Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 1:21:20 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,448
Applause Received: 3,865
I don't know about you guys, but I remember quite a few people thinking that Samkon Gado was the next great thing. He had a pretty solid second half to his season too, until he got hurt.

Now where is he?


I just hope we aren't thinking Grant is the real deal like some of us did with Gado and get disappointed.
Offline longtimefan  
#2 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 1:38:21 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 11/30/2006(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 21
Gado was different...He was a feel good story and during his 1st half of a season did pretty well...As the NEXT preseason started, he did not separate himself from any of the other backs on the roster...That is when the team probably thought he was just a flash in the pan...

Which he was..

He had all the makings of a great nfl story but it just never came to be...

While I have heard Grant and Gado mentioned in same breath, I think we have seen what each can and can not do..

But more importantly Edgar, Ted and the like KNOW what he can and can not do..And they wouldn't just toss all that money at him for no reason and WE ALL KNOW how much Ted Thompson hates to pass out money like that for unproven players
Offline HoustonMatt  
#3 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 2:03:45 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 9/1/2008(UTC)
Upon reading the initial post, my first reaction was "Of course Grant is different than Gado. Gado was a fluke; Grant is the real deal."

But I've sat here for 10 minutes trying to find solid evidence to support that opinion and I can't honestly do it. Does that mean Grant will have the same fate as Gado? Of course not. It just means that the evidence we have on hand doesn't necessarily lend itself to the conclusion that Grant is definitively different than Gado. Here's what I can come up with though:

While both sample sizes are limited, Grant's was twice as large as Gado's.
Grant, being a star high school athlete and productive college player at a big time school, shows that the talent was there from the beginning and that he was just overlooked by NFL executives - likely due to the hand injury.

I can't come up with much else, though I'll be interested to hear your takes. Again, I think Grant is different, but I can't find the data to support it.

" said: Go to Quoted Post


But more importantly Edgar, Ted and the like KNOW what he can and can not do..And they wouldn't just toss all that money at him for no reason and WE ALL KNOW how muchTed Thompsonhates to pass out money like that for unproven players


I'm as big of a believer in Ted Thompson and Packer management as the next guy, and I see the above reasoning a lot on this board. Regardless, it's still a logical fallacy. Appeal to authority is what I believe it to be called. The fallacy lies in that the expert's opinon (TT in this case), is used as evidence that the decision must be correct. The problem is that the argument ignores that fact that the expert can, and frequently is, wrong. So while TT's decision to sign Grant long term and not Gado, may lend credence to the idea that Grant is better than Gado, it certainly doesn't prove the case.

If you're being intellectually honest, you have to conclude that the verdict is still out on whether or not Grant is significantly different than Gado. For my money, I'd make a solid bet for that to be the case, but we can't unequivocally "know" it.
Offline longtimefan  
#4 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 2:21:28 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 11/30/2006(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 21
You and I do not have the ability to see practices, sit in on meetings, where as Ted Thompson , Mike McCarthy , Edgar along with others do and know EXACTLY how the 2 guys are different...

But I would agree with you that we do not know for sure if Grant has IT
Offline johnny_blood  
#5 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 2:22:53 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Gado was a suprise and feel good story on a terrible team. Grant was a surprise on a winning team. Gado took the spotlight when the offense was garbage and there was little to be excited about, Grant took the spotlight when the offense was top-tier.

Gado had 582 yards in his best season. Grant had almost 1,000, and holds the Packers playoff single-game yardage record.
Offline shield4life  
#6 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 9:53:21 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Canada
Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6
Applause Received: 55
I know grant is/was injured but can't seem to remember when it happened was it in the giants game? Didn't he finish the game?
Offline bozz_2006  
#7 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 10:17:06 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 7/15/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 20
Applause Received: 14
appeal to authority is valid corroborative evidence if there is ample prior evidence to support an appeal
Offline gbpfan  
#8 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 3:55:14 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Location: milwaukee
Applause Received: 3
the only thing i can say about gado is he isnt with the texans anymore either forget why grant i think he brings more to the table with he keeps going makes somthing out of nothing he looks for gaps plus he knows how to run behind players to get more yards dont get me wrong i liked gado thought he would have been good.
Offline PackerFan  
#9 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 5:43:40 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/16/2008(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I know grant is/was injured but can't seem to remember when it happened was it in the giants game? Didn't he finish the game?


