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Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:40:01 PM(UTC)
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[img_r]http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=U0&Date=20080826&Category=PKR01&ArtNo=80826172&Ref=AR&Profile=1058&MaxW=150&Border=0[/img_r]Asked point blank whether undrafted rookie Kregg Lumpkin has a legitimate shot at making the Green Bay Packers final roster, running backs coach Edgar Bennett immediately broke into a knowing nod and replied with a simple but emphatic yes.

Lumpkin, the high-school phenom whose career at Georgia short-circuited because of injuries and a quality depth chart, is one of three undrafted rookies in true position to win a spot on the Packers 53-man regular-season roster.

The others are long snapper J.J. Jansen, who is a near lock, and tight end Joey Haynos, who has an outside shot to survive final cuts, which are due at 3 p.m. Saturday.

Lumpkins chances probably fall in between those of Jansen and Haynos. Hes improved throughout camp and is in the running for one or perhaps two final roster spots at halfback, along with Vernand Morency and Noah Herron. All will get a chance to make a final impression on the coaching and scouting staffs in the Packers preseason finale against Tennessee on Thursday night at Lambeau Field.

The top two halfback spots belong to Ryan Grant and Brandon Jackson, so Lumpkins fate in part will depend on whether the Packers keep three halfbacks or four. Bennett will argue hard for four, but extra depth at other positions also will be a factor in that decision. Even if the Packers keep only three halfbacks, Lumpkin has a shot, and is a sure bet for the practice squad if he doesnt make the team.

Hes a young man, a rookie, but the game is not too big for him, Bennett said. I dont see him in certain situations looking like a deer in the headlights. That does not happen with this kid. This kid just jumps in there and plays football.

Lumpkin moved into the running with strong performances in all three exhibition games, albeit against backup defenders. Hes the Packers leading rusher with 28 carries for 126 yards, both team highs, in the preseason.

He averaged 5.1 yards a carry against both Cincinnati and San Francisco in the first two weeks, and though that dropped to 3.5 yards a carry against Denver last week, he still showed improvement. His numbers suffered in part because two of his 11 carries came from the Broncos 1, and his final rush was a 1-yard gain when the Packers were running out the clock with their final three plays. His best run probably was an 8-yarder on second-and-goal from the 9 that set up his 1-yard touchdown plunge two plays later.

The Packers signed the 228-pound Lumpkin despite his relatively thin college resume: He rushed for only 44 yards in six games as a senior at Georgia, and his career high was a relatively light 798 yards as a junior. Those are hardly the numbers of big-time college halfbacks who make it in the NFL.

However, the Packers scouting staff saw a player who coming out of a high school was a top national recruit his final college choices were Georgia, Miami and Texas with NFL size and athletic ability.

Lumpkin, 24, has serious competition for a roster spot, though.

The 28-year-old Morency (5-10, 218) looks like hes regained much of his speed and explosiveness after a patellar tendon injury slowed him all last season. Hes especially strong at blitz pickup in the third-down passing game.

The 26-year-old Herron (5-11, 225) is sound and aware, though he lacks the pure running talent of the other two.

But if Lumpkin runs well and is assignment-sure this week, he has a chance to push the two veterans off the team if the Packers keep three halfbacks, and will have an excellent shot if they keep four.

Kind of intriguing, Joe Philbin, the Packers offensive coordinator, said of Lumpkin. Looks like he has some natural running ability. Pretty good looking guy in pads. Hes been a pretty good fit for this offense, a couple plays where he hit downhill pretty well we thought. Kinda like him.

Lumpkin got lost on Georgias roster last year when a knee injury limited him to six games. Once he returned, he couldnt get back on the field because a freshman phenom, Knowshon Moreno, and a fellow senior, Thomas Brown, played well in his absence. Moreno, who rushed for 1,334 yards and averaged 5.4 yards a carry, is a Heisman Trophy candidate this year. Brown, who ran for 779 yards, was a sixth-round draft pick by Atlanta last April.

The Packers, though, liked Lumpkins chances from the moment they signed him 30 minutes after the draft ended. Though hes not a home-run hitter at halfback, hes well suited for the Packers zone-run scheme. Georgia also ran a zone system that emphasized aiming points and one-cut reads, so his adjustment to the Packers run game was relatively easy.

In some ways, Lumpkin resembles former Packers halfback DeShawn Wynn, the former high-school phenom who had a similarly disappointing career in college at Florida.

