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Trippster  
#41 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 8:36:40 PM(UTC)
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Actually, you do not pay his salary. Whomever the owner of the team he suits up for pays his salary. We just pay the price of the tickets/merchandise. The only info we 'deserve' to know, is how much those players are getting paid. Which we do.


Why do you deserve to know their salaries? Should sutomers of my bank be able to know how much I make just becasue I have entered into a legal agreement to work for the bank? Don't think so.

We know the jist of the salaries because it is leaked to the reporters. Teams and players share for negotiating reasons.
Trippster  
#42 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 8:38:28 PM(UTC)
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We as fans don't deserve an answer.....period.


Given the fact we fans pay his salary, yes, in fact, we do.

After listening to Jay Glazer's interview on Chris Myers and Steve Hartman's Fox Sports Radio show, I still don't believe Favre will actually suit up in purple this year.


Actually, you do not pay his salary. Whomever the owner of the team he suits up for pays his salary. We just pay the price of the tickets/merchandise. .


Where do the owners get the money to pay their salary? Tickets and merchandising


Its the same as saying to a cop I pay your salary


not the same LT. we HAVE to pay taxes which in turn pays the cop. We do NOT have to pay for the tickets and merchandise.

Government/private sector......big differences.
Nonstopdrivel  
#43 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 8:46:26 PM(UTC)
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Should sutomers of my bank be able to know how much I make just becasue I have entered into a legal agreement to work for the bank? Don't think so.


Are you a public figure? I didn't think so.

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not the same LT. we HAVE to pay taxes which in turn pays the cop. We do NOT have to pay for the tickets and merchandise.


Actually, this supports LT's argument, not yours. We choose to pay for these players' salaries; therefore, they are accountable to us, just as the owner of a restaurant or the cashier at Target is accountable to us, the customers.

And again, these players are public figures. They are in a totally different realm from you as a private citizen. Whether they like it or not (and I personally wouldn't), they have a reduced expectation of privacy. If they don't like it, they need to bitch to the Supreme Court.
Zero2Cool  
#44 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 8:47:21 PM(UTC)
It was not Favre's choice to be carted around. He enjoyed the fans more than most understand. He said something about the kids love the game for the game, not for the other stuff in it and he always liked seeing that look in kids eyes.
Formo  
#45 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 11:47:38 PM(UTC)
Yes, I know we, as fans, pay for the jersey's, tickets, etc.. By choice. And, yes, I do know that in turn that money lines the owners' pockets, who in turn use that money to pay their players' contracts.

That is why we deserve to know how much a player makes.

But to make an outrageous claim that we as fans deserve to know why any player does what he does.. Whether it be NFL involved or in his private life... is just that. Outrageous. And rude, IMO.

Funny thing is.. In this circumstance, even if we did get the answer from Favre as to why this stuff is still popping up in the media... How many people do you think would actually believe him? And burn his 'image' at the stake? More so than not, I'd think.

The only people that deserve to know why a player chooses what he does as far as the NFL is concerned is the teams' owners/front office/coaches. Not us fans.
IronMan  
#46 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 11:56:37 PM(UTC)
Favre!
Nonstopdrivel  
#47 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:11:09 AM(UTC)
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But to make an outrageous claim that we as fans deserve to know why any player does what he does.. Whether it be NFL involved or in his private life... is just that. Outrageous. And rude, IMO.


I find this to be a gross misrepresentation of the position we're advocating here. We (or at least I) are not saying we're entitled to some sort of expos of the motives of the parties involved. I do not think, however, that a clear, unambiguous description of the situation is too much to ask. Is he coming back or not? Has he actually signed a contract or not? Is he currently in contact with Vikings players? If not, why do so many players seem to think he's coming back? A clear "yes" or "no" and none of this "At this time" prevarication. Surely it cannot be so difficult to give an answer that is honest for more than 12 hours at a time.

