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Offline Cheesey  
#11 Posted : Thursday, September 4, 2008 9:04:52 AM(UTC)
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If he gets to play the whole year, he will be big.
Thats a big if of course.
If he gets suspended for his idiot move, then the TEAM will suffer for his stupidity.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 4, 2008 11:30:33 AM(UTC)
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Because of the scheme both these guys are THE keys to the success of our run "D". I am not that worried about it because Pick played very little in the pre-season and he is without doubt the best we have in there doing the job they ask from their interior guys.

The thing about Jolly is with the talent he has he would probably be better suited where the scheme allows them to be more aggressive and allow him to just beat the guy across from him. He could most often do that. So the defensive philosophy used goes a little against the grain for him.


The best thing for Jolly is having Pickett next to him to learn from because he plays this defense perfectly. The numbers won't show this but Pickett is just as effective in this defense as either Williams is for the Vikes in theirs.

People wonder about our run "D but I do not because the two of these guys played together out there in pre season for a total of very few plays.
We'll see what teams do when all our front line players are on the field for most of the game.
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Dang, I still think if Tim "Six Shooter" Harris when I see 97.


I miss Tim Harris. Didn't he block something like 1 FG and 2 conversions in one year, plus get double digit sacks?
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Some people forget that Johnny Jolly actually STARTED over Corey Williams, the guy everyone is so upset that we lost. Jolly is gonna be a beast


C Williams was a force in the passing game. Got 7 1/2 sacks up the middle two years in a row.

Quick quiz. Who else in the NFL did that from the middle?
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Some people forget that Johnny Jolly actually STARTED over Corey Williams, the guy everyone is so upset that we lost. Jolly is gonna be a beast


C Williams was a force in the passing game. Got 7 1/2 sacks up the middle two years in a row.

Quick quiz. Who else in the NFL did that from the middle?


Yes he was a beast in the passing game, but that sometimes hurt the run game because he would try and shed blockers on run plays instead of holding them up and letting our LB's roam free.

Don't get me wrong, I liked him. I just think SOME people are over dramaticizing that our DT's aren't going to play at the same level because of Corey's lost.
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I'm not sure who did it twice in a row, but Williams only had seven sacks last year. :)

2006[ul]Warren Sapp OAK DT 10
Cory Redding DET DT 8
Vonnie Holliday MIA DT 7
Corey Williams GB DT 7
Cullen Jenkins GB DT 6.5
Rod Coleman ATL DT 6[/ul]


2007
[ul]Darnell Dockett ARI DT 9
Tommie Harris CHI DT 8
Corey Williams GB DT 7
Bryant Young SF DT 6.5
La'Roi Glover STL DT 6
Jovan Haye TB DT 6
Albert Haynesworth TEN DT 6[/ul]



You freaking bastid, it was a trick question, no one has had more than 7 sacks from the middle the last two years!! Damn you, making me go on a wild goose chase...
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I'm not sure who did it twice in a row, but Williams only had seven sacks last year. :)

2006[ul]Warren Sapp OAK DT 10
Cory Redding DET DT 8
Vonnie Holliday MIA DT 7
Corey Williams GB DT 7
Cullen Jenkins GB DT 6.5
Rod Coleman ATL DT 6[/ul]


2007
[ul]Darnell Dockett ARI DT 9
Tommie Harris CHI DT 8
Corey Williams GB DT 7
Bryant Young SF DT 6.5
La'Roi Glover STL DT 6
Jovan Haye TB DT 6
Albert Haynesworth TEN DT 6[/ul]



You freaking bastid, it was a trick question, no one has had more than 7 sacks from the middle the last two years!! Damn you, making me go on a wild goose chase...


Thank you Zero. Sorry for putting you through all that crap, but that was the point I was trying to make.

NO ONE got 7 sacks from the middle two years in a row in the entire NFL other than Corey Williams. See why the Browns (that's who got him, right?) were so adamant about getting Corey?
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Thank you Zero. Sorry for putting you through all that crap, but that was the point I was trying to make.

NO ONE got 7 sacks from the middle two years in a row in the entire NFL other than Corey Williams. See why the Browns (that's who got him, right?) were so adamant about getting Corey?


Oh you're not sorry, you know I'm a stat monkey! lol :)

I thought the trade was a good move when it happened, now, not so much and I don't know why. We still have the same crop of DT. Maybe because I think Brohm pick wasn't so hot? I dunno.
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