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Offline Cheesey  
#16 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:52:35 PM(UTC)
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Think about it........now there are video cameras all over our highways. They can monitor anything.......phones, computer, anything.
Look at "Google Earth"........look how far you can zoom in. You can see cars very clearly. Now.......if we as a people can see that from a satelite, you KNOW that the government can zoom it in to where they can see you, your license plate, and so on. "Big brother" really IS watching us.

Here is a story that was told to me by a friend. A friend of his had taken out a VERY large amount of money from his bank. He put it in his trunk in a bag. He's driving down the highway, when he is pulled over by cops, with guns drawn. They take him out of his car, and he asks WHY he's been pulled over. They ask him "Why do you have 25 thousand dollars in your car?" He looks puzzled, and ask them "How in the heck do you know how much money i have in my car?" They tell him "The strip embeded in the bills tell them how much is there." He of course was cleared when they contacted his bank.
There is SO much they know about us that we don't realize. What food do you buy? If you use a store card for discounts, or a credit card, they know just what you buy with the UPC codes.
This has been going on for years. People are just realizing it now. This is not anything new.


1984 dude.
I've thought that for along time, even before the internet came along.

I wish i would have read that book. My folks had it. I remember finding it in the upstairs closet, and thinking how OLD i would be in 1984. (Isn't THAT thought funny now???)
I was watching an old "Lost In Space" episode a few weeks back. It was the 1st one, and the date they were supposed to be from was i believe 1999. It made me laugh!!!
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#17 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:54:33 PM(UTC)
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I see what you're saying. I'm just not sure if individual bills are encoded with the depositor and withdrawer's personally identifiable information. Obviously the technology is there; I don't know if the infrastructure is there. It would seem prohibitively expensive to install this kind of equipment in every financial institution in the nation, but who knows?

Is there anyone here who has intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the banking system and can shed light on this issue?
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#18 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:08:18 PM(UTC)
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I see what you're saying. I'm just not sure if individual bills are encoded with the depositor and withdrawer's personally identifiable information. Obviously the technology is there; I don't know if the infrastructure is there. It would seem prohibitively expensive to install this kind of equipment in every financial institution in the nation, but who knows?

Is there anyone here who has intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the banking system and can shed light on this issue?

No....i don't mean the bills are encoded with our personal info, just with their denomination. Then they have a "gun" that can tell what the denominations are, thus why they could tell how much was in the guys trunk.
But they CAN track what we spend through credit/debit cards, "store savings" cards, your checks, and so on. Not specific bills, but amounts and on what.
Plus, i doubt that the "average" worker at a bank has access to this kind of info. I would think that would be only those in high positions.
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#19 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 11:16:58 AM(UTC)
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I see what you're saying. I'm just not sure if individual bills are encoded with the depositor and withdrawer's personally identifiable information. Obviously the technology is there; I don't know if the infrastructure is there. It would seem prohibitively expensive to install this kind of equipment in every financial institution in the nation, but who knows?

Is there anyone here who has intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the banking system and can shed light on this issue?


uh yes - that'd be me. as i explained before - no way in heck is that what's happening. bills are NOT encoded with that type of information. i've been in banking for 15 years, worked in small hometown banks as well as large commercial banks - not ONE of them had or has the technological ability to do something like this nor would they want to. the vast majority of bank robberies are solved very quickly & are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

the banking industry relies heavily on their staff to make decisions about suspicious activity with their customers. we are required to complete SAR's which are definitely tracked by the individual bank & at the state & possibly federal levels as well depending upon the situation.

on a more individual basis, if the bank staff is concerned about the well being of a customer especially in the event of a large cash withdrawal, they can contact the authorities & have them check out the situation further once said customer leaves the bank, if necessary.
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#20 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 3:50:30 PM(UTC)
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I would far rather be free than safe. In a time of true national crisis (this War on Terrorism hardly qualifies), I'd place infinitely more trust in a well-armed populace as guaranteed by the Second Amendment than my supposedly benevolent government. One of the reasons Hitler never invaded Switzerland was that, then as now, the government relies primarily on the militia model for national defense, issuing all able-bodied men a fully automatic assault weapon and 72 rounds of ammunition (which must be kept sealed) and mandating that they demonstrate proficiency with their weapon at least yearly. If Hitler, with his powerful standing army, didn't think it was worth the risk to invade this tiny country that bordered Germany, why should an immense, well-armed nation like ours, with the highest rate of gun ownership in the world, fear a bunch of tribal insurgents who have no capability -- and little if any desire -- to invade the United States in any meaningful sense of the word?


