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Offline Greg C.  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 1:55:19 PM(UTC)
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Here's some interesting stuff from Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback column in Sports Illustrated this morning:

What I Learned About Football This Week That I Didn't Know Last Week

Aaron Rodgers throws with more velocity now than Favre does.

Not my opinion; it's the opinion of Greg Jennings, who caught balls from Favre his first two years in the league and is in his first season with Rodgers. It goes against the grain of everything we've heard about Favre, who we still think of as Mr. Fastball, and the supposedly average-armed Mister Rodgers.

"Brett threw a variety of balls,'' Jennings told me the other day. "His biggest thing was his ability to lead you into where he wanted you with something on the ball. The biggest difference between Brett and Aaron now is Brett threw with a lot of touch. Don't get me wrong. He had some times when he could really throw it hard. If he was trying to drill one in there, he would gun it. Aaron throws with a lot of velocity, a little more velocity, with good timing.''

The one thing, naturally, Jennings is still establishing with Rodgers is chemistry. "Brett anticipates a lot sooner,'' Jennings said. "He's been playing so long, been around defenses so long, that he dissects defenses quicker. He probably knows where he's going with the ball earlier than Aaron.''

And Jennings sees one other difference, from the Packer huddle.

"Brett's a little more loose in there. You know, not that Aaron's tight; he's fine. But Brett was passing gas in the huddle.''
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Offline Roddyboy  
#2 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 2:02:39 PM(UTC)
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Yeah..

"Anticipates a lot sooner...AND passes gas in the huddle".

Beat that, Mr. Rodgers.
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Offline Rios39  
#3 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 2:12:39 PM(UTC)
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Yeah..

"Anticipates a lot sooner...AND passes gas in the huddle".

Beat that, Mr. Rodgers.


That's an experience thing, obviously the first thing lol
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Offline vegOmatic  
#4 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 2:28:38 PM(UTC)
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HOF quarterbacks can't fart because their poop don't stink. :wickedfart:
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Offline MassPackersFan  
#5 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 2:31:28 PM(UTC)
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I liked Favre's on-field persona as much as anybody, but maybe it's time we had a little more intensity in the huddle. Too many late game turnovers off careless passes. Too many 2 minute drills where we didn't manage the clock well and ran out of time. Playing loose is good, but sometimes playing 100% focused is better.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#6 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 9:32:12 PM(UTC)
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I'd like to add something.

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Maybe rocky times will be coming for Aaron Rodgers, but when?

"It's only two games,'' he cautioned via the cell phone Sunday evening. "But I hope the fans buy myself and this team.''

Buy him? You kidding? If Rodgers were a stock, he'd be Microsoft in 1991. His two-game stat line:
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W-L     Comp.-Att.     Pct.     Yards     TD     Int     Sacks     Rating
2-0     42-60         .700     506     4     0     1     117.8


In the same week the first pick in the 2005 draft, Alex Smith, went on IR and likely ended his busted career with San Francisco, the 24th pick in that same draft, Rodgers, began making a name for himself. Rodgers looks confident. He throws with a soft touch to some excellent receivers -- Greg Jennings is going to be a big star -- and the QB doesn't get rattled when things like blowing a 21-0 lead happen, as the Pack did in Detroit. And he is not surprised. "In my mind, I've been preparing for this for three years. I've been dreaming of this for three years,'' he said.

Rodgers is in a weird spot with Favre. At the end of last season, the formerly chilly relationship got warm, with Rodgers going to Favre's home for dinner. But a frost settled over the friendship in the offseason, when Favre retired and then came back, hopeful of getting his old job back, a job the Packers had given to Rodgers. When they both went to the ESPYs in Los Angeles, they didn't connect, even though they were in the same audience. I asked if the relationship was harmed forever.

"I sure hope not,'' Rodgers said. "I have so much admiration for Brett. I would love for the relationship to go back to what it was.''


The last line... interesting...
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Offline Cheesey  
#7 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 9:35:38 PM(UTC)
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HOF quarterbacks can't fart because their poop don't stink. :wickedfart:

Oh.....they fart alright.........but it smells like flowers!!! :thumbright: :wickedfart:
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Offline Greg C.  
#8 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 9:40:14 PM(UTC)
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"I sure hope not,'' Rodgers said. "I have so much admiration for Brett. I would love for the relationship to go back to what it was.''