Silence is a necessity when you're accused of a crime. In this situation, it only fans the flames of media hype. And both Brett Favre and Bus Cook know this full well.
Heatherthepackgirl  
#48 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:54:30 AM(UTC)
For cripes sake!! Who the heck cares, if Favre plays, then he plays, if he dont then he dont, I for one would love to see him suit up again and I will support him. Favre is always a big story and the media runs away with it, we dont know what is true or what is false, we are only guessing. I for one have better things to do then worry about Favre coming back. I for one would be the happiest if he decides to return and I for one dont care if it takes him til the middle of the season to make up his mind. It dont effect me either way.
Nonstopdrivel  
#49 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02:34 AM(UTC)
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we dont know what is true or what is false,


We would, if the parties involved were simply forthright about this whole thing. :pottytrain2:
Heatherthepackgirl  
#50 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:04:30 AM(UTC)
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we dont know what is true or what is false,


We would, if the parties involved were simply forthright about this whole thing. :pottytrain2:


Hay I see your butt. lol :downtown:
Nonstopdrivel  
#51 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:08:13 AM(UTC)
And I see your boobs! Which is the more appealing spectacle? :D
Formo  
#52 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:09:59 AM(UTC)
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But to make an outrageous claim that we as fans deserve to know why any player does what he does.. Whether it be NFL involved or in his private life... is just that. Outrageous. And rude, IMO.


I find this to be a gross misrepresentation of the position we're advocating here. We (or at least I) are not saying we're entitled to some sort of expos of the motives of the parties involved. I do not think, however, that a clear, unambiguous description of the situation is too much to ask. Is he coming back or not? Has he actually signed a contract or not? Is he currently in contact with Vikings players? If not, why do so many players seem to think he's coming back? A clear "yes" or "no" and none of this "At this time" prevarication. Surely it cannot be so difficult to give an answer that is honest for more than 12 hours at a time.

Silence is a necessity when you're accused of a crime. In this situation, it only fans the flames of media hype. And both Brett Favre and Bus Cook know this full well.


I see what you are saying.. And here's the deal:

Favre, two years ago, came out and said, "I am retired. I feel like I can still physically play, but mentally I don't think so, so I am retiring." That's a straight shot of an answer as one can get. Turns out, he changed his mind (which is his full right to do so). But, the media and fans threw him under the bus because he 'lied'. His reputation took a hit, because of it.

Favre and Cook learned their lesson. No more 'straight shooting' unless it's 100% positive. Hense the 'At this time' statements. Sorry, I don't see that as a 'prevarication'.
Zero2Cool  
#53 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:25:17 AM(UTC)
lmao ... no more straight shooting ... like they have been shooting straight at anytime ... you the funny!!

Now, if you're saying that when Brett was asked at any given time he just stated how he felt, okay, sure. But Cook has never been straight with his shooting.
buckeyepackfan  
#54 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:42:42 AM(UTC)
What amazes me is everytime there is a story which mentions Brett's name, it turns into a 4-5 6 or maybe more page article on this forum.

Those of you who say the media is whoring out Brett's name, should look into the mirror. There are some who will at any given chance take a shot at Brett, because they feel he has betrayed them in some way.

Everyone and I mean everyone on this forum knew Brett was not going to stay retired last year, the big question was who he was going to play for.

That question was answered in due time.

Why let any of this effect you as a Packer fan, the Packers are now removed from the situation, the team looked good it's 1st pre-season game, why not talk about the upcoming game.

Everyone who knows anything about football knows that as soon as a teams starter gets hurt this pre-season, the first person who will be called is Brett Favre.

How many time has Vinney T. came out of retirement?

I know it is tough, because Brett was such a legend in Green Bay, to actually think he would want to play someone else, but he is what he is, a football player, who still has the itch to play.

I hate the thought of Brett playing in Miinesota, but if they are the ones who win out, then so be it.

Brett will do what he thinkls is best for him and his family, nobody elses opinion matters.

Finishing up I see that some of you have forgotten Brett's first name, now he is just FAVRE, like he is some kind of criminal.

Why argue about trivial things nobody on this forum has control over?

The Packers have turned the corner,most on this forum need to also, I myself will remember Brett playing like any kid in the backyard plays, and if he does decide to play again this year, I'll be watching!
ILikeThePackers39  
#55 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:42:48 AM(UTC)
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Favre!
longtimefan  
#56 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:55:36 AM(UTC)
wouldnt it be funny if Brett flew to Minny today?
MassPackersFan  
#57 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:12:11 PM(UTC)
And signed today?
joym13  
#58 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:12:35 PM(UTC)
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wouldnt it be funny if Brett flew to Minny today?


That would be downright hilarious :tongue3: (and yes I've heard the news today)
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