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Offline Laser Gunns  
#11 Posted : Monday, June 17, 2013 3:06:13 PM(UTC)
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Nooooooooooooo!

I've been a Bish fan since he laid out that Jag in preseason..

rooted for him to start forever!

then only 2 years in... this...


sad face.

Bishop smash!
Offline dfosterf  
#12 Posted : Monday, June 17, 2013 3:20:57 PM(UTC)
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I don't like it, but our defense was awful, so many must pay. They played poorly, as a unit, for several years. Ted invested a great deal (imo) to get a great unit. He failed to get one. Maybe he can fix it in the 2014 draft. [laughing] Maybe our hopes will survive and spring eternal... these are all possibilities...

Maybe I'm right and this model does not work. I don't like getting rid of Bishop. He's the only one I liked out of all those wasted draft picks. Almost incredidible, how bad it has been, at that position...draft-pick-wise...
Offline Dexter_Sinister  
#13 Posted : Monday, June 17, 2013 8:21:53 PM(UTC)
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The pass D was better without him.

Ranked 4th in passer rating allowed last year.
Offline play2win  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:23:12 AM(UTC)
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I'm a big Desmond Bishop fan, but from a pure business standpoint, this makes some sense. They are playing the odds on whether or not he can return healthy and as effective as prior to the injury, and as much as I want the old Bish back, I can see how they arrived at this decision.

The guy knows how to play. Tough loss for GB.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:00:46 AM(UTC)
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"Bishop said in a phone interview that the team never discussed the idea of him taking a pay cut, saying only that they would check back with him down the road if he were released and didn't find work elsewhere. "


I need someone to make sense of this for me. No, we won't offer you a lower deal, but hey if no one else wants you, then we can talk? Is that just an angle to get him on the dirt cheap?
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:13:32 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
"Bishop said in a phone interview that the team never discussed the idea of him taking a pay cut, saying only that they would check back with him down the road if he were released and didn't find work elsewhere. "


I need someone to make sense of this for me. No, we won't offer you a lower deal, but hey if no one else wants you, then we can talk? Is that just an angle to get him on the dirt cheap?


Absolutely. Ted has a strong history of letting his guys test the market to determine their true value. And, he's apparently OK with losing a Des Bishop coming off a career threatening injury should MIN decide again to overpay.
Offline steveishere  
#17 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:47:47 AM(UTC)
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Read some interesting tweets by Zach Kruse from cheeseheadtv.com

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I found an interesting history on ruptured hamstrings in the NFL from a study in the American Journal of Orthopedics

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AJO looked at 10 hamstring ruptures in the NFL from 1990-2008. Nine of 10 returned, but only five of 10 returned to play more than one game.


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Two of the 10 returned and soon after suffered other serious injury to the same leg (Achilles tendon tear, another ruptured hamstring)

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AJO's finding on ruptured hamstring in the NFL: "This injury is a marker for elite-level physical deterioration.
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Offline play2win  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:09:12 AM(UTC)
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Read some interesting tweets by Zach Kruse from cheeseheadtv.com







Wow. Thanks steve! That's a good find. Career ender...
Offline DakotaT  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:07:29 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
"Bishop said in a phone interview that the team never discussed the idea of him taking a pay cut, saying only that they would check back with him down the road if he were released and didn't find work elsewhere. "


I need someone to make sense of this for me. No, we won't offer you a lower deal, but hey if no one else wants you, then we can talk? Is that just an angle to get him on the dirt cheap?


Well, they just saved 3. whatever million in cap space that they can now use to lock up Raji, Burnett, and Shields. Bishop is a plodder run stuffing inside linebacker who lacks the athleticism to cover the new age tight ends in a passing league. They'll check back with him later if he hasn't been picked up by anybody else yet. That means they've done him a favor to catch on with another team, and if he can't do so - the Packers will bring him back to training camp. Now was that so hard?
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Now was that so hard?
I should smack you.

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