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Offline wpr  
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:43:57 AM(UTC)
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The following is the Q&A after Monday night's 24-19 victory over the Minnesota Vikings:

Q. Overall, what did you think of the performance of quarterback Aaron Rodgers?

A. I thought he went through his progressions really well. I wasn't surprised that the offense started slow. I think it was good play-calling by (Mike) McCarthy to get him out of the pocket. People probably didn't know he was that fast. The pass he threw to (Greg) Jennings - the long pass - the pass he hit (Donald) Driver on that was called back and another pass he threw over the middle to Driver, he showed that he can throw with velocity. I was very happy with his overall performance. I think everybody in the stadium was shocked; I wasn't. Aaron has the mind of a golfer. You can hit a bad shot or you can hit a 50-foot birdie putt and it's the same to him. He doesn't get rattled, you can't intimidate him, he's a cool, calm guy. It didn't bother him all those comments the Vikings made during the week. He doesn't care that there are 40 Jets jerseys in the stands. It doesn't bother him. It doesn't bother him if he looks in the stands and see's a sign about Brett. This is one of the mentally toughest guys for someone in his age group I've seen in a long time. You have to be mentally tough to fill Brett Favre's shoes.

Q. How much can you see them getting out of his running ability? Can they incorporate that into their offense?

A. They do a lot of play-action and bootlegs and a lot of sprint options to get him out of the pocket anyway. They can use that. You have to give McCarthy a lot of credit for moving his quarterback around. He can be a scrambling quarterback, he can be a pocket passer, he can do it all. He can make all the throws. A lot of veterans can't make all the throws. He can throw the ball 56 yards with a tight spiral, he can throw a 25-yard comeback, he can dump it over the middle. But he also knows he's not going to complete 18 of 22 every time. That's why I like him. He's mentally tough.

Q. What did you see on defense that you liked and what did you see that you didn't like?

A. What I saw on defense that I liked, I saw 11 guys to the ball. This defense is probably one of the top three fastest defenses in the league. They hit you. They don't make a lot of mistakes. And they don't put themselves in bad situations. You know, second and 1, third and inches, they make you earn it. And for the most part they tackle well. There were a few missed tackles, but they tackle well. What needs to improve are the run angles. On Adrian Peterson's long run there were some bad angles taken. On another couple runs where Travaris Jackson ran the ball there were some bad angles. But everything can be corrected.

Q. Have you ever seen a game with more dumb penalties committed?

A. They had, what, a first-and-33 after consecutive penalties? I'll put that on rust and them being excited on Monday Night Football, first game. Those kind of things hurt you, but those are mental errors that can be corrected. I don't think that's going to be a trend because McCarthy has them coached so well. You're going to have penalties, but not consecutively. Those are the ones that hurt you. Some of that is mental mistakes. The offensive line really didn't perform well during the pre-season, so I wasn't surprised it took them a little while to get going. But I think they've made a vast improvement from the San Francisco game to now. And that's how it is. [size=18]They didn't give up any sacks. I'll give up a few penalties here and there for no sacks. Jared Allen, did he even play? How did he do? I didn't even see him out there. [/size] So before we kill the offensive line, let's look at no sacks, over 100 yards rushing. Those are the positives. I give James Campen a lot of credit. He had them ready.


I loved LeRoy bashing Allen. Classic. :thumbleft:
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#2 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:54:11 AM(UTC)
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I do not have a great deal of respect for Leroy, the money grabbing guy who dishes fans, and demands his Autograph is worth more now than it was before.

I seen it personally when I was in Green Bay, and attended his birthday party at Champions Sports Bar. The man is all about the cash. Verry sad.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:01:26 AM(UTC)
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I do not have a great deal of respect for Leroy, the money grabbing guy who dishes fans, and demands his Autograph is worth more now than it was before.

I seen it personally when I was in Green Bay, and attended his birthday party at Champions Sports Bar. The man is all about the cash. Verry sad.


This.

I'm not even going to read what he has to say.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:02:44 AM(UTC)
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I agree with RP, but it is nice to see another perspective from a very good ex player
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#5 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:40:43 AM(UTC)
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A solid analysis from Leroy. I like what he said about Aaron Rodgers' mental toughness and his ability to make all the throws. Thanks for the article, wpr.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:42:40 AM(UTC)
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I agree with RP, but it is nice to see another perspective from a very good ex player

Yup.....i do too.....unfortunatly. My expierience with Butler wasn't good.

