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Offline nerdmann  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 8, 2013 9:05:15 PM(UTC)

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I think you have to wait and see how they play in training camp.

If Starks is 100%, I still think he's better than Harris and Green... but if he gets injured again he's good as gone. And if he gets banged up... then it goes to the judges (aka the coaches) and I'm thinking they're gonna say gone unless he clearly looked like one of the best they got.

Green has a lot of physical talent and was getting better at reading his blocks (which he really struggled to do coming out) ... but he got that knee injury and his burst was gone... the question is ... did he get his burst back or not? ... if not he's probably gone. If he got it back I think he could make it but it's going to be an uphill battle for him.

Harris might be little but he stacked at 5'7" 203lbs and he runs low which gives him more power than one would expect. He's small, which means he can get though smaller holes. Great burst and goes north/south which I LOVE.


I think Harris and the two rookies will make it if healthy. Maybe a 4th guy if Starks or Green can get 100% healthy and stay that way... but right now I'm doubting that.


TC is going to be fun to watch.

That's about all we can say with certainty.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:11:25 PM(UTC)

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I think Starks and Green are both in trouble with their injury history and inability to shoulder the load. The knock on Harris is that he can't block at all, but he's gifted enough to find a role for certain plays. Unless Green and Starks are 100% and look good in pre-season, I think both are gone and it will be Harris and the two tookies on the roster.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:19:54 AM(UTC)

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Does this mean you don't like Green or you have mad passionate man love for Kuhn?


I'll assume the first names, as you lazily omitted them, again. I thought we were talking half backs, not full backs. Anyhow.

I do not think Alex Green has what it takes from what I've seen of him. As for John Kuhn, I really have no opinion of him. Do the Packers need a fullback or could a tight end service those duties? If the latter is true, is that tight end on the roster already? John Kuhn 1.8 million + $450,000 for 2013 seems kinda high, although I think he's the punt protector too, right? I think the Packers keep Kuhn for his versatility. He can, at times, get third and short, he's a good dump off receiving threat and I believe he's a good pass protector.

Back to half backs ... currently the Packers have these fellas on the roster.

This is my 'depth' order.
  1. Eddie Lacy
  2. Johnathan Franklin
  3. DuJuan Harris
  4. James Starks
  5. Alex Green



Starks will be cut because of a training camp hamstring or tampon string issue.
Green will be cut because he'll have lost a lot of speed from the ACL. Perhaps he'll be on the PUP if eligible, or IR?

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#19 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:05:49 AM(UTC)

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Harris will be given a chance. (A side note to those who might be confused as to which Harris I am referring to- Since DuJuan's name is in the title of the thread I will assume most reasonable persons already know who I am talking about. I assume they realize I am not talking about Al Harris or Franco Harris. Future references to other rbs on the team may also deal with their last name only. Should you become confused as to who they are simply consult the roster.)

Back to the subject at hand. Even though he will get his chance in TC, I don't see Harris getting a lot of reps on the field but he will make the team. Uncle Teddy will not want to invest a lot of money in a seldom used #3 rb. Green will be kept as he has not really had a chance to show what he can do but may well be 4th on the depth chart. Kuhn and Starks are the bubble players who will be sent packing.

Yes I put Kuhn in this post because he is really a rb who has been playing fb for the past few years.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:16:19 AM(UTC)

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You suggest consulting the roster, yet do not provide a link? Lazy, pure lazy. Anyhow.

I struggle thinking of John Kuhn as half back, full back or tight end exclusively. He's like one of those knives that has many uses. I don't see him being cut/replaced this season.

I'm thinking the running backs will be

HB Eddie Lacy
HB Johnathan Franklin
HB DuJuan Harris
FB John Kuhn
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#21 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:16:20 AM(UTC)

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DuJuan Harris is no forgotten man to me. That dude finishes his runs like few others. I thought he needed more opportunities last season. He may get them this year. Fast, small, powerful. Gets extra yards after the initial contact. I like this kid a lot.

I suspect we'll be seeing Harris and Franklin switching off in the backfield with Lacy being the constant. A lot.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:19:34 AM(UTC)

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DuJuan Harris is no forgotten man to me. That dude finishes his runs like few others. I thought he needed more opportunities last season. He may get them this year. Fast, small, powerful. Gets extra yards after the initial contact. I like this kid a lot.

I suspect we'll be seeing Harris and Franklin switching off in the backfield with Lacy being the constant. A lot.


Yes, just what I was thinking. I also agree, Green will probably be the 4th RB. I'd like to see Kuhn replaced by one of the TEs, but 50/50 about that whether he makes the final roster or not.

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#23 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:57:16 AM(UTC)

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Yes, just what I was thinking. I also agree, Green will probably be the 4th RB. I'd like to see Kuhn replaced by one of the TEs, but 50/50 about that whether he makes the final roster or not.



If one or two of the TEs are good enough to play FB, I wouldn't mind getting rid of the FB and using a TE/FB guy back there and saving the roster spot. But I don't see the Packers doing it...
Mike McCarthy loves FB tricks too much... so I think there will be a full time FB and it will probably be Kuhn.


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#24 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:24:41 PM(UTC)

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Starks will be cut because of a training camp hamstring or tampon string issue.


LOL! Classic.

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If one or two of the TEs are good enough to play FB, I wouldn't mind getting rid of the FB and using a TE/FB guy back there and saving the roster spot. But I don't see the Packers doing it...

Mike McCarthy loves FB tricks too much... so I think there will be a full time FB and it will probably be Kuhn.




Those short yardage plays are going to Lacy from now on. Dude gets to the LoS MUCH faster. And harder.
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#26 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:02:56 PM(UTC)

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If one or two of the TEs are good enough to play FB, I wouldn't mind getting rid of the FB and using a TE/FB guy back there and saving the roster spot. But I don't see the Packers doing it...

Mike McCarthy loves FB tricks too much... so I think there will be a full time FB and it will probably be Kuhn.




They seemed to be moving towards the TEs last year as DJ Williams and Ryan Taylor played a lot of H back and did some of the lead blocking. Kuhn really hasn't been very good at run blocking the last couple of seasons so I wouldn't be surprised to see him gone and them go towards using the H back TEs more.
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