Discussion Board
Welcome Guest! You can login or register. Login or Register.
2 Pages<12

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
OlHoss1884  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:43:52 AM(UTC)
For those that missed the link, it said this: since 1990 there have been 10 cases where it was confirmed that a player suffered a ruptured hammy. Of the 10, only 5 players played more than 1 NFL game following the injury. Regardless of where you stand on the debate about his value when healthy, the likelihood that Bishop was going to recover to be fully productive was pretty slim.

It isn't just the salary, but to pay a salary with such a risk makes this an easy move. To be honest, I am glad they let him go early so, if he IS pretty well ready to play, he has some time to find another team. The fact remains, if he re-injurs it or has another problem with the same leg, the Packers would be on the hook for his salary and that is far more likely than his having a quality year.

DoddPower  
#22 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:29:52 PM(UTC)
OlHoss1884 said: Go to Quoted Post
For those that missed the link, it said this: since 1990 there have been 10 cases where it was confirmed that a player suffered a ruptured hammy. Of the 10, only 5 players played more than 1 NFL game following the injury. Regardless of where you stand on the debate about his value when healthy, the likelihood that Bishop was going to recover to be fully productive was pretty slim.

It isn't just the salary, but to pay a salary with such a risk makes this an easy move. To be honest, I am glad they let him go early so, if he IS pretty well ready to play, he has some time to find another team. The fact remains, if he re-injurs it or has another problem with the same leg, the Packers would be on the hook for his salary and that is far more likely than his having a quality year.



Yup. Gotta play the odds. It makes the contract they gave Brad Jones make a lot more sense, as well. Plus, releasing him gives Bishop a chance to get a nice salary with another team of his choice. If he can't find work at a reasonable price, perhaps the Packers give him one more chance. Who knows, but at least he has the opportunity to prove to other teams he's fully recovered.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#23 Posted : Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:58:03 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I should smack you.



[-x , you asked to have it explained to you! I thought I was being a good friend. [grin1]
Pack93z  
#24 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:44:36 AM(UTC)
Personally, I think this is a mistake.. for a defense that lacks fire, you have now shipped out one of the few parts that provide a spark.

Bishop's lateral quickness prior to the injury was marginal.. so I get it from that front and the concerns about offenses continuing to stretch defenses.

But somebody better step up and become the juice for this defense.. maybe the rook Jones will become that guy.. maybe lighting will flash and Jolly flips the switch. Sorry, but we need more fire and Bishop was one of the few to provide it.

Color me not a "fan" of the move.
Zero2Cool  
#25 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:46:40 AM(UTC)
When Desmond Bishop took over for Nick Barnett, I had mentioned the defense just "felt" like it was more tough with the change. The Packers won the Super Bowl that season.

I wonder the role hamstring injury history played in his release because it seems like defense that needs to get "bigger, faster" just got less physical.
DarkaneRules  
#26 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:12:41 AM(UTC)
Desmond Bishop is awesome and yes very physical. But he just overdoes it. I don't see that going away. The Super Bowl was great, but I don't see him learning from his and slowing down. I think he will get injured again unfortunately. It hurts me to say that because I like him as a player, but that is just what I see happening.
wpr  
#27 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:39:01 AM(UTC)
Time will tell if he still has anything left after the injury. it is too bad.
buckeyepackfan  
#28 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:48:28 AM(UTC)
I was surprised at the release of Bishop, according to him, The Packers did not even attempt to negotiate a restructure, that tells me there was a legitimate concern on Bishops recovery status.

I do what I always do, that is list all the lbr's and try to see what Ted & co. are looking at.

Here are the Linebackers currently on the Packers 90 man roster.
I listed them by the year they were drafted or signed.
The Packers will will keep at minimum 8 LBr's, but have kept 9 and I think at 1 point last year there were 10 lbr's on the final 53.
I am betting on 9 for this year.

A.J. Hawk......................................................................2006
Clay Mathews, Robert Francois(FA)...................................2009
Jamari Lattimore(FA)......................................................2011
Nick Perry, Terrel Manning, Dezman Moses(FA)..................2012
Nate Palmer, Sam Barrington,..........................................2013
Jarvis Reed(FA), Donte Savage(FA), Andy Mulumba(FA)......2013

Mathews, Hawk, Jones, and Probably Perry will be the starters.(Base D)

Hawk and Jones both played in all 16 games last year, Hawk started all 16, Jones started the last 10.
They have both proven to be durable,solid players, although not playing up to some on this forums expectations, Ted and Co. know what they can expect from them, with Hawk restructuring and Jones being rewarded for his solid play in 2012 the writing was on the wall for Bishop.

