Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
2 Pages12>
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Packnic  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:22:59 PM(UTC)

Rank: Registered
Joined: 6/19/2007(UTC)
Applause Given: 6
Applause Received: 6

Steady leg puts Frost in good standing
Consistency attracted team
Packer Plus writer
Posted: Sept. 9, 2008
Green Bay - Derrick Frost had little reason to think he'd be in Lambeau Field on Monday night.

In fact, he had little reason to think hed be in the National Football League on the first weekend of the season.

Its been a crazy couple of days, Frost said last week. Im kind of excited just to settle in here and get the season rolling.

Frost, a fifth-year punter, was waived by the Washington Redskins in the final roster cut-down on Aug. 30. Two days later, Frost was a Green Bay Packer after general manager Ted Thompson made a move that shocked many by waiving Jon Ryan.

While Ryan averaged 48.0 yards gross and 37.7 yards net on 23 pre-season punts, the Packers apparently believed Frost, now in his fifth season, offers more consistency.

And special teams coordinator Mike Stock offered up something else when he said Frost was much better at getting his punts off more quickly.

Ryan had two punts blocked last season, both coming in the Dec. 23 game at Chicago, a 35-7 loss.

Get-off time has been a real concern for us for two years, Stock said. From the snap, to the catch, to the kick. Absolutely.

Still, Ryans 37.6 net average in 2007 was the Packers best net average in 38 years.

Although he joined the Packers just a week before the opener, as a punter, Frost doesnt have to worry so much about learning a scheme as an offensive or defensive player would have to.

Punting is punting, no matter where you go.

For the most part, Frost said. Sometimes they might ask you to do directional more than other teams. But for the most part, its really the same.

Because of an injury to J.J. Jansen, the Packers also have a new long snapper in Brett Goode. But Stock isnt worried about two of his three main specialists being new.

Its not that these guys havent done this before, Stock said. The punter has punted before in this league and punted well.

Stock took exception to reports that his past relationship with Frost had anything to do with the move.

Ryan had 18 (punts downed) inside the 20 last year, with a 37.6 net, this kid (Frost) had 23 inside the 20 with a 37.4 net, Stock said. Now the net is very close.

Ryan had 11 touchbacks, this kid had seven. Ryan had two punts blocked, this kid had none. This kid punted 75-80 times last year, we punted 60.

In terms of competition and comparison, theyre about the same. In terms of consistency, this kid has been very good.

Frost actually had a 36.4 net last season, not 37.4, but the Packers seem to be more concerned with get-off times and hang times and believe Frost will bring consistency.

He got off to a good start Monday night in the season opener, averaging 45.2 yards gross and 42.6 net for five punts.

Another aspect of the job for Frost is that he also is the holder.

He doesnt expect there to be any problems with that.

Youre limited to so many reps and you have to make the best of it, but I feel like weve had a really good week, Frost said. Mason hasnt missed a kick yet in two days (of practice). Hes a good kicker, and that makes it a lot easier.

While Crosby hit three extra point-kicks and a 42-yard field goal in the second quarter on Monday night, a 33-yard field goal attempt was blocked at the end of the first half.

Frost lost his job in Washington after the Redskins spent a sixth-round pick on Durant Brooks. Frost broke into the NFL as an undrafted free agent with the Cleveland Browns in the 2004 season and then kicked three years for the Redskins.

Hes fully aware his timing was very good.

When NFL Europa folded and teams were hit with a hard cap of 80 for their training camp rosters, many teams did not use extra camp roster spots on specialists. The Packers did not have any in-camp competition for Crosby or Ryan, which made the move to waive Ryan and sign Frost a bit of a surprise.

With the 80-man limit, Frost knows it will now be more difficult for young punters to get looked at in the league.

Its hard to carry two, Frost said. Youre not going to see a lot of that anymore.

Some guys were able to be seen by other teams in exhibition games, but that is not likely to be the case under the new roster rules.

Without the NFL Europe league, how do you show guys? Frost said. I just dont see how thats going to help the league in the long run. But things change from year to year and they figure out ways to solve those problems, so they probably will.

I wanted to just make sure the punting game got some love. Everyone was shocked when Ryan was released. But I really liked what I saw in Derrick Frost. The entire punting unit just seemed better and more in control. The Vikings didn't get much to work with and never got close to blocking one. and i think thats something that goes unnoticed sometimes, but give Mike and Ted credit for never settling and always looking to make the team better, no matter how solid one thing might feel.
Offline djcubez  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:52:32 PM(UTC)

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Gold: 2014

Rank: Senior Member
Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: Madison
Applause Given: 11
Applause Received: 16
I was surprised when I saw him punt. Ryan always seemed to be trying to get a big boot, this guy, Frost, punted directionally toward the sideline. It's something you don't really see much anymore but I love it when punters do it.
Offline MassPackersFan  
#3 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:26:32 AM(UTC)

Rank:: Member
Joined: 9/16/2007(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 7
He really put our (good) gunners in great positions to make plays fast. Thumbs up based on his performance Monday night.
Offline Greg C.  
#4 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:35:33 AM(UTC)

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/9/2008(UTC)
Location: Marquette, Michigan
Applause Received: 48
Yeah, Frost was great on Monday night. A 42.6 yard net is better than anyone has ever done for a full season. (I think someone just broke the 40 mark last year for the first time in NFL history.) Ryan could boom it, but sometimes he would hit a line drive, which is dangerous even if it's a long one. That's the kind of punt that Blackmon returned for the TD. Still, I liked Ryan and I'm glad he's found a job with the Seahawks.
Offline Cheesey  
#5 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:37:56 AM(UTC)

Rank: Honored Member
United States
Joined: 7/28/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 478
Applause Received: 657
Frost looked good for his first game with us. If he can keep that up all season, it will help our D for sure. Field position can be huge in a game.
Offline tromadz  
#6 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:15:43 AM(UTC)

Rank: Registered
Joined: 10/16/2006(UTC)
Applause Given: 3
Applause Received: 34
They call him Frost cuz he has ice in his veins.
#7 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:31:24 PM(UTC)

Rank: Member
United States
Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 169
Applause Received: 110
" said: Go to Quoted Post
They call him Frost cuz he has ice in his veins.