But i DO like that he keeps backing the Packers. He gave Rodgers props for playing well.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:58:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
I do not have a great deal of respect for Leroy, the money grabbing guy who dishes fans, and demands his Autograph is worth more now than it was before.

I seen it personally when I was in Green Bay, and attended his birthday party at Champions Sports Bar. The man is all about the cash. Verry sad.


really?? well that just sucks! thought he was one of the good guys. image...shattered! what else is new?
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#8 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:08:46 AM(UTC)
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I do not have a great deal of respect for Leroy, the money grabbing guy who dishes fans, and demands his Autograph is worth more now than it was before.

I seen it personally when I was in Green Bay, and attended his birthday party at Champions Sports Bar. The man is all about the cash. Verry sad.


really?? well that just sucks! thought he was one of the good guys. image...shattered! what else is new?

I also was always under the impression that Butler was a nice guy. But thats not what i saw when i met him.
Edgar Bennett on the other hand was GREAT.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:20:24 AM(UTC)
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Yeah I know. There are a number of ex players that are all about the money. Jerry Kramer comes to mind. He was doing an autograph signing in the parking lot at Stadium View before one of the games a couple of years back. This was right after his SB ring had been recovered.
I was walking by on the way to the stadium. There was no one in line waiting to speak to him or to get his autograph. I walked up to tell him congratulations. He looked away from me and started to talk to one of his handlers. I walked to the other side of the table and was waiting for him to finish what he wasy saying. Some one else looked at me and said if I wanted to talke to him I would have to buy a ticket. I figured screw him. Now I don't care at all about him getting the ring back.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:52:53 AM(UTC)
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Edgar Bennett on the other hand was GREAT.


Edgar is a class individual, I have met him several times back in the early 90's, very nice guy. He enjoys a good laugh, he would come into my office and tell a joke most of the time when he came in. Add to it he went to FSU..

I also have met LeRoy on several occasions as well, albeit in the early to mid 90's and I didn't see the same type of behavior that others here did. I seen a guy that had an ego, but seemed like a pretty decent fellow. Apparently times have changed.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#11 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:42:53 PM(UTC)
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Even if he's a complete jackass as a person, I'm still going to listen to his words. Why? Because the man loves football. Granted, I wouldn't be inviting him over to my anti-zombie compound any time soon.

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I think everybody in the stadium was shocked; I wasn't.


I wasn't either. I was voraciously defending Aaron Rodgers all preseason. I heard it all from Niner fans who were trying to rationalize in their heads that they didn't get Aaron Rodgers (they got Alex Smith instead for those who don't follow the Niners). I heard every insult in the book directed at Aaron Rodgers . The only thing I didn't know about Aaron Rodgers was just how fast he was scrambling.

I knew he could make those 50+ yard throws with minimal effort. He's got a gun, and he shoots straight.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:14:50 PM(UTC)
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Edgar Bennett on the other hand was GREAT.


Edgar is a class individual, I have met him several times back in the early 90's, very nice guy. He enjoys a good laugh, he would come into my office and tell a joke most of the time when he came in. Add to it he went to FSU..

I also have met LeRoy on several occasions as well, albeit in the early to mid 90's and I didn't see the same type of behavior that others here did. I seen a guy that had an ego, but seemed like a pretty decent fellow. Apparently times have changed.

For those that don't know, i'll tell the story of my time with him. It was just after the players got their SB 31 rings. Edgar Bennett was doing a appearance at our local Piggly Wiggly store. I asked Edgar to hold up his ring so i could get a picture of it, which he did. Butler was out in his SUV in the parking lot, waiting for Bennett to come out so they could go to an autograph signing in Milwaukee. NO ONE was out by his SUV, so i went up to it and asked "Mr. Butler, could you please hold your ring up so i could get a close up picture of it?" I was only 2 feet away from him. He totally ignored me, even though there was no one else there that would have bothered him. Bennett was coming out of the store, and i wanted to get a close up pic of him. He was getting in the passenger door, and i was walking quickly around the front of the SUV. Butler FLOORED it and had i not jumped out of the way, he would have hit me. Yes, it was that close to running me down. He never even cared if he would have hit me. Now i wish i would have let him. Maybe he would have learned to treat people/fans decently. I lost ALL respect for him as a person that day. Yes, he knows football, but all i have seen was a HUGE ego.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:35:51 PM(UTC)
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Aw man. If he would have hit you Mrs C could have retired too. How selfish were you? :flower: Not talking
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#14 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:42:15 PM(UTC)
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Aw man. If he would have hit you Mrs C could have retired too. How selfish were you? :flower: Not talking