Let's not forget Perry was transitioning from d-lineman to olb in his rookie year and should show that 1st to 2nd year improvement that coaches look for, his injury may slow down that process, but being a 1st rnd pick, he is probably expected to be able to catch up quickly.

Francois and Lattimore have proven in the past they both can be spot starters and contribute on Special Teams.
They are both under contract and I can see why Ted would choose to keep them over Bishop.

That leaves 3 spots left to fill Manning and Moses came in the same draft class as Perry, I see Ted & Co. holding on to both, hoping they also will make that 1st to 2nd year improvement. Both are still working under rookie contract and will also be Special teams players.

Palmer, Barrington, Mulumba, Reed, and Savage will fight it out for the final spot, with probably 2 of the 4 left going to the practice squad.

There really isn't enough information on any of these guys to make that decision until they put on the pads and prove they can play.

Whichever draftees and/or UDFA lbr's make the final 53 and PS. I hope they get a chance to develop and not have to be thrown into the starting lineups because of injury.



Rss Feed
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages<12
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Fan Shout
beast (2h) : Packers once again facing some former Packers this season, OLVan Roten, DE Peppers and CB Gunter
beast (6h) : Darn, and I was already worried about Spriggs possibly vs Peppers
Zero2Cool (6h) : Jason Spriggs added to the injury report
Zero2Cool (7h) : whoa
beast (8h) : Packers are the only team to have less only 1 top 20 draft pick in the last decade... all other teams had more.
Zero2Cool (12h) : McCarthy's last two conferences ... much more jovial than last two months, huge difference.
Zero2Cool (12h) : If you picked Home for every NFL game, you'd have 115 correct picks. 55% success
Zero2Cool (13h) : Cincinnati Bengals co-founder Pete Brown dies
Zero2Cool (13-Dec) : Rodgers says he doesn't expect to adjust way he plays: "I wouldn’t be playing if I didn’t feel confident playing the way that I played my en
Zero2Cool (13-Dec) : Panthers Trai Turner enters concussion protocol
Zero2Cool (13-Dec) : Great stat from Mike Zimmer just now at his presser. No team has beaten three above .500 teams on the road in a row since 1967.
Zero2Cool (13-Dec) : Brett Hundley or Blake Bortles if you're the Jaguars?
Zero2Cool (13-Dec) : @ESPNStatsInfo Last season, Aaron Rodgers threw 13 TD and 0 Int while going 5-0 in Dec./Jan. regular season games
FLORIDA PACKER88 (13-Dec) : 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12
buckeyepackfan (13-Dec) : THAT BAAAAAAAAD MAN IS BACK!!!!!
cheeseheads123 (13-Dec) : 12 is back baby lets go!!!
Zero2Cool (12-Dec) : WR Davante Adams nominated for Clutch Performer of the Week
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : lol coach with jokes MM: "If i don't know tomorrow, they'll be putting Pat McKenzie on IR."
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : Rod of Airs here to fook you up!
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : Packers gonna play coy until Saturday night and go SURPRISE BITCHES
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : Mike McCarthy on Rodgers timetable: "This is in the hands of the experts. ... Let's just wait until the experts make their decision."
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : You can freaking localize ads too to region. This is NOT hard. Lazy asses.
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : I think so too, but it's time they get with it. You can have ads in streaming too.
Nonstopdrivel (11-Dec) : You've been able to stream postseason games for a few years now, I think.
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : last 4 games played, Packers have worst pass efficency, Browns 2nd worst
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : On @oath @YahooSports and @NFL Apps
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : Good news for NFL fans: starting with this season’s playoffs you can stream games on your phone. All phones. All carriers. For free. On
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : Verizon to pay NFL $500 million a year to stream games
beast (11-Dec) : Packers can't catch Eagles so it doesn't directly effect our playoff chances.
Nonstopdrivel (11-Dec) : yoffs?
Nonstopdrivel (11-Dec) : So . . . could in theory be a severe sprain. Which might still sideline him for the rest of the season, but perhaps he'd be back for the pla
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : That's regarding Carson Wentz
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : @AlbertBreer Doctors determined with manual test there was damage to ACL, extent unknown until MRI tomorrow.
Zero2Cool (11-Dec) : Read reports that's what is feared and yes, you're right, usually if that's the fear = done
Nonstopdrivel (11-Dec) : MRI would me mostly a formality. He walked off on his own power, so possibly just a sprain? But I doubt it.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2017 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 7:30 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 8 @ 3:25 PM
at Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 15 @ 12:00 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Monday, Nov 6 @ 7:30 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
RAVENS
Sunday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
at Steelers
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 10 @ 12:00 PM
at Browns
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Saturday, Dec 23 @ 7:30 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions
Think About It
Think About It
Recent Topics
33m / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

42m / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

14-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

13-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

13-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

13-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

13-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

13-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

Headlines