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#41 Posted : Friday, May 17, 2013 11:02:06 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: warhawk Go to Quoted Post
Unfortunately the math doesn't work when it comes to putting a good team together. No team can afford really good 1st thru 3rd round players to fill out a 53 man roster.
Nor can a GM pull off drafting that many low round picks anyhow. Let's say Ted finds a way to draft 4 players in the first three rounds over 5 years.

That's 20 players and no way they are all going to turn out to be quality core type starters. How could Ted ditch the last few rounds of the draft, load up on the first three or four rounds, pay the best players we have to keep them around, AND, stay under the cap?

I would rather draft and develop young players with potential than bring in 3r or 4th year guys that haven't shown enough potential to stick around with the team they were on. Fifty three players have to come from somewhere.




I love how people take what I say and run it as far out on a tangent as possible just to try and prove "their" point.

1. I said you can't trade up and load up with the top picks every single year.
2. I said there has to be some years where they do trade down for more lower picks.
3. I said every team needs players who are acquired in the 6/7 rounds (and also UDFAs) if nothing else than to add depth to a roster.
4. I did say there are players in the lower rounds who are worthy of becoming starters. There are simply fewer and farther between than in the higher rounds.
5. I also said who cares about what the cap is going to be some day 3 or 4 or 5 years from now. Build your winner. Win championships and let 5 years from now take care of itself. If the team wins 3 SB in the next 4 years nearly every single fan would understand it if they had to let some quality players go and rebuild due to cap space issues.

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Also this is all hyperbole. None of this matters one iota. Uncle Ted is going to do what Uncle Ted wants. he isn't going to apologize nor explain himself to anyone.

I also said that I am also only looking at 2 to 3 maybe 4 roster spots in all of this discussion. Yet so many of you feel the need to teach me GM101 when you have never sat in a class on the subject yourself. But I am having fun watching all these posts come up.

I do believe that is why Kevin chose the subject title he did then sat back. He is not feeling well and he is having fun too. You're welcome Zero.
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#42 Posted : Friday, May 17, 2013 4:51:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
I love how people take what I say and run it as far out on a tangent as possible just to try and prove "their" point.

1. I said you can't trade up and load up with the top picks every single year.
2. I said there has to be some years where they do trade down for more lower picks.
3. I said every team needs players who are acquired in the 6/7 rounds (and also UDFAs) if nothing else than to add depth to a roster.
4. I did say there are players in the lower rounds who are worthy of becoming starters. There are simply fewer and farther between than in the higher rounds.
5. I also said who cares about what the cap is going to be some day 3 or 4 or 5 years from now. Build your winner. Win championships and let 5 years from now take care of itself. If the team wins 3 SB in the next 4 years nearly every single fan would understand it if they had to let some quality players go and rebuild due to cap space issues.

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Also this is all hyperbole. None of this matters one iota. Uncle Ted is going to do what Uncle Ted wants. he isn't going to apologize nor explain himself to anyone.

I also said that I am also only looking at 2 to 3 maybe 4 roster spots in all of this discussion. Yet so many of you feel the need to teach me GM101 when you have never sat in a class on the subject yourself. But I am having fun watching all these posts come up.

I do believe that is why Kevin chose the subject title he did then sat back. He is not feeling well and he is having fun too. You're welcome Zero.

Well, you have #1 thru #4 that Ted has done on a regular basis and probably on an exceptional basis when it comes to UDFA's and then you skip to #5 that is a far cry from what got you there.

There's a few holes here by the way. We won the SB in 2010 and after two years had to deal with Arod and Mathews. So if it was as simple as three or four positions and riding it for 5 years it would be a viable plan. Just doesn't fit into what is really going on.

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#43 Posted : Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:40:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
To tie my rant back in to Zero's title- I want a team that wins in the playoffs not one that merely shows up and then goes home a week or two later. I guess some of you are happy with it. I am ok with you liking a form of mediocrity.
I measure success by championships.


In the last 3 years combined only 8 teams have ended their season closer to a championship than GB. That's not any form of mediocrity.
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#44 Posted : Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:46:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
In the last 3 years combined only 8 teams have ended their season closer to a championship than GB. That's not any form of mediocrity.


You can look backwards all you want. I am looking forward. however, looking back GB could have done better.
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#45 Posted : Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:08:29 PM(UTC)
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If you look at the big picture as regards prospects coming out of college...

The differential between a 1st round pick and a seventh round pick is profoundly small.

We as fans get caught up in all the hype during the off-season, but one hell of a lot of this whole deal is quite the crap-shoot, manglement-wise.

(You get to call managers manglers when you get all old and retired, lol)

Topic at hand- We fail due to our trench-play. Period. Ted will have to keep pounding at this subject in the draft if he insists on avoiding free agency and/or not being that good at it, coupled with being LATE in addressing it, especially in light of his draft vs. free agency strategy. At times, it seems rather disorganized/ willy-nilly to me.

I still trust him quite a bit, plus I have no choice... I was born in Wisconsin just enough pre-Lombardi, so I'm stuck with all you whack-fucks. Laughing

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damn skippy I'm an owner. I currently own a full .00001924537805515393 % of the Green Bay Packers.



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#46 Posted : Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:23:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
If you look at the big picture as regards prospects coming out of college...

The differential between a 1st round pick and a seventh round pick is profoundly small.

We as fans get caught up in all the hype during the off-season, but one hell of a lot of this whole deal is quite the crap-shoot, manglement-wise.

(You get to call managers manglers when you get all old, senile, and retired, lol)

Topic at hand- We fail due to our trench-play. Period.


I fixed that for you! And yes, we lose football games at the line of scrimmage. It really is that simple.
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#47 Posted : Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:31:14 PM(UTC)
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..took me a millisecond but I caught it, so I'm that old, am I? lol




Razz worried- a little Woot

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#48 Posted : Monday, October 21, 2013 10:23:51 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
..took me a millisecond but I caught it, so I'm that old, am I? lol


Razz worried- a little Woot


Cheer up! Packers are currently the 3rd seed!

http://espn.go.com/nfl/s...nferenceRank/order/false
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#49 Posted : Monday, October 21, 2013 11:13:22 AM(UTC)
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Cheer up! Packers are currently the 3rd seed!

http://espn.go.com/nfl/s...nferenceRank/order/false


And the Bears just lost Cutler for atleast 4 weeks with a torn vagina Laughing
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Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be :)
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#50 Posted : Monday, October 21, 2013 12:15:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
And the Bears just lost Cutler for atleast 4 weeks with a torn vagina Laughing


Not sure that's good news for the Packers. That's two less turnovers we'll get for two divisional games this year.
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