I know.......i wish now i would have been a half second slower. But you just react in that situation. Your body just says "LOOK OUT!!!"
Had he hit me, at the speed he was going, there was NO way he could have stopped before running me over.
I might have been dead, but my wife would have been rich. Damn.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:54:32 PM(UTC)
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Aw man. If he would have hit you Mrs C could have retired too. How selfish were you? :flower: Not talking

I know.......i wish now i would have been a half second slower. But you just react in that situation. Your body just says "LOOK OUT!!!"
Had he hit me, at the speed he was going, there was NO way he could have stopped before running me over.
I might have been dead, but my wife would have been rich. Damn.


Nah, you're glad you didn't get hit. I don't think any injury is worthy any amount of cash. I mean, if it happens, it happens, but I don't think anyone truly wants that. I am most likely wrong on that lol.

Regarding Edgar Bennet ... I used to be a huge card collecting nut. You know, before it was the cool thing to create a card company? Yeah, back then. Anyhow, Dexter McNabb and Bennet came into Card Coin Corner. Dexter was a complete ass, but Bennet was pretty nice and polite. Dexter kind of gave the impression he was a superstar because he was in the NFL.

Anyone even remember guy now? lol
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#16 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:27:25 PM(UTC)
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Aw man. If he would have hit you Mrs C could have retired too. How selfish were you? :flower: Not talking

I know.......i wish now i would have been a half second slower. But you just react in that situation. Your body just says "LOOK OUT!!!"
Had he hit me, at the speed he was going, there was NO way he could have stopped before running me over.
I might have been dead, but my wife would have been rich. Damn.


Nah, you're glad you didn't get hit. I don't think any injury is worthy any amount of cash. I mean, if it happens, it happens, but I don't think anyone truly wants that. I am most likely wrong on that lol.

Regarding Edgar Bennet ... I used to be a huge card collecting nut. You know, before it was the cool thing to create a card company? Yeah, back then. Anyhow, Dexter McNabb and Bennet came into Card Coin Corner. Dexter was a complete ass, but Bennet was pretty nice and polite. Dexter kind of gave the impression he was a superstar because he was in the NFL.

Anyone even remember guy now? lol

Dexter WHO???
Is he Donovan's little brother??? :physassult:
I'm STILL a card collector. I've got a pretty neat collection. I have a card with a hunk of Brett Favre's game used helmet in it. It's part of the "G".Last year i pulled a Will Blackmon autographed card out of Topps Chrome.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:39:34 PM(UTC)
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I'm STILL a card collector. I've got a pretty neat collection. I have a card with a hunk of Brett Favre's game used helmet in it. It's part of the "G".Last year i pulled a Will Blackmon autographed card out of Topps Chrome.


I'd like to get back into it, but gosh, 8 bucks for 12 cards now? That's insane. I remember getting my money from my paper route when I was 12 and spending half it on cards. I have a fairly nice collection, but no real 'ringers'. My dad bought a pack of Score '90 and he ended up with Troy Aikman, Barry Sanders and Deion Sanders he got some other guy too, but I fail to remember his name.

He has a Dan Marino rookie card too.


Collecting cards just seems so bleh now to me. I remember when looking up a card was simple. Now when you page through your Beckett (which is like a phone book!) you have to search through something like two dozen different card manufactures. I still have some Becketts with Shaq, Jordan and some the ones from the 90's.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:47:40 PM(UTC)
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I pulled a Shaq autograhp 2 years ago, and i pulled a A-Rod (the baseball player) auto too.
I have pulled autos of Dorsey Levens and Antonio Freeman too.
And an auto of Emmitt Smith. One of my rarest pulls was a autograped "Super Tix" (it has an actual ticket stub from the Super Bowl) signed by Tom Brady. I have Favre's rookie from Stadium Club, Pro Set, Fleer Ultra, Pacific, and others. I have Favre's 2nd year Stadium Club card, graded by Beckett at 8.5. My wife got that for me several years ago on Ebay for my birthday.
In baseball, i have a gamed used bat card with pieces of bat from Reggie Jackson, Eddie Mathews, Frank Robinson and Babe Ruth. There were only 25 of those made, and i pulled it from a pack at WalMart.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:58:25 PM(UTC)
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If you had a Barry Sanders autograph, I'd drive down there right now to get it. I have a picture that has a Barry Sanders signature on it, but I don't know if its real. I used to write the Detroit Lions when I was younger and send them things to have Barry sign. I'd get my items back, and then one of those 8x10 deals with a signature of Barry Sanders on it.

