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Offline shanks2122  
#1 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 1:18:58 PM(UTC)
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i think they are both gonna get cut just because of the fact they didn't get to play all pre-season long, if it wasn't grant and jackson in there lumpkin carried the ball
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#2 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 1:23:28 PM(UTC)
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I agree Lumpkin has looked good, but I think Herron has the edge right now.

Personally, if we only keep 3 RBs I hope Lumpy stays, because he has more upside than Herron or Morency.
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#3 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 2:42:39 PM(UTC)
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I may be in a minority here, but I'd take Herron over Lumpkin. Herron has proved his worth in regular season.
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#4 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:00:33 PM(UTC)
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Herron is #3. If we keep a fourth one, we should keep Lumpkin.
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#5 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:24:34 PM(UTC)
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I may be in a minority here, but I'd take Herron over Lumpkin. Herron has proved his worth in regular season.


I agree, I liked Herron for a few years now and was sad when he went on the IR last year. However it was a blessing in disguise because if he was on the roster, we may never have found Ryan Grant.

Herron is a good third down back, he blocks well, catches the ball, and can even run the ball if needed.
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#6 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:35:55 PM(UTC)
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i think they are both gonna get cut just because of the fact they didn't get to play all pre-season long,


That's pretty weak logic.

Grant hardly played in the pre-season, but he isn't going to get cut.

My point is simple: pre-season playing time in games isn't the sole means of determining the roster.

Herron is our best RB in terms of picking up blitzes, protecting the QB. Grant showed improvement in that area, especially with him helping our Gs block Haynsworth yesterday, but I still think Herron is the best blocking RB on our team.

On third downs you need to have a sure blocker, someone you know will be able to read the D and pick up the blitz. That's what won Morency the third down RB job last year when he came back from injury and looked to be less than 100% for the entire season.

Herron has also proven that he can step in and give you a solid running game if need be from his performance in 2006. He's a proven vet, I think he's got a spot on this team.
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#7 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:47:28 PM(UTC)
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the only reason im using this logic is that i would want to see what kind of stamina my third string back has and so far the only one that they are testing is lumpkin
and i know they already know what morency can bring but how much game-time does herron have?
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#8 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:48:48 PM(UTC)
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IMO we will keep 6 backs in total..

FB - Kuhn and Hall

RB - Grant, Jackson, Herron and Lumpkin.

Mo will be no Mo in Lambeau.. he hasn't stayed healthy yet for more than a couple games at a stretch.. Lumpkin has proved he can tote the rock if needed.. he will be a game day inactive if all other RB's are healthy.

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#9 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:49:48 PM(UTC)
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Herron is our best RB in terms of picking up blitzes, protecting the QB. Grant


This is huge. People underestimate how important that ability is, but I'm sure the coaches don't.

Also helps he can get us 4 yards a run.
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#10 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 3:57:24 PM(UTC)
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IMO we will keep 6 backs in total..

FB - Kuhn and Hall

RB - Grant, Jackson, Herron and Lumpkin.

Mo will be no Mo in Lambeau.. he hasn't stayed healthy yet for more than a couple games at a stretch.. Lumpkin has proved he can tote the rock if needed.. he will be a game day inactive if all other RB's are healthy.

IMO of course.



Based on what I've heard about Lumpkin, I've been wanting this too.

But realistically, I doubt we can keep 6 backs in total. if you look at a roster breakdown: 3 QBs/5 WRs/3 TE/9 OL/10 DL/6 LB/5 CB/4 S/3 ST then you've already got 48 players. that leaves 5 spots open for backs.

The problem is that we need to keep extra bodies for the D-Line, it's more important to have extra bodies at DE/DT than it is at RB.

I think Lumpkin gets caught up in the numbers game.
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#11 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 4:02:34 PM(UTC)
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AADP... great rebuttal post.. and it very well might get brought into play on the numbers game... but we have Harrell on the PUP already and KGB very well might land there as well..

My wager is that we start the year light on the Dline in terms of numbers and keep a couple skilled players as extras.. week 6 rolls around.. someone or two will land on the IR with an injury protecting players of interest that won't make it through waivers to the PS.

We will see.. Ted Thompson and company have had some weird roster configurations to start the year at times.. I am sure this one will be no different. :lol:
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#12 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 4:15:22 PM(UTC)
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We will see.. Ted Thompson and company have had some weird roster configurations to start the year at times.. I am sure this one will be no different. :lol:


So true.

The thing that worries me is the D-line is not too strong going into the season, and I believe McCarthy/TT believe the games are won and lost in the trenches. That sounds pretty stupid considering we've had a lot of shuffling on the inside of the o-line, but I still think McCarthy and Ted live by this philosophy.

Taking that into account, and the fact that Pickett will be seeing his first action against the Vikes, I think (or perhaps prefer?) the Packers play it safe and keep an extra DT on the roster, even if it is Muir or Malone.

If I remember correctly, a couple of years ago the Packers had a verbal agreement with a player that they'd resign him after they released him in the final cuts. That was done so they had time to trade FB Nick Luchey I think.

Perhaps that's the route the Packers can take here too? They have a wink-wink/nudge-nudge agreement with Lumpkin that he'll be back in a couple of weeks once the DT rotation becomes more solid....?

Considering Lumpkin said the Packers were the only team to show interest in signing him, he might do this as a show of his gratitude for the Packers making the only serious offer to sign him after the draft...
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#13 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 5:22:25 PM(UTC)
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I'd hate to see Lumpy not here. He has shown he WANTS to play, and is a tough son of a gun. Guys like that don't grow on trees.
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#14 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 5:25:48 PM(UTC)
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I'd hate to see Lumpy not here. He has shown he WANTS to play, and is a tough son of a gun. Guys like that don't grow on trees.


Um...Cheesey...

people don't grow on trees period. They get delivered by storks.

Anyways, I'm hoping nobody snags Lumpy from our PS, which he'll probably end up. I like the kid, but think Herron's underrated and don't want to lose him either.
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#15 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2008 5:29:52 PM(UTC)
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I'd hate to see Lumpy not here. He has shown he WANTS to play, and is a tough son of a gun. Guys like that don't grow on trees.


Um...Cheesey...

people don't grow on trees period. They get delivered by storks.

Anyways, I'm hoping nobody snags Lumpy from our PS, which he'll probably end up. I like the kid, but think Herron's underrated and don't want to lose him either.

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I, myself, got delivered by U.P.S.!!! :thumbright:
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