The Packers took a flier on Wynns size (238 pounds) and nimble feet by using a seventh-round pick on him in 2007. However, they cut him earlier this week because he couldnt stay healthy or demonstrate the type of professional mentality it takes to succeed in the NFL.

Lumpkin, on the other hand, has demonstrated toughness and a strong desire to succeed from the start.

The No. 1 thing I like about him is his attitude, Bennett said. He plays with a chip on his shoulder. Hes physical, he runs behind his pads. He has burst, quick feet. The kids coming along. You think about Day 1 (of organized team activities) to where hes at now, he continues to get better. When you think about going from the classroom to the practice field to the game field, one thing that stays consistent, he continues to improve. He has to stay on that course, obviously.
MassPackersFan  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:10:18 PM(UTC)
Lumpkin has been my most pleasant surprise of the rookie class so far. I really think he deserves a spot on the team. It'll be a hard choice, but I think Herron and/or Morency may have to go.
zombieslayer  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:24:25 PM(UTC)
OK, I'll ask this again because Zero was the only person to answer this before.

Do we keep an extra HB, 7 LBs, or 6 WRs? You can only have one answer.

I like Lumpkin, but I'm right now thinking I want 7 LBs and put the extra HB and the 6th WR on the PS.
walleye  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:26:02 PM(UTC)
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OK, I'll ask this again because Zero was the only person to answer this before.

Do we keep an extra HB, 7 LBs, or 6 WRs? You can only have one answer.

I like Lumpkin, but I'm right now thinking I want 7 LBs and put the extra HB and the 6th WR on the PS.

Yes i agree with you! 7LB's
Cheesey  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:48:28 PM(UTC)
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OK, I'll ask this again because Zero was the only person to answer this before.

Do we keep an extra HB, 7 LBs, or 6 WRs? You can only have one answer.

I like Lumpkin, but I'm right now thinking I want 7 LBs and put the extra HB and the 6th WR on the PS.

Yes i agree with you! 7lbs

LOLOL!!! First when i read your reply, i was like "Seven pounds????"
Geez.....i need a drink!!! :thumbright:
walleye  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:54:40 PM(UTC)
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OK, I'll ask this again because Zero was the only person to answer this before.

Do we keep an extra HB, 7 LBs, or 6 WRs? You can only have one answer.

I like Lumpkin, but I'm right now thinking I want 7 LBs and put the extra HB and the 6th WR on the PS.

Yes i agree with you! 7lbs

LOLOL!!! First when i read your reply, i was like "Seven pounds????"
Geez.....i need a drink!!! :thumbright:

:smoker: :drunken: I need more than a drink right know give me the fricken bottle! :drunken:
PackOne  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:34:08 PM(UTC)
I don't think Lumpkin will make the team. I am starting to think he may turn into the pick we gave away for Ryan Grant last year.

That would be a nice trick.
Packers_Finland  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:39:36 PM(UTC)
I say we keep 4 RBs, cutting Morency.
shanks2122  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:28:26 PM(UTC)
7 lbs because of speacial team play (better tackling)
but i wanna see lumpkin win the third running back slot
MassPackersFan  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:30:32 PM(UTC)
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OK, I'll ask this again because Zero was the only person to answer this before.

Do we keep an extra HB, 7 LBs, or 6 WRs? You can only have one answer.

I like Lumpkin, but I'm right now thinking I want 7 LBs and put the extra HB and the 6th WR on the PS.


If it comes down to those three position groups, I'd go with 7 LB'rs. Obviously Hawk, Barnett, and Poppinga are in, you gotta keep Chillar, and I do NOT want to let go of Bishop, Hodge, or White.

WR's, the must keeps are Driver, Jennings, Jones, Martin, and Nelson. Practice squad someone else (I'm leaning towards Taj Smith, honestly) in case of injuries.

But who do you keep as the HB's? Grant and Jackson are in, so you're saying one more? That's extremely tough. You'd hope to keep Herron and hide Lumpkin on the practice squad, leaving Morency the odd man out. Do we get an opportunity to match an offer if someone tries to take Lumpkin, in that situation?
twebdonny  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:44:00 PM(UTC)
I also agree with cutting Morency. He only shows short flashes
of above average running skills and is frequently injured. Give
the Lumpster a shot, I don't think he will disappoint.