I'd like to meet him in person and have him sign the rookie cards I have of his. Some say that is stupid to do without a certificate, but I don't collect cards for money. I would know it was his and that's all that would matter.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:48:14 PM(UTC)
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I pulled a Shaq autograhp 2 years ago, and i pulled a A-Rod (the baseball player) auto too.
I have pulled autos of Dorsey Levens and Antonio Freeman too.
And an auto of Emmitt Smith. One of my rarest pulls was a autograped "Super Tix" (it has an actual ticket stub from the Super Bowl) signed by Tom Brady. I have Favre's rookie from Stadium Club, Pro Set, Fleer Ultra, Pacific, and others. I have Favre's 2nd year Stadium Club card, graded by Beckett at 8.5. My wife got that for me several years ago on Ebay for my birthday.
In baseball, i have a gamed used bat card with pieces of bat from Reggie Jackson, Eddie Mathews, Frank Robinson and Babe Ruth. There were only 25 of those made, and i pulled it from a pack at WalMart.


WOW!!
your either lucky or buying up the entire stock LOL
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#21 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:11:18 PM(UTC)
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I can just see Leroy standing behind his S.U.V. shaking his head, and looking at what looks like 120 smashed jars of Cheeze Wiz.
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#22 Posted : Friday, September 12, 2008 2:28:59 AM(UTC)
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I can just see Leroy standing behind his S.U.V. shaking his head, and looking at what looks like 120 smashed jars of Cheeze Wiz.


He would have to sell his car. You just can't get rid of a smell like that!
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#23 Posted : Friday, September 12, 2008 8:14:18 AM(UTC)
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If you had a Barry Sanders autograph, I'd drive down there right now to get it. I have a picture that has a Barry Sanders signature on it, but I don't know if its real. I used to write the Detroit Lions when I was younger and send them things to have Barry sign. I'd get my items back, and then one of those 8x10 deals with a signature of Barry Sanders on it.

I'd like to meet him in person and have him sign the rookie cards I have of his. Some say that is stupid to do without a certificate, but I don't collect cards for money. I would know it was his and that's all that would matter.

I'm the same way Zero. In fact, on the wall above my computer i have the Brett Favre "Classic" pre-rookie card i had Favre sign for me when he was coming off the practice field in 1992. I also have a Bart Starr card with it, signed "To Alan, best wishes, Bart Starr". They have no "certificates" with them, but i don't care one bit! They were signed for me, and i got to see it. How can ya beat that? I would never sell them, so what do i care? Many of my recent things i have had signed in person, i have talen my camera along to document it. Like the Ryan Grant signed mini Lambeau Field helmet. But it's NOT so i can sell it. It's only so that i can put the picture with the helmet, thus bringing back the memory for me.
I have signed cards and an 8x10 photo of Ray Nitschke, and i wish i would have had my camera with me that day. I could have had my pic taken with him.
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#24 Posted : Friday, September 12, 2008 8:17:03 AM(UTC)
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RP & WPR.......you guys are VICIOUS!!!! :pottytrain2: LOLOLOL!!!

Actually......Butler could have sold his SUV and made a FORTUNE! A "one of a kind" Cheesey Mobile!
That would have allowed him to sign autographs for FREE, and not have to charge little kids. He'd be able to live off the income just from that vehicle for the rest of his life!
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#25 Posted : Friday, September 12, 2008 8:59:29 AM(UTC)
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RP & WPR.......you guys are VICIOUS!!!! :pottytrain2: LOLOLOL!!!

Actually......Butler could have sold his SUV and made a FORTUNE! A "one of a kind" Cheesey Mobile!
That would have allowed him to sign autographs for FREE, and not have to charge little kids. He'd be able to live off the income just from that vehicle for the rest of his life!


Not true. You were not "Cheesey" back then. Not even "cheesey". You still had on your training cheese at that time. Most likey you were still a run of the mill "cheesy". And they Sir are a run of the mill bunch. There are 1000's maybe even millions of them running around. If LB kept the car in storage (cold storage of course.) until now, well that would be an entirely different story. Or a cheese of a different colour. (note the British spelling for our European friends.)
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