+1.
No one is ever "safe." I hate the people who believe in the delusion of safety. I really wish I could make them my slaves. No, I'm not joking. I don't put much value on their existence.

For instance, I had only flown once since 9/11 - to Vegas for a friend's wedding. I hate flying now because you're treated like a criminal and being unarmed = not safe.

So I'm about to get on a plane and they take the girl in front of me's plastic cigarette lighter. A freaking plastic lighter. I told her WTF, that's just stupid and she said "well, if it makes us safer..." She'd make a good slave.

If you can take a plane with a cigarette lighter, as far as I'm concerned, you should get the plane. It would be like "congratulations, Americans have become such pussies that you were able to take an airplane with a cigarette lighter. You get to keep the plane."

This whole safety thing is what caused 9/11 to happen in the first place. Now they're spying on us for our own good? No, I don't buy that.

I don't buy the terrorism in America thing either. Bring 'em on. It's probably what we need. A few guys blow themselves up, and watch how fast Americans will all pack heat. They won't live long enough to blow themselves up after that.

It has become a scary time. There are people who think like us who think it's OUR job to defend ourselves, and those who think it's the GOVERNMENT'S job. The latter ought to be our slaves.

Private ownership of guns is for:
1) To prevent foreign invasion,
2) To prevent tyranny,
3) To protect yourself and your family from thugs.

We'd be so much safer if people packed EVERYWHERE. Friendlier too. And watch how much better people would drive.
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#21 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 3:52:21 PM(UTC)
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No....i don't mean the bills are encoded with our personal info, just with their denomination. Then they have a "gun" that can tell what the denominations are, thus why they could tell how much was in the guys trunk.
But they CAN track what we spend through credit/debit cards, "store savings" cards, your checks, and so on. Not specific bills, but amounts and on what.
Plus, i doubt that the "average" worker at a bank has access to this kind of info. I would think that would be only those in high positions.


Cheesey - I've actually read from a reliable source it's when people take out $10,000, it triggers law enforcement. So of course the mob knowing this takes out increments of $9000.
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#22 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 6:10:45 PM(UTC)
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No....i don't mean the bills are encoded with our personal info, just with their denomination. Then they have a "gun" that can tell what the denominations are, thus why they could tell how much was in the guys trunk.
But they CAN track what we spend through credit/debit cards, "store savings" cards, your checks, and so on. Not specific bills, but amounts and on what.
Plus, i doubt that the "average" worker at a bank has access to this kind of info. I would think that would be only those in high positions.


Cheesey - I've actually read from a reliable source it's when people take out $10,000, it triggers law enforcement. So of course the mob knowing this takes out increments of $9000.

Well......I'll never have to worry about that then!
I never had 10 grand at one time!LOLOL!!!
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#23 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 9:27:37 PM(UTC)
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No....i don't mean the bills are encoded with our personal info, just with their denomination. Then they have a "gun" that can tell what the denominations are, thus why they could tell how much was in the guys trunk.
But they CAN track what we spend through credit/debit cards, "store savings" cards, your checks, and so on. Not specific bills, but amounts and on what.
Plus, i doubt that the "average" worker at a bank has access to this kind of info. I would think that would be only those in high positions.


Cheesey - I've actually read from a reliable source it's when people take out $10,000, it triggers law enforcement. So of course the mob knowing this takes out increments of $9000.


yet again, this is not entirely true. whenever a total sum of $10,000 in cash is deposited OR withdrawn by any given depositor during any given "business day", the bank is required by law to complete a Currency Transaction Report aka CTR. and yes the vast majority of those "in the know" are well aware of this & keep it even a penny under to avoid having a CTR filed on them. law enforcement is in no way contacted unless there appears to be illegal activity. there is also the "3 to 10" report. when a customer purchases traveler's checks or a cashier's check in cash from $3,000 - $10,000, this report is completed.
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#24 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 10:00:58 PM(UTC)
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yet again, this is not entirely true. whenever a total sum of $10,000 in cash is deposited OR withdrawn by any given depositor during any given "business day", the bank is required by law to complete a Currency Transaction Report aka CTR. and yes the vast majority of those "in the know" are well aware of this & keep it even a penny under to avoid having a CTR filed on them. law enforcement is in no way contacted unless there appears to be illegal activity. there is also the "3 to 10" report. when a customer purchases traveler's checks or a cashier's check in cash from $3,000 - $10,000, this report is completed.


Thanks for the correction, 4Pack. That's what they must be doing then - avoiding the CTR, which as you hinted may trigger a contact of law enforcement. Keep in mind, that's the last thing they want. They'd rather be under the radar.
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