Hmm,Derrick "Iceman" Frost.Has a nice ring to it.
Offline pack_in_black  
#8 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:01:35 PM(UTC)

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/11/2008(UTC)
Location: Colorado
Applause Given: 3
Applause Received: 2
Yeah, gotta love those crunch-time punts. Epic.
Offline Since69  
#9 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:08:38 PM(UTC)

Rank: Registered
Joined: 11/2/2006(UTC)
Applause Given: 83
Applause Received: 83
" said: Go to Quoted Post
" said: Go to Quoted Post
They call him Frost cuz he has ice in his veins.

Hmm,Derrick "Iceman" Frost.Has a nice ring to it.

Nope. Mason Crosby is the IceMan. I've been calling him that since his first game.

How about Derrick "Jack" Frost?

Either way, his ability to punt directionally will really help when we face Devin Hester again...
Offline warhawk  
#10 Posted : Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:59:16 PM(UTC)

Rank: Senior Member
Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 254
I recall Ryan having a problem with the line drive right when we didn't need it and also a little chokey choke in the bigger games. If the guy can just handle the Bears better than Ryan it will be worth something.

Averages can be pretty deceiving and especially with punting stats.

Ryan would boom a few which no doubt helped his average but I would take a guy that can get it down there high and forty plus yards more consistantly before a boomer who shanks/line drives his share. Most of the longer returns off of us last year came after a line drive punt and our guys were still 10+ yards off the return man. A good return is going to happen more than not in that case.

Get the ball up in the air and we stop them cold. And the kick return coverage? Man are they better than in the old days when we let the other team start from our 38 after every kick off. They're lucky to get back to the 20 now.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.



Fan Shout
porky88 (1h) : Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
yooperfan (5h) : Game Day! Happy Thanksgiving!
Zero2Cool (19h) : Micah Hyde is Questionable
Zero2Cool (19h) : TE Martellus Bennett won't play on Thursday night
gbguy20 (23h) : any news on Hyde?
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Yes
Zero2Cool (23-Nov) : Today's Birthdays: polargrizz (61)
Smokey (22-Nov) : Game On in CHAT
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : false start on Newton was not called
hardrocker950 (22-Nov) : Skins are keeping pace with Carolina
buckeyepackfan (22-Nov) : GAMEDAY! GO! PACK! GO!
buckeyepackfan (22-Nov) : GOOD MORNING PACKER FANS!
yooperfan (22-Nov) : Game Day! Biggest game of the year to date.
yooperfan (21-Nov) : Loved seeing Ohio State get beaten
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Who ya got in tonight's game?
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Damn! Jared Abbrederis (ribs) is going to be several weeks.
Mucky Tundra (18-Nov) : haha get rekt
gbguy20 (18-Nov) : thataboy kevin
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Looking forward to more intelligent commentary from Aikman. Lucky we get a good crew again.
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Feel free to frequent them. I couldn't care less about your accusations.
texaspackerbacker (18-Nov) : there are a lot of places that don't have megalomanic moderators sticking their noses in/deleting posts/shit like that.
Wade (17-Nov) : since I don't have time to post much, and less time to write, it's a moot point for me.
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : When people can talk politics and religion without putting one another down, maybe then. Otherwise, take it elsewhere and leave it there.
texaspackerbacker (17-Nov) : oh I see. Bring it on. I'm getting my fix of both in some other forums, but always glad to comment if something gets started here too.
Wade (17-Nov) : and no...don't miss miss talking religion tho.
Wade (17-Nov) : Tex....the "think about it" box yesterday (over on the right side of this page) had a Roosevelt quote yesterday.
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : How ya'all doing in your Pick'em?
texaspackerbacker (17-Nov) : where did that come from? missing politics, are ya?
Wade (16-Nov) : btw...eleanor roosevelt was a pinhead. people matter more than either events or ideas; so great minds are better focused on people.
Mucky Tundra (16-Nov) : booo! I don't want to be an old fart!
Zero2Cool (16-Nov) : Today's Birthdays: Mucky Tundra (31)
Zero2Cool (16-Nov) : Texans win tonight is going to make me 1 correct pick closer to the top!!
Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : Lacy inactive today (groin)
flep (15-Nov) : Gameday!!! See you in chat later!!!
Zero2Cool (14-Nov) : Why doesn't porky88 post hardly ever anymore? Same with Pack93z and few other former regs. WTF!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

Road To Super Bowl 50
Sunday, Sep 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Sep 20 @ 7:30 PM
Monday, Sep 28 @ 7:30 PM
Sunday, Oct 4 @ 3:25 PM
at 49ers
Sunday, Oct 11 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Oct 18 @ 3:25 PM
Sunday, Oct 25 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Sunday, Nov 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Broncos
Sunday, Nov 8 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Sunday, Nov 15 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Nov 22 @ 3:25 PM
at Vikings
Thursday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
Thursday, Dec 3 @ 7:25 PM
at Lions
Sunday, Dec 13 @ 3:25 PM
Sunday, Dec 20 @ 3:05 PM
at Raiders
Sunday, Dec 27 @ 3:25 PM
at Cardinals
Sunday, Jan 3 @ 12:00 PM

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
19m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / flep

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / gbguy20

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / QCHuskerFan