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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2013 7:49:12 AM(UTC)
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Jerel Worthy was starting to really come into his own towards the end of the season and then was lost in the Vikings game. Worthy had more snaps at DE on passing downs than any of the other DE on the Packers roster and netted 3 sacks. In the excuse game, I can't help wonder what importance he would have been to the Packers in the playoffs?
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Who knows. A stronger player on the line may have prevented a couple of those runs by kaepernick.
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I've maintained that Jerel Worthy can be an effective NFL player. I'm not worried about him not lighting it up his rookie season. That's fairly typical, and I kind of expected it with him. With that being said, he was still decent at times, even while learning a completely new scheme and being played out of position, at times.

He's not an elite talent. Let's not kid ourselves. However, he had the potential to be a very effective penetrating pass rusher. He's quick, stout, and somewhat of a technician. He would likely be even better in a 4-3 defense, as he would have more opportunities. The main thing I worry about with Jerel Worthy is his opportunities, even if he can return 100% healthy (which probably won't be this upcoming season). The Packers now have a number of pass rushing only (at least close to only) defensive linemen, such as Mike Neal, Jerel Worthy, Mike Daniels, sometimes BJ Raji, and perhaps another will surface. This doesn't leave many opportunities for basically two spots in the nickle and dime packages. One can also add Datone Jones in that mix, as well. It's crowded, to say the least, and it's going to be somewhat difficult to get reps. I don't think Worthy at defensive end is the greatest idea most of the time, especially with Datone healthy. Perhaps he could work himself into that role, but I'm not really expecting it. If he could just focus on getting healthy and becoming an effective pass rusher, he'll have a spot on a team for several years to come.

My guess is if he doesn't stay with the Packers, he'll find his way to a 4-3 team and be a decent defensive tackle.
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I think long term Worthy is very important to the Packers.. in terms of last season and against the Niners.. I would say he would have helped but not solved the issue.

The Packers edges of the defense were so poor in that game, that he would have had to disrupt the plays in the backfield with monumental portions to protect the soft edges.

I think the Packers are changing their MO on defense, I think we are going to see them put a paramount on linebacker speed across the board and going to try and make sure the edge backers understand how to set the edge. Walden was inconsistent at doing it, often jumping the inside too quickly. Even Matthews needs to improve at times. Perry should help, but we will see how he truly adapts to coverage in order to stay on the field.

I think Bishop was the first piece to go in that regard...

Back to Worthy... I think the Packers picked the right guy anchor that line for the next 5 + years in Worthy.. he reminds me of a younger Jolly in terms of a disrupter.. hopefully he will return in the same mold.
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Worthy wouldn't have fixed jack in that playoff game vs SF last year. The Packers got bulldozed at times with him on the field. Their defensive problems go deeper than not having him.
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Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
I think long term Worthy is very important to the Packers.. in terms of last season and against the Niners.. I would say he would have helped but not solved the issue.

The Packers edges of the defense were so poor in that game, that he would have had to disrupt the plays in the backfield with monumental portions to protect the soft edges.

I think the Packers are changing their MO on defense, I think we are going to see them put a paramount on linebacker speed across the board and going to try and make sure the edge backers understand how to set the edge. Walden was inconsistent at doing it, often jumping the inside too quickly. Even Matthews needs to improve at times. Perry should help, but we will see how he truly adapts to coverage in order to stay on the field.

I think Bishop was the first piece to go in that regard...

Back to Worthy... I think the Packers picked the right guy anchor that line for the next 5 + years in Worthy.. he reminds me of a younger Jolly in terms of a disrupter.. hopefully he will return in the same mold.


I just don't see Jerel Worthy being any kind of anchor on defense, such as Jolly was, and others have been. He's a pass-rushing defensive tackle, and that's about it. He can be pushed around easily at times, and has always appeared inconsistent. He's going to have to get MUCH stronger and disciplined if he wants to be any kind of main-stay in a 3-4 defense.

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I just don't see Jerel Worthy being any kind of anchor on defense, such as Jolly was, and others have been. He's a pass-rushing defensive tackle, and that's about it. He can be pushed around easily at times, and has always appeared inconsistent. He's going to have to get MUCH stronger and disciplined if he wants to be any kind of main-stay in a 3-4 defense.



I guess I relate that to what I seen of him in college yearly.. the guy isn't a All Pro caliber player snap in and out, but I have seen him at times dominate a Wisconsin offensive line in which 4 of the 5 (RT) are now playing in the NFL. Yes the knock is consistency.. but not a lack of talent. My opinion anyway.
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Jolly's uniqueness was the instinct to knock down passes - the original J.J. Swat. Other than that, he was nothing special. Worthy IMO hasn't shown anything special either so far, but he still could. He was impressive in college. I hope he gets to show something one way or the other this season because I think he is a large part of the decision to keep or let go Raji. I'd rather see the Packers have a less bulky but maybe stronger D-Line - Pickett and Raji gone in '14 with some combination of Worthy, Neal, Daniel in the lineup with Datone Jones.
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Worthy did not impress me last year.

With a late season ACL his prospects for this year are not great either.
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Last year the Rams played well, probably better than most, against her 49ers and Seahawks. I think part of this was that their defensive front got better penetration to mess things up in the backfield (Gore is not a make you miss guy and James is not a tackle breaker) and because their secondary sucked they played a lot of zone. Baltimore played much the same way.

The Packers weren't penetrating much to cause disruption, and they played man all game (backs to the line). I expect the game plan to be somewhat different this year against such teams and with a healthier, deeper line the play up front to be more effective.

Worthy is going to miss the first part of the season recovering from his injury so we won't see what effect he has on SF this year, either, unless we meet them in the playoffs.

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