warrick Dunn clone. Two solid running backs to add to a good squad.


The Sporting News:

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Grade A:

Green Bay Packers: The highlight of another good Ted Thompson haul was doubling up on running backs with Alabama's Eddie Lacy and UCLA's Johnathan Franklin. After their recent injury mess at the position, the powerful fresh legs the Packers now have sets them up for a much stronger committee approach. They also nailed the first round with UCLA defensive end Datone Jones, a versatile player ready to be a productive pass rusher in their 3-4. Then they went for two offensive tackles — Colorado's David Bakhtiari and Cornell's J.C. Tretter — who will end up helping on their line somewhere.

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#5 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:11:39 PM(UTC)
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I don't know much about the players and I don't bother with +/- grades. It will be 3 years before we know for sure but as of now I don't mind saying it looks like a solid "B"
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Offline yooperfan  
#6 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:02:48 PM(UTC)
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I feel much better now after reading those draft grades.
Especially wpr giving a B. he and I seemed to be on the same negative page on Friday night.
Now get em all signed and put em to work.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#7 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:29:14 PM(UTC)
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I think we should be grading the draft from three years ago, not the one from a day ago. I'd give the draft an A if they didn't blow their second round pick. Alas, they did, so C+.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:35:27 PM(UTC)
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Some years it certainly hasn't been this way, but I am extremely happy with this draft. I give it "A" with an upgrade to "A+" if the UDFAs are factored in.

I said way back "that UCLA kid" was my first choice as a first round pick, although I didn't think it would happen. I thought they'd take one of the big DT clods. We did NOT need O Line help in the early rounds UNLESS they were negative about Sherrod coming back strong. Not going that direction speaks even louder than McCarthy's positive words about Sherrod.

I am on record as wanting Montee Ball - I plead guilty to homerism for that. I also did not want Lacy in the first round. Getting him in the second, though, is fantastic. IMO, the sky is the limit for this guy, and not much less for Franklin, considering where we got him.

Many wanted a Safety drafted early; I did not. Many wanted a Center drafted early, I also am on record as NOT wanting that.

I wish we had done a little bit more at OLB, but maybe Palmer is enough. Here too, the NOT taking of an OLB earlier seems to mean they have confidence in Perry coming back strong.

I'm surprised no ILB was taken, but this also could mean Bishop is on track to return healthy ( I HOPE it doesn't merely mean confidence in Brad Jones).

Everybody seems great the day after the draft, of course, but the reports on the backup O Linemen taken seems good. Ditto that for Hyde and Smith as well as Johnson and Dorsey. Throw in Stoneburner, and we have the TE I expected to grab late in the draft (thankfully not in the first or second round).

As I said, A+.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:43:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: yooperfan Go to Quoted Post
I feel much better now after reading those draft grades.
Especially wpr giving a B. he and I seemed to be on the same negative page on Friday night.
Now get em all signed and put em to work.


I had PMS and bloating issues. I feel better now. Big Grin
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#10 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:45:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
I had PMS and bloating issues. I feel better now. Big Grin


http://www.standard.co.u...er-from-pms-6988315.html


C+ for draft
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Offline wpr  
#11 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:46:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Some years it certainly hasn't been this way, but I am extremely happy with this draft. I give it "A" with an upgrade to "A+" if the UDFAs are factored in.

I said way back "that UCLA kid" was my first choice as a first round pick, although I didn't think it would happen. I thought they'd take one of the big DT clods. We did NOT need O Line help in the early rounds UNLESS they were negative about Sherrod coming back strong. Not going that direction speaks even louder than McCarthy's positive words about Sherrod.

I am on record as wanting Montee Ball - I plead guilty to homerism for that. I also did not want Lacy in the first round. Getting him in the second, though, is fantastic. IMO, the sky is the limit for this guy, and not much less for Franklin, considering where we got him.

Many wanted a Safety drafted early; I did not. Many wanted a Center drafted early, I also am on record as NOT wanting that.

I wish we had done a little bit more at OLB, but maybe Palmer is enough. Here too, the NOT taking of an OLB earlier seems to mean they have confidence in Perry coming back strong.

I'm surprised no ILB was taken, but this also could mean Bishop is on track to return healthy ( I HOPE it doesn't merely mean confidence in Brad Jones).

Everybody seems great the day after the draft, of course, but the reports on the backup O Linemen taken seems good. Ditto that for Hyde and Smith as well as Johnson and Dorsey. Throw in Stoneburner, and we have the TE I expected to grab late in the draft (thankfully not in the first or second round).

As I said, A+.


