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Offline Greg C.  
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:54:07 PM(UTC)
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WR Brett Swain caught a TD pass from Flynn on a little slant route, but he dropped two passes and made a fair catch on a punt when there was nobody within 15 yards of him. He will probably get cut and may not even make the practice squad. Quinn and Jake Allen (the guy who caught that TD at the end) both look better.

LB Spencer Havner made a great play on special teams and made a case for the Packers to keep 7 LBs. But then there's Tracy White, who is another really good special teamer. Could Ted somehow keep EIGHT linebackers? I doubt it. As for the top six, aside from the three starters, Bishop and Hodge were both awesome again, and I think they are both better than Chillar.

Mike Montgomery was very active on the DL, even against the Titans' #1 OL. I've been down on him, so it was great to see him making plays.

Jeremy Thompson, the rookie, got some rush off the edge. It was his best game yet. The pass rush was pretty good tonight overall.

Jarrett Bush got turned around in one-on-one coverage and committed a very Ahmad Carroll-like pass interference penalty. With some other players excelling on special teams, I'm not sure there's a place for him on the roster anymore.

Charlie Peprah did not play. I like him, but he may get cut because of his inability to get on the field in the preseason due to injury.

Kregg Lumpkin did not have much good blocking to work with, but he ran hard and he may make the roster.

The long snapper, J.J. Jansen, made two bad snaps and ended the game with ice on his knee. That was discouraging after he had looked good up till now.

TE Haynos had a nice catch and strong run, but will probably still be on the outside looking in when they make the roster cuts. He could be practice squad material.
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Offline zombieslayer  
#2 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 12:18:35 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Greg.

Bush is probably gone then. He's been disappointing me all preseason long.

We should really keep 7 LBs, but would be weird if it's Havner. He was a long shot to make the team.
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Offline Greg C.  
#3 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 12:26:40 AM(UTC)
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We should really keep 7 LBs, but would be weird if it's Havner. He was a long shot to make the team.


The color commentator, Rich Gannon, said that Havner would make the team based on his performance tonight, and he almost had me convinced, but then I remembered Tracy White. We've just got too many good LB's right now. Maybe Thompson could trade one of them for a DT if some other team is overloaded at that position. But I feel a little better about our DT's after tonight's game. The middle was not as soft as it was during the first three games.
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Offline porky88  
#4 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 2:16:22 AM(UTC)
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I think someone is going to offer a nice draft pick for Bishop or Hodge so I would anticipate a trade. I really think Bishop and Hodge can be starting caliber linebackers. I think they're better than any middle linebacker in Detroit. Ahead of Paris Lenon and Jordan Dizon in my opinion.

Havner played very well. I don't think Rich Gannon is right though. I don't think he's near a lock. Tracey White was one of the best if not the best special teams coverage player on this team a year ago. You don't overlook that for two rock solid plays by Havner and for the record, I was a big fan of Havner at UCLA so it's not like I'm being picky or anything.

It's a tough choice but one that's good to have.
Offline yooperfan  
#5 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 5:38:28 AM(UTC)
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I'm pulling for Lumpkin to make it.
Offline Mortfini  
#6 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 6:34:50 AM(UTC)
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in my very drunk and tried state i think Lumpkin was Very good So was Mike Montgomery Also we seem to be Stock piling return men Pat lee looked really good on returns
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Offline agopackgo4  
#7 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 6:45:20 AM(UTC)
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The long snapper, J.J. Jansen, made two bad snaps and ended the game with ice on his knee. That was discouraging after he had looked good up till now.


According to what I heard with Jansen, he is not going to be going anywehre. Not because of his preformance anyway..They like him from what I hear. Anyone know why he had the ice?
Offline Cheesey  
#8 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 7:36:15 AM(UTC)
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I'm pulling for Lumpkin to make it.

