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Offline yooperfan  
#11 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2013 9:09:01 PM(UTC)
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The Packers will never know if they have found their rushing attack until their play caller pulls his head out of his ass and actually uses the rushing attack appropriately.
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Offline Dulak  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:07:33 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: yooperfan Go to Quoted Post
The Packers will never know if they have found their rushing attack until their play caller pulls his head out of his ass and actually uses the rushing attack appropriately.


here here!

remember watching play after play of grant running 'up the middle' (more like running into his own guys or a mob or people) and getting nowhere - and then almost everytime he ran outside it was a nice pickup 5-25 yards. But he would still go for the middle over and over ...

wasn't the packers known for the screens? ...
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 4:19:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dulak Go to Quoted Post
here here!

remember watching play after play of grant running 'up the middle' (more like running into his own guys or a mob or people) and getting nowhere - and then almost everytime he ran outside it was a nice pickup 5-25 yards. But he would still go for the middle over and over ...

wasn't the packers known for the screens? ...


The HB screen is a fundamental of the WCO, not the Run and Shoot. The problem is that those plays tend to run clock, thus draining precious time off the clock which could be used for multiple quick scoring attempts.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 7, 2013 4:41:19 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
This isn't about running the ball, and it isn't about protecting Aaron.

It's about bringing safeties up so that Aaron can continue to throw deep.


Exactly! Defenses compensate when an offense is too one-dimensional. Now, it seems they will not be able to cheat back in coverage as much, opening things up a lot more for Rodgers ..... or if they do stay back, Lacy and/or Franklin should be able to run wild. If I was a D Coordinator, I think I would still aim first to stop Rodgers - the biggest threat. If that happens, we could see some big games by our RBs.

One more thing, I'm not completely sold on the idea that great O Lines create great RBs. It's a two way street. Maybe Alabama's O Line was so good because of the runners hitting those holes, at least in part.

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Offline OlHoss1884  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:05:26 PM(UTC)
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Points above are good but here's how it all comes together: Having RB's who can make guys miss and break tackles, who can pick up blitzes and can do more than just run an occasional draw not only brings the safeties up some times, but it puts the play action and screen back in the offense. Both of these have been missing for 2 years. In addition, a rd and 4 is no longer automatically a pass play. It opens up the entire offense. Good luck now to any team who stays in nickel or dime all game with a steady dose of thunder & lightning back there.

Allowing the offense to run more makes the line better, it allows them to chew up more clock with a lead and it wears down a defense with a steady pounding. This also translates into a fresher defense with fewer 3 and outs. I think just adding Lacy and Jenkins will improve both sides of the ball significantly.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:34:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 Go to Quoted Post
Points above are good but here's how it all comes together: Having RB's who can make guys miss and break tackles, who can pick up blitzes and can do more than just run an occasional draw not only brings the safeties up some times, but it puts the play action and screen back in the offense. Both of these have been missing for 2 years. In addition, a rd and 4 is no longer automatically a pass play. It opens up the entire offense. Good luck now to any team who stays in nickel or dime all game with a steady dose of thunder & lightning back there.

Allowing the offense to run more makes the line better, it allows them to chew up more clock with a lead and it wears down a defense with a steady pounding. This also translates into a fresher defense with fewer 3 and outs. I think just adding Lacy and Jenkins will improve both sides of the ball significantly.


Aaron and Mike don't want to burn clock. They want to score as many times as possible.
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Offline PackerTraxx  
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:09:42 AM(UTC)
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I hate it when 3rd and 1 or 2 is an automatic pass play.
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Offline buckeyepackfan  
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:34:55 PM(UTC)
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Can we as fans at least wait until pre-season games start before we anoint these guys as the next coming of John Brockington and MacCarther Lane.(look them up you younger fans, last great DUO to play in the same backfield together in Green Bay.)

So many things can happen, but it sure looks like The Packers have went all in to jump start their running game.

Pre-season 2013, IMHO, is actually going to be worth watching.

So many young guys trying to make the team, lots of competition.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:29:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
Can we as fans at least wait until pre-season games start before we anoint these guys as the next coming of John Brockington and MacCarther Lane.(look them up you younger fans, last great DUO to play in the same backfield together in Green Bay.)

So many things can happen, but it sure looks like The Packers have went all in to jump start their running game.

Pre-season 2013, IMHO, is actually going to be worth watching.

So many young guys trying to make the team, lots of competition.


Yeah, lets all just shut our computers off for the next 3 months and forget the Packers even exist. I can't understand why fans even bother to talk about rookies at all. I mean it's not like its anything to get excited about...oh wait, maybe it is.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:01:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, lets all just shut our computers off for the next 3 months and forget the Packers even exist. I can't understand why fans even bother to talk about rookies at all. I mean it's not like its anything to get excited about...oh wait, maybe it is.


You don't have to be a SMART ASS!!!!!

Did I say anything about not talking about them?

No.

This happens every year.

The Packers draft guys and immediately the expectations are so high that most of the time, no matter how well they play, the fans that put these expectations on them are disappointed.

DRAFT AND DEVELOPE!!!!!!

Look it up.

RB is one position that rookies seem to be able to step in right away and contribute.

Hopefully The Packer have drafted 2 guys that can do this.

They get their 1st chance to impress starting tomorrow.

The real test will come in pre-season.

The competition is going to be at a high level at several positions this pre-season, this only bodes well for The Packers as a team.



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