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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:24:38 PM(UTC)
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Give me a team that tackles solidly on every play over a team who has to resort to stripping the ball to get the ball back. Solidify on the important stuff first before fooling around with the glitzy gimmicks.
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#27 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 4:26:38 PM(UTC)
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#28 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 4:37:38 PM(UTC)
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It's hilarious, really. That '96 team was the #1 offense and #1 defense in the NFL for the year.
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Offline ILikeThePackers39  
#29 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 4:46:08 PM(UTC)
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When the LB (Matthews) just takes the ball out of the RB's hands, that isn't a fluke. He wanted the ball, he took it. A fluke is like the pass play in week one that led to Denver's win.

Characterizing that play as a fluke just exposes the writer's bias.
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Offline zombieslayer  
#30 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 4:51:01 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
From a chat with Vikings beat writer Chip Scoggins.

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Chip Scoggins: Favre said after the game that this might be the best team he's ever played on. Obviously it's still early, but you can see he has developed a nice rhythm with all his receivers. The throw down the sideline to Rice was a good example. He placed that perfectly on his back hip/shoulder.


This might be somewhat standard with Favre, but it just really struck me the wrong way. If I recall correctly, he played on some team with Reggie White, Desmond Howard etc. One of the best defenses in recent history combined with one of the best offensen and an amazing special teams unit and he goes out and makes a statement like this.

I don't mean for this to turn into a Brett Favre bash thread (Although seen the history of these threads, it'll be just that soon enough), but this is either very stupid, or he's really messing with this GB fans.


Said for morale purposes. I immediately dismissed it.

MN has a top notch O, but it doesn't have the D the '96 Packers did, nor did it have someone half as good as Desmond Howard.

The O however may turn out to be better. How to rank it? Simple. See at the end of the year who scores more points - the '96 Packers or the '09 Vikings. The '96 Packers scored 28.5 points per game. The '09 Vikings are scoring over 30 points per game. We'll see if they can keep it up. The Ravens game will be a good measure if whether or not this team is for real.
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Offline zombieslayer  
#31 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 4:53:14 PM(UTC)
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My point is that this is damn right near disrespectfull. Our 1996 SB team had a better O-line, a better overall defense and better receivers. He now has a better RB and he crowns them the best team he's ever played with?

Does that mean that Jared Allen is as as good as Reggie White? Pat Williams is as good as Gilbert Brown? Visanthe Shiancoe is as good as Mark Chmura? Doug Evans, Leroy Butler, you get my point. Or does he make this statement based on Peterson alone?

I asume he didn't take in account the coaching staff, because Chilly can't touch Holmgren, Frazier's great, but no Shurmur and Bevell has a lot of work to do to be compared with Lewis.


Actually Rock, the '09 Vikings OL is better than the '96 Pack OL. Best OLs Favre had were with Mike Sherman, not the '90s OLs.
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Offline Pack93z  
#32 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 4:59:47 PM(UTC)
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Favre saying "this" team is the best he has ever been on? He has stated that numerous times in the later years with Green Bay and now Minnesota.

It has gotten to the point, I am suspect of anything he states.. hell of a player on the field. Best analogy is he would make one hell of a car salesman.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#33 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 5:01:25 PM(UTC)
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'96 Packers OL was better than the '09 Vikings OL.
There's no discussion there at all.
However one could argue that the '96 OL was worse when given the fact that Vikings QB was sacked 40 times that season. Vikings QB is on pace to get sacked 35 times this year.

Any OL that can make holes for someone like Edgar Bennet, deserves some props.

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That was one stellar OL from left to right. The left side of the Vikings OL is beasty, but the right side is weaksie.
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Offline Gravedigga  
#34 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 1:47:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
When the LB (Matthews) just takes the ball out of the RB's hands, that isn't a fluke. He wanted the ball, he took it. A fluke is like the pass play in week one that led to Denver's win.

Characterizing that play as a fluke just exposes the writer's bias.


All I know is the Vikings victory over the Packers was not a fluke. At almost no point in the game did the Packers threaten to win the game. It was a total domination other than a couple of blown coverages and a well planned strip and td return.
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#35 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 1:55:23 PM(UTC)
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When the LB (Matthews) just takes the ball out of the RB's hands, that isn't a fluke. He wanted the ball, he took it. A fluke is like the pass play in week one that led to Denver's win.

Characterizing that play as a fluke just exposes the writer's bias.


All I know is the Vikings victory over the Packers was not a fluke. At almost no point in the game did the Packers threaten to win the game. It was a total domination other than a couple of blown coverages and a well planned strip and td return.

OMG THAT WAS WHAT TWO WEEKS AGO! GET THE FUCK OVER STATING THE OBVIOUS! WHATS NEXT, YOU GONNA TELL US THAT THE SKY IS BLUE?

less than 10 minutes to kickoff and this is the shit posted? wow
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