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Offline yooperfan  
#21 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2013 8:51:47 PM(UTC)
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I think it's a damn shame that Merriweather won't be suspended.
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I think it's a damn shame that Merriweather won't be suspended.


Much as I hate Packers taking head shots, I would want to see evidence of intent to injure before suspending somebody. It's INSTINCTIVE to hit that way; It could easily be a Packer doing it at some point - just doing what seems natural in the heat of battle where you react more than you think about it.

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#23 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2013 9:32:54 PM(UTC)
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What a farce. Hasn't had a similar hit since 2010? Absolute bollocks. He has two such hits in the same game. He received a $20K fine in 2011 for a helmet-to-helmet hit. He had two fines in 2010.

Oh, and he was injured and played a whopping 1 game in 2012. So he's not shown any signs of stopping.

He has a history of spearing. Fines have done nothing to stop him. He was being called out by several players in 2010 and 2011. He's made public apologies and gone right back to leading with the crown of his head.

They might as well do this to decide the punishment for personal fouls; it would be just as effective in deterring future head shots:
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
Much as I hate Packers taking head shots, I would want to see evidence of intent to injure before suspending somebody. It's INSTINCTIVE to hit that way; It could easily be a Packer doing it at some point - just doing what seems natural in the heat of battle where you react more than you think about it.



If it is his instinct to spear, than that is all the more reason to suspend him. If he had shown any effort to wrap up and tackle I could cut slack, but when a players goes in, arms down and head lowered they are not trying to tackle, they are trying to knock somebody out.
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even Goldson's suspension was overturned.


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Bucs safety Dashon Goldson had his one-game suspension overturned, NFL Media insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday, according to a league source.
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post

They should just call it what it is, spearing, the key I look for is the arms, if the arms are not in position to attempt a wrap up, they are not trying to tackle.


This. Question should be "where are the arms", not "where is the head".

If people taught tackle form and paid attention to what the player is doing with his arms rather than, well, whatever they teach re: tackling, my feeling is that more than 50% of the "head-threatening" plays would disappear. Two reasons: One, arms in proper tackling position (open and in front of shoulders) will make the chest absorb more of the force that "tackling through the ball carrier-style tackling provides, and means the top of shoulders/neck/head getting less of that force. Two, the speed of impact will decrease because arm position is going to slow the forward movement more than arms down/back/spearing will; even if you "launch" you are going to decelerate faster. Three, you're not going to launch as easily -- try launching yourself starting with your arms in front of your shoulders sometime. You're going to look like Ryan Pickett trying to go vertical, I imagine.
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