Me too Yoop. The kid has shown he wants to play, and has guts! When he gets the ball, he drags people forward with him and doesn't go down without a fight. To me, thats the kind of guy you want in there on 3rd and one. He's gonna give you 100% trying to get that yard. And he has sone speed too when he gets in the open. To me, he's earned a spot.
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Offline Greg C.  
#9 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 7:57:22 AM(UTC)
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Also we seem to be Stock piling return men Pat lee looked really good on returns


Yeah, he had two awesome returns. He really showed his athleticism (or as Rich Gannon would say, "atha-leticism") on those plays. And on the first one he made a great escape (or as Rich Gannon would say, "excape") from those would-be tacklers and picked up an extra 15-20 yards. He still has a ways to go with his coverage, though.
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Offline Cheesey  
#10 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 8:26:40 AM(UTC)
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Also we seem to be Stock piling return men Pat lee looked really good on returns


Yeah, he had two awesome returns. He really showed his athleticism (or as Rich Gannon would say, "atha-leticism") on those plays. And on the first one he made a great escape (or as Rich Gannon would say, "excape") from those would-be tacklers and picked up an extra 15-20 yards. He still has a ways to go with his coverage, though.

Gannon kind of talks like "Popeye!"
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Offline Mortfini  
#11 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 8:26:52 AM(UTC)
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im getting the view your not a Rich Gannon fan ?
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Offline Greg C.  
#12 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 8:31:34 AM(UTC)
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im getting the view your not a Rich Gannon fan ?


I think Gannon is a pretty good analyst, but it bothers me when someone who is paid to talk can't pronounce words correctly.
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Offline Cheesey  
#13 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 9:06:57 AM(UTC)
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I like Gannon.
It really doesn't bother me that he doesn't "prununcicate" words that well.
I don't know where he's from, but it may have alot to do with the way people talk there. I know that people from Wisconsin have a strange accent. I didn't realize it till i worked on the road with a friend of mine back in 1986. People down south said I talked funny, and had a strange accent. When i started to really listen, they were right! Like i noticed alot of Wisconsinites (including me) don't pronounce "Milwaukee" right. Alot of them say MAwaukee. Not "MIL". It's just one of those funny local things.
So i cut Gannon (and others) some slack.
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Offline minnypacker  
#14 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 9:51:11 AM(UTC)
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Isn't Gannon MM's buddy? I thought he even helped coach in a couple of minicamps a couple years back.
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Offline minnypacker  
#15 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 10:01:18 AM(UTC)
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The point I was trying to make is, maybe Gannon knows more about Havner than we think.
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Offline twebdonny  
#16 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 10:43:41 AM(UTC)
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Once again I think Lumpster has the heart and the ability and should make the team.

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Offline Pack93z  
#17 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 11:06:01 AM(UTC)
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Couple more bubble players I think that were not mentioned in this thread yet.

Danny Lansanah - LB - Kid has been solid in camp and decent on the field, nothing that stands out but has good range seems solid in assignments. He did have a roughing gaffe this preseason.. but more were he hit the QB than how late. I think they might be a bit scared that we won't make it through waivers. The thing going against him is the depth at LB, especially MLB. But no doubt about it, this kid can play at this level. I really like this kid as a player.

Orrin Thompson - T - I think this kid has a roster spot over the disappointment in Giacomini after the pads went on.. we need a true backup at tackle, unless they claim a waiver pickup that they feel is overall better, I think this kid might have a spot on the 53. Not starting material, but played just well enough to stay around, IMO.

Jake Allen - WR - Said it earlier in the TC.. this kid is a dark horse to stick on the roster because of potential and the difficulty they may have in getting him through waivers. Smith has looked good at times to, but kind of disappeared late in camp. I think this kid may stick as the #6 WR.

Greg mentioned him already, but I really like the overall game of Joey Haynos, brings a blockers mentality to the position and has shown enough in the receiving game IMO. I would keep him over Humphrey based on Tory's injury / availability record of the past couple years. Another kid that can play, IMO.
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Offline gotarace  
#18 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 11:14:45 AM(UTC)
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I think someone is going to offer a nice draft pick for Bishop or Hodge so I would anticipate a trade. I really think Bishop and Hodge can be starting caliber linebackers. I think they're better than any middle linebacker in Detroit. Ahead of Paris Lenon and Jordan Dizon in my opinion.

Havner played very well. I don't think Rich Gannon is right though. I don't think he's near a lock. Tracey White was one of the best if not the best special teams coverage player on this team a year ago. You don't overlook that for two rock solid plays by Havner and for the record, I was a big fan of Havner at UCLA so it's not like I'm being picky or anything.

It's a tough choice but one that's good to have.

