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MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Friday, May 3, 2013 5:27:48 AM(UTC)
JerseyAl said:
It's a little early, but the 2013 draft might contain a special treat for Green Bay Packers fans, namely a shot at a Packers rookie getting the prestigious Offensive NFL Rookie Of The Year Award.  Last year's draft was basically all defense with only BJ Coleman and Andrew Datko getting picked in the 7th round, [...]
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#2 Posted : Friday, May 3, 2013 6:02:25 AM(UTC)
Seems like only "skill position" players are on this guy's list. Don't O Linemen get any love hahaha?

I agree, Eddie Lacy is as likely or more than any of those to be offensive R.O.Y.
Gaycandybacon  
#3 Posted : Friday, May 3, 2013 6:27:27 AM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Seems like only "skill position" players are on this guy's list. Don't O Linemen get any love hahaha?

I agree, Eddie Lacy is as likely or more than any of those to be offensive R.O.Y.


Well you know it won't be a QB this year. XD

echizen20  
#4 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:05:11 PM(UTC)
This is really hard because had we not drafted Franklin, I would agree with the OP. However since we did draft Franklin, I really don't see it happening because 1. Franklin could outplay Lacy and instead he could be a candidate for ROTY. or 2. Those two just balance each other out and neither really sticks out. Either way though I'm happy and excited for having both these players on our team! I believe ROTY or not, both these guys will contribute right away and finally give us the balance we've always wanted and give us a true dual threat offense. We might be the most dangerous offense this year if everything pans out.
Gaycandybacon  
#5 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:07:05 PM(UTC)
I really don't care if he wins ROTY or not. (or Franklin, or Datone Jones :) ) It would be great, but if they can make our running game better than the last 3 years i'll be a happy camper.
beast  
#6 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:05:43 PM(UTC)
texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Seems like only "skill position" players are on this guy's list. Don't O Linemen get any love hahaha?


No... not for awards... unless it's OL only award.

Associated Press' Offense rookie of the year has always been won by a QB, RB or WR since 1967...

only Packer to win it was RB John Brockington in 1971.

On defense
CB Willie Buchanon in 1972.
S Tom Flynn in 1984.


The United Press which started a little early has some more Packers offense guys,

Flanker Boyd Dowler in 1959.
Kicker Chester Marcol in 1972.


http://en.wikipedia.org/...Rookie_of_the_Year_Award
beast  
#7 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:16:00 PM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
Well you know it won't be a QB this year. XD



I don't think it will be but this article says the odds say Geno Smith is projected as the winner...

According to this article

Name Team Odds of winning ROTY

Geno Smith New York Jets 5-1
Tavon Austin St. Louis Rams 13-2
Montee Ball Denver Broncos 8-1
Eddie Lacy Green Bay Packers 8-1
C. Patterson Minnesota Vikings 8-1
Tyler Eifert Cincinnati Bengals 10-1
DeAndre Hopkins Houston Texans 12-1
Keenan Allen San Diego Chargers 15-1
Stedman Bailey St. Louis Rams 15-1
Le’Veon Bell Pittsburgh Steelers 15-1
Giovani Bernard Cincinnati Bengals 15-1
Zach Ertz Philadelphia Eagles 15-1
Eric Fisher Kansas City Chiefs 15-1
J. Franklin Green Bay Packers 15-1
Justin Hunter Tennessee Titans 15-1
Luke Joeckel Jacksonville Jaguars 15-1
Robert Woods Buffalo Bills 15-1
Denard Robinson Jacksonville Jaguars 20-1
E.J. Manuel Buffalo Bills 20-1


http://www.bloomberg.com...ensive-rookie-award.html
sschind  
#8 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 9:49:37 AM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't think it will be but this article says the odds say Geno Smith is projected as the winner...

According to this article

Name Team Odds of winning ROTY

Geno Smith New York Jets 5-1
Tavon Austin St. Louis Rams 13-2
Montee Ball Denver Broncos 8-1
Eddie Lacy Green Bay Packers 8-1
C. Patterson Minnesota Vikings 8-1
Tyler Eifert Cincinnati Bengals 10-1
DeAndre Hopkins Houston Texans 12-1
Keenan Allen San Diego Chargers 15-1
Stedman Bailey St. Louis Rams 15-1
Le’Veon Bell Pittsburgh Steelers 15-1
Giovani Bernard Cincinnati Bengals 15-1
Zach Ertz Philadelphia Eagles 15-1
Eric Fisher Kansas City Chiefs 15-1
J. Franklin Green Bay Packers 15-1
Justin Hunter Tennessee Titans 15-1
Luke Joeckel Jacksonville Jaguars 15-1
Robert Woods Buffalo Bills 15-1
Denard Robinson Jacksonville Jaguars 20-1
E.J. Manuel Buffalo Bills 20-1


http://www.bloomberg.com...ensive-rookie-award.html


I think this speaks more toward the lack of a clear cut front runner like last years Luck or RGIII or even Richardson or Martin, than towards any one player's skills.

