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Offline Dexter_Sinister  
#11 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:49:26 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Lance Easley has stood by the call, as quoted here - link.

And 138 lost their job, but 138 got their job back.

Edit, "Replacement referee Wayne Elliott, who initially defended the call of a touchdown by Seahawks receiver Golden Tate, reluctantly admitted during an interview with Cris Collinsworth and James Brown on this week’s Inside the NFL that the call “probably” should have been an interception."


Easley was the side judge. It was his job to signal the call.

Elliot's job was to make the official ruling. Which he never actually did. They buzzed him for a review immediately and he stuck his head in the box.

When he came out, he said the call was upheld.

But since he never made any official ruling, the side judge's signal of a TD was upheld as an actual ruling.

Elliot, who is responsible for the ruling of his crew and for the ruling of the review, said he "learned the rule by screwing up the rule." in regards to the call being complete or intercepted. He believes it was a catch.
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Dexter_Sinister said: Go to Quoted Post
Easley was the side judge. It was his job to signal the call.

Elliot's job was to make the official ruling. Which he never actually did. They buzzed him for a review immediately and he stuck his head in the box.

When he came out, he said the call was upheld.

But since he never made any official ruling, the side judge's signal of a TD was upheld as an actual ruling.

Elliot, who is responsible for the ruling of his crew and for the ruling of the review, said he "learned the rule by screwing up the rule." in regards to the call being complete or intercepted. He believes it was a catch.


That quote wasn't in reference to the Fail Mary play, unless I misunderstood the full context of the quote of what you have omitted to cite.

Lance Easley is the one who signaled Touchdown and I haven't heard him back off that at all. The other official signaled incomplete or something and then I think he changed to what Easley signaled. Then the two officials informed the Referee of what happened.

I'm confused here. If the referee went under the hood, why was it reviewed upstairs by the regular replay review people who confirmed the ruling on the field?
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That quote wasn't in reference to the Fail Mary play, unless I misunderstood the full context of the quote of what you have omitted to cite.

Lance Easley is the one who signaled Touchdown and I haven't heard him back off that at all. The other official signaled incomplete or something and then I think he changed to what Easley signaled. Then the two officials informed the Referee of what happened.

I'm confused here. If the referee went under the hood, why was it reviewed upstairs by the regular replay review people who confirmed the ruling on the field?


The replay officials signal the ref to review it.

The ref does the actual review.

It is the Refs final responsibility to make any call. The side judge, back judge or umpire's job is to signal the play. The Ref makes the ruling. He will also over rule or confirm based on the replay.

In college, the replay official tells the Ref what to rule. Not so in the NFL.

It isn't Easley's call to make. He signaled TD. But he doesn't rule it a TD. That is Elliotts job.

The guy responsible for the call and the review said the wrong call was made.

Edit. Quote from the article on NFL.com. Pressed about how he now viewed the play, Elliott (who was not in the end zone and did not make the initial call) momentarily hedged before admitting, "I'd probably call interception.

"I learned a rule by screwing up the rule."
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I guess you're not gonna cite what you're saying. I'm gonna have to stick with what I have heard and read.

Packers shouldn't have even been in that position to lose the game. That first half was horrendous! And it seemed like Sam Shields must have slept with one of the officials daughters or something cuz they had it out for him lol
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#15 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:59:38 PM(UTC)
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ESPN NFCN blog

Here is a better article with video.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:17:04 PM(UTC)
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There was also a pick that was called back by a bogus roughing call. When asked about it in the post game, all Wilson could do was laugh. It would have given the ball back to the Packers on the Seattle 26 with 8:44 left. With a chance to go up by at least 8 or even 12.

There was a OPI that was called on Shields that bailed the Seahawks out of 2nd and 25.

A free 47 yards and taking away a turnover screwed up the field position.

And for the WE NEED TO CHOOSE TO RUN MORE crowd, the last drive the Packers had was 3 runs and a punt.

Benson for -5 and a fumble recovered by Saturday, Benson for 0, Kuhn for 2.

Running effectively is a lot more important than running more often even though you don't have any decent RBs. Benson did not count as a decent RB.
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Golden Tate did not have CONTROL of the ball.

He had a hand touching the ball, but did not CONTROL the ball during that play. Ever.

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#18 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:34:24 PM(UTC)
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And for the WE NEED TO CHOOSE TO RUN MORE crowd, the last drive the Packers had was 3 runs and a punt.


And for the Madden Football crowd, we had 27 passing plays and only 3 running plays in the entire first half, scoring all of 0 points.
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#19 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2013 4:10:12 AM(UTC)
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It all starts with simultaneous possession, and since Jennings intercepted the ball FIRST, the discussion should end there. No simultaneous possession, according to the rule...
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Not to mention Tate's BLATANT push off on the play. Watch Shields go to the ground before the ball gets there.

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