The last line... interesting...


Yeah, that was from Peter King's column today in Sports Illustrated. I think he deserves credit.

I agree that it is an interesting line at the end. Right now, I can see why Favre doesn't want to be buddies with the guy who has the job that was his for 16 years and that he wishes was still his. But maybe after a few years things will normalize again. Right now Favre has to be thinking Jets, Jets, Jets, because that's who he's playing for.
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Offline wpr  
#9 Posted : Monday, September 15, 2008 11:12:51 PM(UTC)
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It is amazing. Roddy think if someone pats Aaron Rodgers on the back that means they are peaing on BF at the same time.
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Offline Pack93z  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:38:57 AM(UTC)
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Interesting stuff from Jennings, but I sure wish the players would stay away from that type of comments.. let Rodgers continue to build his own rep.. the media does this enough and need no encouragement from the players. Jennings did a fine job complimenting both equally.. the next player that tries it might not pull it off with the same moxie.

I sure hope I don't see a weekly line comparing the two.. they have different core players around them and any comparisons only carry so much weight.. I have been impressed with the way both have played so far this season considering the circumstances both had to deal with.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline RaiderPride  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:43:05 AM(UTC)
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If we want to compare the two let's do it right.

Compare Brett's first two starts in the N.F.L to Chico's first two starts in the N.F.L.

Everything else is folly.

The whole world knows what Brett has done, but no one knows what Chico will do in the future. Right now... The only comparison as far as "Stats" is Chico and Brett, head to head, in their first two starts,

Oh.... I Reckon Chico is doing just fine.
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Offline TheEngineer  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:03:44 AM(UTC)
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If we want to compare the two let's do it right.

Compare Brett's first two starts in the N.F.L to Chico's first two starts in the N.F.L.

Everything else is folly.

The whole world knows what Brett has done, but no one knows what Chico will do in the future. Right now... The only comparison as far as "Stats" is Chico and Brett, head to head, in their first two starts,

Oh.... I Reckon Chico is doing just fine.


I don't know. Even comparing their first two games is not particularly useful as the debate is generally due to the trade of Brett Favre for starting Rodgers, and hence the "what can you do for me now?" attitude.

And even if this wasn't an issue, the league is far different now than 1992, as well as the coaching and the other players. In my opinion a fairer comparison would be the relative performance of Rodgers and Favre vs the league average, either now or first 2 starts.
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Offline Cheesey  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:58:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
If we want to compare the two let's do it right.

Compare Brett's first two starts in the N.F.L to Chico's first two starts in the N.F.L.

Everything else is folly.

The whole world knows what Brett has done, but no one knows what Chico will do in the future. Right now... The only comparison as far as "Stats" is Chico and Brett, head to head, in their first two starts,

Oh.... I Reckon Chico is doing just fine.

Even thats not fair. Favre was thrown into the fire, while Rodgers has had 3 years to learn the offense.
But i don't care either way........I love Favre and Rodgers. Favre was fun to watch, and helped to take us back to being PROUD of the Packers. So far, Rodgers has been great, and it looks like we might just get back to the top of the hill again.
I'm THRILLED about the Packers possibilities this year and beyond!
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Offline wpr  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:22:24 AM(UTC)
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I would actually prefer NOT to compare the two at all. No need.
Loved Brett for what he once was to GREN BAY. Love the idea that he could bring them a 2nd round pick.
Love Aaron for what he now does for GB.
Nothing else really matters.
No use debating if Brett would have done a better job than Aaron in GB in 2008. It ain't going to happpen so it just doesn't matter.
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Offline Cheesey  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:28:33 AM(UTC)
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I would actually prefer NOT to compare the two at all. No need.
Loved Brett for what he once was to GREN BAY. Love the idea that he could bring them a 2nd round pick.
Love Aaron for what he now does for GB.
Nothing else really matters.
No use debating if Brett would have done a better job than Aaron in GB in 2008. It ain't going to happpen so it just doesn't matter.

I agree WPR.
Rodgers is "our guy" now, so you can compare all you want, it doesn't matter. But that won't stop people or the media from doing it.
Maybe if Favre had still been here we would be 0-2 right now. It's ALL just "what if's" anyway, as there's no way to PROVE any of it.
I myself want to keep the memories packed away, and concentrate on what IS, not what was or what it might have been.
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