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Offline play2win  
#11 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 5:44:16 AM(UTC)
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This is where Johnny Jolly makes this team. Neal may have gotten too much mass for his bone structure, etc., hence, the shift to OLB. I get it.

Datone & Boyd will flourish in this new D. Neal will be playing more situationally. That is my guess. Should be interesting. If he can become more of a rover with size in this 3-4, like James Harrison was in his prime, maybe we have something here with Mike Neal.

The increased weight clearly was adversely effecting his availability, with all those minor injuries.
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#12 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 7:15:38 AM(UTC)
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Either way, the few players I named are all 3-4 DE's, and there are many more I could have named that are very close to the exact size of Datone. Also, as I said, Datone has the frame to easily add more weight, if need be. But it's not necessary. He's size is a non-factor. Most 3-4 DE's aren't going to be Calais Cambell's, although I certainly wouldn't mind one of them on the Packers.


According to the journal sentinel jones came to camp 10+ lbs heavier than his pro day weight

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Yep Jones weighed in at 295 for TC. The guy looks prototypical out there in pictures especially for starting out in sub-packages. He's the real deal guys.
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#14 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 11:33:59 AM(UTC)
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Yep Jones weighed in at 295 for TC. The guy looks prototypical out there in pictures especially for starting out in sub-packages. He's the real deal guys.


Personally, the opening days of camp are about the most overrated portion of the year.. even more so than OTA's. I am glad he is looking the part to start... but I want to see week 3 and the preseason.. then into the regular season.

Then, I will echo the sentiment that he looks like the real deal.. then he has to carry that over for a season or two.

Just like we are hearing little out of Lacy.. but it will not matter once the hitting starts.. it will be then where the reports, if silent, will become alarming.

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Personally, the opening days of camp are about the most overrated portion of the year.. even more so than OTA's. I am glad he is looking the part to start... but I want to see week 3 and the preseason.. then into the regular season.

Then, I will echo the sentiment that he looks like the real deal.. then he has to carry that over for a season or two.

Just like we are hearing little out of Lacy.. but it will not matter once the hitting starts.. it will be then where the reports, if silent, will become alarming.



Better they at least look the part at some point as opposed to not looking the part from the beginning.
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I agree. I am for tweeners to an extent if they have something special but honestly if you want to be a DE in a 3-4 defense, you are going to want to be closing in on 300 pounds.
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I agree. I am for tweeners to an extent if they have something special but honestly if you want to be a DE in a 3-4 defense, you are going to want to be closing in on 300 pounds.


I wonder if they might be look at Neal as a pass rush specialist type... and move him around at both DE and OLB.

Also Justin Smith and Brett Keisel are listed at 285, which is the same thing Neal is listed at (though he has admitted to be lighter than that), I don't know if the other guys might also be lighter than that.
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I wonder if they might be look at Neal as a pass rush specialist type... and move him around at both DE and OLB.

Also Justin Smith and Brett Keisel are listed at 285, which is the same thing Neal is listed at (though he has admitted to be lighter than that), I don't know if the other guys might also be lighter than that.


They're obviously going to be blitzing Neal far more than they're going to be dropping him into coverage, that's for sure.

IF he is able to get himself onto the field.
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