Smith is probably the front runner just as much because he plays for the Jets as for his ability. If he starts and plays well enough to get the Jets into the playoffs that may be enough unless some other player lights it up. I don't see Lacy or Franklin lighting it up enough for two reasons, first, they will have to compete with each other in addition to Harris and second, no matter how much we get excited about a running game this will ALWAYS be a pass first team. If Lacy can get heavily involved in the passing game it will obviously help him a lot.

Austin has a better shot than Patterson IMO because he has a better QB throwing to him and he will most likely be the main focus of the passing game in St Louis. Still its tough for WRs to stand out heads and shoulders above the RBs and QBs which I think it is what it will take for a WR to win it.

Believe it or not, I think the guy with the best chance is Montee Ball. I think he will be the guy in Denver and the Broncos are not afraid to run the ball (no pun intended.) I just think his situation is better than the others so he will have far less pressure on him than any of the QBs or the other RBs.

Like GCB says though, I really don't care if they don't win the award. If the make the running game better that's all I really care about and even if they are being talked about for the award that can only be a good thing.
nerdmann  
#9 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 1:26:46 PM(UTC)
This is all well and good, but let's not jinx the guy.

Let him suit up and get on the field before we crown him.
PackerTraxx  
#10 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 2:41:16 PM(UTC)
I would sooner see Jones win it on D.
yooperfan  
#11 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 8:58:56 PM(UTC)
Sorry, but I don't believe any runningback could win ROY with Mike McCarthy calling the plays.
And that would be if Barry Sanders were a rookie at this time, or say AP.
His (MM) disdain for the running game should preclude such thinking.
steveishere  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:32:11 AM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
Sorry, but I don't believe any runningback could win ROY with Mike McCarthy calling the plays.
And that would be if Barry Sanders were a rookie at this time, or say AP.
His (MM) disdain for the running game should preclude such thinking.


Ryan Grant was a top 10 rusher 2 years in a row with McCarthy calling the plays.
yooperfan  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:12:22 AM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Ryan Grant was a top 10 rusher 2 years in a row with McCarthy calling the plays.


A running back who is merely in the top 10 isn't going to get many accolades especially ROY.
Gotta have more commitment to the run than McCarthy does to get the hardware.

Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:15:17 AM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
A running back who is merely in the top 10 isn't going to get many accolades especially ROY.
Gotta have more commitment to the run than McCarthy does to get the hardware.



If he's the only rookie in the top 20 in any category and happens to be in the top 10 for rushing, even "merely", he most surely will. That's right, I called you SURELY!
DoddPower  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:18:42 AM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
A running back who is merely in the top 10 isn't going to get many accolades especially ROY.
Gotta have more commitment to the run than McCarthy does to get the hardware.



I could personally care less about the rookie of the year award. It really doesn't mean much to me. I, just like every other Packer fan, just want to see the team win, whether it be by passing for 6,000 yards or running for 3,000. Makes no difference to me, just make whatever is attempted work. I'm sure the players care about the award, but I'm sure they'd be wiling to forgo an individual award for a Super Bowl ring.
steveishere  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:23:44 AM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
A running back who is merely in the top 10 isn't going to get many accolades especially ROY.
Gotta have more commitment to the run than McCarthy does to get the hardware.



lol what? Merely in the top 10? What exactly do you expect? Should the Packers be a running team who uses the pass only to suppliment our beast running game? The Packers continually have one of the best offenses in the NFL despite a lack of talented runners. McCarthy has shown that he will run the ball when he has a talented back to work with. If Lacy or Franklin end up in the top 10 in rushing yards they will most certainly be in the race for rookie of the year considering how unimpressive this years QB class looks.
Pack93z  
#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:47:38 AM(UTC)
I will be thrilled if Lacy:


  • Stays Healthy and Available
  • Can carry a healthy share of the carries
  • Between him and Franklin, one develops into a third down back that can effectively pass block
  • Did I mention stays on the field. lol.


Even being in the ROY talk would far outpace my expectations.
sschind  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:02:55 AM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
A running back who is merely in the top 10 isn't going to get many accolades especially ROY.
Gotta have more commitment to the run than McCarthy does to get the hardware.



Right, but this is Ryan Grant. Give a talented back the number of chances that Grant had and you may be talking top 5. Lets face it, Grant was nothing special. Lacy may not be anything special either but I've got a feeling he will be better than Grant.

Still, I know what you mean. To be a top back you have to get the consistent carries and it remains to be seen whether McCarthy can commit to that. I do feel that he got away from it once Grant was lost and we had no legitimate ball carrier. If Lacy can be that guy I don't think McCarthy will have a problem using him.

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