No they pulled him out after the first half but it wasn't due to injury. He got hurt shortly after signing his new contract. He signed it and then practiced I think twice before he went down with the injury and has missed pretty much everything else.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Smokey (4h) : JOIN THE FORUM AND POST YOUR VIEWS !
The_Green_Ninja (11h) : ...bro his senior year turns into a different person drunk. Gets in fights. And one time trashed out a Pita Pit by throwing his food
The_Green_Ninja (11h) : Fun fact from people I know who knew Dak Prescott when he was at Mississippi State...
Pack93z (17h) : @Dhazer Winning the regular season title.... lol... good for a soggy cookie... see you in the playoffs.. ;)
Nonstopdrivel (17h) : In any case, Rashaan Salaam died this week.
Nonstopdrivel (17h) : Didn't there used to be a member who posted as Rashaan Salami?
Smokey (21h) : REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR , 75 years ago today. God Bless America
Zero2Cool (22h) : Today's Birthdays: Gilligan (46)
Smokey (7-Dec) : The TFFL could use 4 more like you Jon. Know any that wants to join next year ?
Smokey (7-Dec) : I am proud of you Jon .
Smokey (7-Dec) : Yes Jon, you can indeed be proud of your efforts . I am .
rabidgopher04 (7-Dec) : league behind you and the other guy.
rabidgopher04 (7-Dec) : @Smokey - tough competition for sure. I'm not holding my breath. Just glad I could rebound after a bad start. 3rd most points scored in the
Smokey (7-Dec) : You won what other league dhazer ?
Smokey (7-Dec) : for
Smokey (7-Dec) : Low blow dhazer, 5 min. in the penalty box foe slashing ! lol
Smokey (7-Dec) : Yes, fine job rabid. Now compete with the other 9 - 4 in the league . ;) LOL !
rabidgopher04 (7-Dec) : Correction: I am second seed in the playoffs
rabidgopher04 (7-Dec) : I crawled my way back from 2-6 to 7-6 to win my division and 3rd place in Tailgaters FFL. Playoff should be fun.
Zero2Cool (6-Dec) : ;-)
dhazer (6-Dec) : i clinched last place in the Packershome thanks to the awesome draft skills of smokey lol and won the other league
Zero2Cool (6-Dec) : Wow. Rashaan Salaam was found dead Monday night at a park in Boulder. Police said there was no sign of foul play. He was 42
Pack93z (6-Dec) : In one league I went from 2-5 to 8-5 and clinched a playoff spot... #Believe Best I have for the Packers at the moment.
Zero2Cool (6-Dec) : Sweet. I backed my sweet ass into the playoffs. 8th and final seed.
Smokey (6-Dec) : Thank you Zero, I also just finished the Reg. Fantasy season at #1 . (Tailgaters Fantasy Football League ) .
The_Green_Ninja (5-Dec) : Same ol' Jay xD
Zero2Cool (5-Dec) : Aaron Rodgers over the last 7 games: 302 passing yards/game, 19 TDs, 3 INTs, 104.6 passer rating. 212 rushing yards, TD.
Zero2Cool (5-Dec) : Nice! I noticed you rocked your NFL Picks this week too! Nice work!!
Smokey (5-Dec) : Yes, he got me 29 fantasy points !
Zero2Cool (5-Dec) : Didn't David Johnson have a really good game though?
DarkaneRules (4-Dec) : cardinals run game looks worse than ours
Zero2Cool (4-Dec) : Packers inactives v Texans: WR Trevor Davis CB Makinton Dorleant ILB Blake Martinez OLB Kyler Fackrell RG Lang C Tretter DT Christian Ringo
buckeyepackfan (4-Dec) : GOOD MORNING PACKER FANS! GAMEDAY! GO! PACK! GO!
Zero2Cool (2-Dec) : lol
TheKanataThrilla (2-Dec) : That's a better description Zero thanks.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Nonstopdrivel

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Porforis

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

6-Dec / Fantasy Sports Talk / Zero2Cool

6-Dec / Fantasy Sports Talk / Smokey

6-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

6-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

6-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey


Packers Headlines