DJ

Lumpster Vids
strobl2  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:45:43 PM(UTC)
I say we cut morency and keep Lumpkin and four running backs. We have a solid linebacker group as it is and I don't think if we keep seven of them it will really help our team, even though it will be a tough decision to see who we keep. Also lets face it Grant, even though I love him as a player, has only played half a season. I would rather have 4 RBs just for "what if" reasons than have a LB that I don't think we need.
DGB454  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:48:58 PM(UTC)
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I also agree with cutting Morency. He only shows short flashes
of above average running skills and is frequently injured. Give
the Lumpster a shot, I don't think he will disappoint.


DJ

Lumpster Vids


lol , Poor old lady.
twebdonny  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:37:33 PM(UTC)
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I also agree with cutting Morency. He only shows short flashes
of above average running skills and is frequently injured. Give
the Lumpster a shot, I don't think he will disappoint.


DJ

Lumpster Vids


lol , Poor old lady.


yea, LOL I dunno why it brinks up that video as well.
MassPackersFan  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:55:10 PM(UTC)
Backup linebackers are nice to have for special teams too.
earthquake  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:57:28 PM(UTC)
I really want to see Blumpkin make the team. I see them keeping 4 at this point, they have 5 decent backs and its going to very hard to trim that to 3.

While i like all 7 LB's, i think you could pick the best 2 from hodge, white and bishop. Barnett + hawk+ pop + chillar + any 2 of those 3 will be a great group and provide plenty of depth.

Now if they only keep 3 RB's and someone ends up getting hurt, they are very limited all of a sudden at RB. Idealy you want grant as your workhorse, jackson as the change up, #3 guy for third downs, and then a spare guy who can step into either the #2 or # spot if someone happens to go down. With only 3 in there you're down to 2 with an injury, and that really isnt enough imo.
Tiger  
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:21:01 PM(UTC)
Possibly Mike McCarthy will decide to keep Kuhn or Hall only? I have manlove for both of these guys and i really want them to be kept. Haynos is an interesting development, i really didnt see Humphrey sticking around but if what they are saying about Haynos is true then Mike McCarthy maybe will take 4 TE's - Lee, Humphrey, Haynos and Finley. In previous years Mike McCarthy only took 2 TE's and 1 FB on the roster, he'll hardly take 4 and 2 this year will he? Interesting cuts will have to be made im afraid. When you have a great team even your backups are good!
zombieslayer  
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:01:39 PM(UTC)
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I really want to see Blumpkin make the team. I see them keeping 4 at this point, they have 5 decent backs and its going to very hard to trim that to 3.

While i like all 7 LB's, i think you could pick the best 2 from hodge, white and bishop. Barnett + hawk+ pop + chillar + any 2 of those 3 will be a great group and provide plenty of depth.

Now if they only keep 3 RB's and someone ends up getting hurt, they are very limited all of a sudden at RB. Idealy you want grant as your workhorse, jackson as the change up, #3 guy for third downs, and then a spare guy who can step into either the #2 or # spot if someone happens to go down. With only 3 in there you're down to 2 with an injury, and that really isnt enough imo.


Reason for the 7 LBs - Special Teams. Remember how bad we were in '06 for STs? '07, it went from a severe weakness to a strength. Even won us our opening game.

We can keep Lumpkin on the PS and hope he doesn't get snatched. If there's an injury to any of our RBs, he's on the team. Not sure what # the extra RB was. Someone help me out there. Did they mean the extra RB is #4 or #5? I was assuming 4 would make the team and 5 would be the decision (between a 6th WR, a 5th HB, or a 7th LB). So if I'm correct, it goes Grant, Jackson, Herron, and Mo are on the team and we have to decide to have a 5th HB, a 6th WR, or a 7th LB.
zombieslayer  
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:03:33 PM(UTC)
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Possibly Mike McCarthy will decide to keep Kuhn or Hall only? I have manlove for both of these guys and i really want them to be kept. Haynos is an interesting development, i really didnt see Humphrey sticking around but if what they are saying about Haynos is true then Mike McCarthy maybe will take 4 TE's - Lee, Humphrey, Haynos and Finley. In previous years Mike McCarthy only took 2 TE's and 1 FB on the roster, he'll hardly take 4 and 2 this year will he? Interesting cuts will have to be made im afraid. When you have a great team even your backups are good!

Mike McCarthy liked the 2 FB sets, so I think we keep Kuhn and Hall and 2 TEs.
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