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Offline dhpackr  
#31 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 1:13:44 PM(UTC)

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I hate using 'spies'. It takes one of your players out of the defense and creates holes, just to watch over the QB in case he runs. I would rather they had switched up to more zone defenses, with the short zone man on the outside having responsibility to contain the run. Playing man-to-man, the defenders too often had their backs to the QB.


IMO, Kaepernick was running through some passing lanes. A zone Defense would have just allowed him to run through the same lanes and would have been ineffective.

You need a pass rush from the front four, contain the qb at the line of scrimmage, and bring a blitzer from s or cb. If you cannot generate a pass rush, you need a spy for when he starts to scramble.

If you watch the highlights, there are plays where he is just a running back, he has no intention of passing the ball.

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#32 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 1:36:05 PM(UTC)

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dhpackr said: Go to Quoted Post
IMO, Kaepernick was running through some passing lanes. A zone Defense would have just allowed him to run through the same lanes and would have been ineffective.

You need a pass rush from the front four, contain the qb at the line of scrimmage, and bring a blitzer from s or cb. If you cannot generate a pass rush, you need a spy for when he starts to scramble.

If you watch the highlights, there are plays where he is just a running back, he has no intention of passing the ball.



I still think that whole situation was due largely to Walden's inability to contain.
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Offline DoddPower  
#33 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 1:49:12 PM(UTC)

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I still think that whole situation was due largely to Walden's inability to contain.


There was certainly much more blame to go around than just Walden, but obviously that was a big part of it. There's no way Walden gets all the blame for that complete defensive debacle, though. It goes from top to bottom, to coaches to players.
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#34 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2013 2:20:36 PM(UTC)

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Agreed with Nerd and Dodd. Walden was huge in NOT staying gap accountable but other players made mistakes too. The return fumble was a game changing moment.
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#35 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:51:44 AM(UTC)

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Fuck Colon Kaeperdick
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#36 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:02:41 PM(UTC)

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Jason Wilde said:
GREEN BAY — Clay Matthews had read the quote, and the Green Bay Packers star outside linebacker knew that the truth hurt.

After all, it's not as if what San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick had told theMMQB.com's Peter King was an inaccurate depiction of just what was happening with the Packers defense while the 49ers were rolling up 579 yards — and Kaepernick was running for a quarterback-record 181 — in the Packers' 45-31 NFC Divisional Playoff loss last January.

"It got to a point," Kaepernick told King, "where we could hear [the Packers' defenders] arguing while we were in our huddle. 'You're supposed to do this,' or 'You have to do this, then the other.' At that point, our offense was like, It's over. As soon as you start turning on your teammates, you're not going to be productive. You know you have them in the palm of your hands."

For his part, Matthews said Saturday that he won't be drawing any motivation from Kaepernick's words when the teams meet again in the Sept. 8 regular-season opener at San Francisco. But Matthews also said that the defense's horrible performance, while not a focus in training camp, is still a reminder of how much better they must play next time.

"I saw that (quote). They obviously played well that game, they beat us. More power to them," Matthews said after the second practice of camp Saturday. "But we've talked enough about that game. Fortunately, we'll get another shot at them Week 1 and hopefully it's the other way around."

Burned repeatedly by the read option, the Packers defensive coaches brushed up on how to defend the scheme by visiting Texas A&M and defensive coordinator Dom Capers spending time with University of Wisconsin defensive coordinator Dave Aranda. There's also been practice time devoted to defending it, and unlike last year's season opener, when Alex Smith was the 49ers quarterback in a victory over the Packers at Lambeau Field, Matthews knows that the scheme will be used against his defense again.

"There's just been a lot more emphasis on stopping their type of play, which is keeping plays alive, scrambling, read-option, take plays," Matthews said. "I know we put a lot more emphasis on that. It's a lot more stress on the outside pass-rushers like myself as far as keeping contained and not just constantly rushing the passer as we're accustomed to doing. It's a renewed focus on how they play the game, how those mobile quarterbacks play the game.

"It's going to be a good test. We start out with them Week 1, just like last year. We came up short in Week 1 as well, but we played a very good team. It's a good starting point to the season. I'm hoping we can come up with a big win. I know we're kind of looking ahead, but that would be a big win."
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