I sure would hate to lose either one of these linebackers. It is a solid thought porky and we all know how Ted Thompson loves draft picks. As someone quoted before this could be the first year the packers have to cut starting nfl quality players and get nothing in return for them.
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Offline MassPackersFan  
#19 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 12:12:30 PM(UTC)
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I'd like to see Jake Allen as the #6 WR on the team, definitely.

Poppinga and Chillar have shown me absolutely nothing this preseason, especially considering they should be taking turns stepping up, as they're supposedly competing for the starting spot. If Bishop can play that role well, I see no reason not to start him.
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#20 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 12:59:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
I think someone is going to offer a nice draft pick for Bishop or Hodge so I would anticipate a trade. I really think Bishop and Hodge can be starting caliber linebackers. I think they're better than any middle linebacker in Detroit. Ahead of Paris Lenon and Jordan Dizon in my opinion.

Havner played very well. I don't think Rich Gannon is right though. I don't think he's near a lock. Tracey White was one of the best if not the best special teams coverage player on this team a year ago. You don't overlook that for two rock solid plays by Havner and for the record, I was a big fan of Havner at UCLA so it's not like I'm being picky or anything.

It's a tough choice but one that's good to have.


I hope they don't trade Hodge. To be honest I think he can be better than Barnett if he stays healthy. We have some outstanding linebckers, no doubt. Why can draft backers and can't find a corner that can play?
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Offline packedhouse02  
#21 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 1:03:17 PM(UTC)
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The offensive line is still pretty offensive. I think our ace in the hole is our salary cap abundance. We have to hope that some team will get caught with a lack of cap room and will have to cut a really good tackle or guard or both and we can pick them up. We have plenty of cap room. I think we may end up using that cap space for a QB, because I'm betting one of our QB's is going to come down with an injury this week that will put them on IR (wink)
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Offline Pack93z  
#22 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 1:07:23 PM(UTC)
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I hope they don't trade Hodge. To be honest I think he can be better than Barnett if he stays healthy. We have some outstanding linebckers, no doubt. Why can draft backers and can't find a corner that can play?


I am more disappointed in the performance and ability to find guards that can consistently play solid ball game in and out than the lack of depth at CB. Williams can flat out play for a youngin.. Blackmon is okay and an I think Lee will develop rapidly..

At guard, we seem to have players step up for a couple of games and then fall on their tail again.. I know youth will bring that, but their lack of overall growth has been disappointing.. they make the same mistakes over and over again.. they start to play tall, lose leverage then their footwork goes into the tank. Sometimes I think I could display better interior footwork with only one of those boys with two. :lol: (I am only half joking.. :lol: )

Honestly though.. it is either poor coaching or guys that are lazy not to be playing with proper leverage.. or maybe they lack the ultimate quality one has to have to play along the oline, fire and heart.
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Offline zombieslayer  
#23 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 1:42:34 PM(UTC)
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I hope they don't trade Hodge. To be honest I think he can be better than Barnett if he stays healthy. We have some outstanding linebckers, no doubt. Why can draft backers and can't find a corner that can play?


There's no way Hodge is better than Barnett. Barnett's one of the best MLBs in the NFL. Don't be surprised if he's in the Pro Bowl this year.
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Offline Greg C.  
#24 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:22:01 PM(UTC)
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I'd like to see Jake Allen as the #6 WR on the team, definitely.

Poppinga and Chillar have shown me absolutely nothing this preseason, especially considering they should be taking turns stepping up, as they're supposedly competing for the starting spot. If Bishop can play that role well, I see no reason not to start him.


I agree with you on Chillar, but Poppinga has had a good camp. He sewed up the starting SLB position pretty quickly, and he made a few good plays in the preseason games, which is a few more than Chillar made. I like Bishop a lot, but he's never played SLB--mostly just MLB with some work in the past couple weeks at WLB.
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#25 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:43:21 PM(UTC)
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I hope they don't trade Hodge. To be honest I think he can be better than Barnett if he stays healthy. We have some outstanding linebckers, no doubt. Why can draft backers and can't find a corner that can play?


There's no way Hodge is better than Barnett. Barnett's one of the best MLBs in the NFL. Don't be surprised if he's in the Pro Bowl this year.


Barnett is all over the field, he is one of the most valuable players on defense. Remember when we played the Seahawks a few years ago on that snowy Monday Night. Nick Barnett missed the game due to a broken hand and Shaun Alexander ran for 200 yards. Coincidence? I think not :)
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