I am not so sure about Sherrod yet. He could have issues still. Ted and Mike could have decided to go with who they got and develop someone over the next couple of years. Both RB are good at blocking so they and a TE along with Aaron Rodgers rolling right may mitigate poor play at LT.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:48:47 PM(UTC)
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Mike McCarthy said he's really counting on Derek Sherrod, said he's a different man after the second surgery. Definitely a lot better than he was during the season. Someone we have to get healthy and get in there.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:49:14 PM(UTC)
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C+ for draft


yes men "suffer" from PMS every time women with it are nearby.
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Offline wpr  
#14 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:50:47 PM(UTC)
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Mike McCarthy said he's really counting on Derek Sherrod, said he's a different man after the second surgery. Definitely a lot better than he was during the season. Someone we have to get healthy and get in there.


I have not seen that. All I have seen was Mike being hopeful and evasive when it comes to Sherrod's health. Not that I doubt you at all.
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#15 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:15:43 PM(UTC)
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I have not seen that. All I have seen was Mike being hopeful and evasive when it comes to Sherrod's health. Not that I doubt you at all.


You seem to be slippin' tonight, wpr. This came from the JSOnline article which YOU posted about McCarthy's news conference:

"On Sherrod: Counting on Derek Sherrod to be a factor. He's making progress. I don't have a timeline for you but it's further along."

correction: mintbacondrivel posted it, but you had the only reply to it.
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#16 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:11:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
You seem to be slippin' tonight, wpr. This came from the JSOnline article which YOU posted about McCarthy's news conference:

"On Sherrod: Counting on Derek Sherrod to be a factor. He's making progress. I don't have a timeline for you but it's further along."

correction: mintbacondrivel posted it, but you had the only reply to it.


I was worried for a second. I didn't remember posting a JSO note. We only get so many free viewings on JSO a month and I have not been in to their site in a week or so. Sadly I use to go there every day. Now that they limit how many times you can view I rarely go at all. I guess they are the smart ones.
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#17 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:26:42 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
I was worried for a second. I didn't remember posting a JSO note. We only get so many free viewings on JSO a month and I have not been in to their site in a week or so. Sadly I use to go there every day. Now that they limit how many times you can view I rarely go at all. I guess they are the smart ones.


Delete your JSOnline.com cookie and you'll be fine, or use a different browser. Same applies for PackersNews.com.
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#18 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 5:32:40 AM(UTC)
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Delete your JSOnline.com cookie and you'll be fine, or use a different browser. Same applies for PackersNews.com.


shhhh. That is cheating. Big Grin

At least this way I can actually read more of their stories. Which is what they should be striving for to begin with.
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#19 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 9:02:04 AM(UTC)
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My Grades.. For the majority of the draft, especially day three.. I think they cleaned up. Jones in the first looks the part.. only question is was he just a late bloomer or does one year overvalue him in totality?

I don't like the Lacy pick overall, it was good value based on the draftniks, but the 5 times I watched Bama play last season, I never came away saying he was the best back in college football.. probably not even on his own team. Couple that with injury concerns and his overall desire to play the game.. not so sure that he was the best value on the board in the second for the Packers. Again, hope I am wrong.

After those two questions.. I have almost zero concerns about the other picks.. especially like WR prospects late.

A-

I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#20 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 9:32:51 AM(UTC)
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My Grades.. For the majority of the draft, especially day three.. I think they cleaned up. Jones in the first looks the part.. only question is was he just a late bloomer or does one year overvalue him in totality?

I don't like the Lacy pick overall, it was good value based on the draftniks, but the 5 times I watched Bama play last season, I never came away saying he was the best back in college football.. probably not even on his own team. Couple that with injury concerns and his overall desire to play the game.. not so sure that he was the best value on the board in the second for the Packers. Again, hope I am wrong.

After those two questions.. I have almost zero concerns about the other picks.. especially like WR prospects late.

A-



I'm tellin' ya. Eddie Lacy will be better than you think for us. I'm not buying into the hype that many people love him or the fact he's from Alabama. I watched the tape. Couple games 2-3. Right away I was blown away from this guy. His acceleration for a big man is impressive, and that spin move is amazing. I think Mike McCarthy loves him because he can move well with his size. Like we used to have in Grant.

He's not the second coming by all means.. but I think a lot of teams made a mistake on not drafting him. Reminds me of Micheal Turner with so much lower body strength, always keeping his legs turning.

Sometimes he gets tackled easily which I've seen at times. But once he gets going in the 2nd level of the defense he's hard to bring down. He can get you something out of nothing. And for once we can run on 3rd down. Instead of the predictable FB dive every third and short or on the goaline.
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#21 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2013 10:03:29 AM(UTC)
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I would love to eat crow on Lacy.. really would. We shall see..
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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