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Offline Rockmolder  
#1 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 2:30:08 PM(UTC)
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Fentress: Anger of some Green Bay fans toward Brett Favre misguided

By Aaron Fentress, The Oregonian

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A Green Bay fan burns a Brett Favre No. 4 Packers jersey. Another puts a jersey on a doormat. Others act even more childish toward their former hero.

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But the disdain is misguided. Wheres the disgust towards Packers management?

Green Bay fans live in denial. They are hanging on to some delusional, invented belief that Favre owed it to them to never play for the hated Minnesota Vikings, even when their team no longer wanted him.

Huh?

Green Bay fans no doubt love their franchise more than they do any one single player, even Favre. But the fact that many hold a grudge against Favre for playing for Minnesota, which defeated the Packers 30-23 on Monday night, seems preposterous.

It wasnt Favre's decision to ultimately end up in Minnesota over Green Bay. He sought to wear green and gold again. If anything, Packers fans should be upset with general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy. They, more than anyone else, are responsible for Mondays debacle.

Yes, Aaron Rodgers is a fine quarterback, good enough to maybe one day lead the Packers to the Super Bowl. But Favre is Favre. And the same passion that causes Packers fans to destroy No. 4 jerseys should have led them in 2008 to demand that the Packers bring back Favre at all costs prior to the 2008 season.

Sure, Favre "retired" and then unretired over and over. And yes, he threw that horrid interception against the Giants in the NFC championship game. But Favres only crime is being indecisive about giving up something he loves. In the end, isnt that the type of competitor youd want leading your team?

favrerodgers.JPGAP Photo/Morry GashMinnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre (4) and Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers meet after the Vikings beat the Packers 30-23 on Monday night. Favre proved last year with the New York Jets that he could still play until an injury slowed him down late in the season. And look at him now. Hes got the Vikings at 4-0 with eight touchdown passes and one interception on the season.

Monday he completed 24 of 31 passes for 271 yards and three touchdowns with no interceptions, a performance that included several vintage, breathtaking throws.

None of this should be shocking. He had a MVP-caliber season in 2007 with Green Bay. And a team should never tell a MVP-caliber quarterback get away under any circumstances.

What does Green Bay have to show for its troubles? An 8-12 record over the last two seasons. Favre is 13-7, 12-3 when healthy. Granted, Rodgers has not been the problem in Green Bay. It would be unfair to lay the Packers demise at his feet.

But Favre has proven in the past that he can lead his team to victories when the defense is suspect. Rodgers has not.

Rodgers put up 384 yards on Monday. But he was sacked eight times. Some of those were his fault. Some can be blamed on a poor and battered offensive line. But does anyone truly believe that if the two quarterbacks switched teams on Monday that Green Bay would not have won?

Thompsons move not to bring back Favre was a power play. It had little to do with Rodgers development. Thompson and McCarthy wanted to move forward without the legend of Favre hanging over their heads. Understandable. But regrettable.

On Monday, Favre became the only NFL player to have won against all 32 NFL teams. That distinction could have been avoided.

But dont blame the man who has given Green Bay fans countless thrills. Blame those whose names youll barely remember a decade from now.
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Offline Rockmolder  
#2 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 2:31:27 PM(UTC)
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Just shows in what kind of reality some appear to life.

I especially like this one.

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Some can be blamed on a poor and battered offensive line. But does anyone truly believe that if the two quarterbacks switched teams on Monday that Green Bay would not have won?
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Offline mi_keys  
#3 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 2:40:48 PM(UTC)
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Just shows in what kind of reality some appear to life.

I especially like this one.

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Some can be blamed on a poor and battered offensive line. But does anyone truly believe that if the two quarterbacks switched teams on Monday that Green Bay would not have won?


Yep, with that line the writer proved he's about as delusional and psychotic as the fans that are burning their old Favre jerseys.
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Offline MassPackersFan  
#4 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 2:58:27 PM(UTC)
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They are hanging on to some delusional, invented belief that Favre owed it to them to never play for the hated Minnesota Vikings, even when their team no longer wanted him.


Dear God, why do people keep passing this off as THE story of what happened between GB and Favre? The retirement/unretirement thing was an absolute joke, and Favre received cracks about it from every media direction. Now it was Green Bay who was guilty of dumping him? Ha.
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Offline Cheesey  
#5 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 5:23:26 PM(UTC)
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Obviously the guy that wrote that crap is the type to not bother with FACTS. Just another one of those "Favre is GOD" people.
I love Favre for what he did in his time here. But HE chose to leave, and the Packers let him leave.
I STILL think Favre wanted out, and wanted to make the Packers look bad. I think he dislikes TT, and wanted him to take the fall. He wanted to look "squeaky clean" to the fans.
But some of us actually THINK for ourselves.
So he's a Viking now. He's on the "enemy" team. So i won't cheer for him as long as he is on a different team. Why? I'm a PACKER fan. I was LONG before BF came here, and will be till i die.
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Offline zombieslayer  
#6 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 6:05:21 PM(UTC)
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Cheesey - I completey appreciate your viewpoint and understand it's a majority here, but I'll always cheer for former Packers. Unless of course they're playing us.

For example, there's talk about trading Kampy. No, of course it won't happen. But let's just say it does. Whatever team he goes on I'll hope he gets 20 sacks a year. Except I hope he gets a big fat zero tackles when playing us.

Just like if Woody left. I hope he'd play 3 more years and gets 10+ INTs a year and makes the Hall of Fame, but Driver/Jennings burn him for a TD a piece when we play his team.

I don't understand how anyone can hate a former Packer.

Also, as far as I'm concerned, MN isn't the enemy. The Cows and the Broncos are. They're the ones who kept us from getting more SB rings in the 90s, when we were in the position to do it. I'd love a rematch of '97. That SB left such a bad taste in my mouth and I have NEVER recovered from it.
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Offline Rockmolder  
#7 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 6:35:15 PM(UTC)
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Just shows in what kind of reality some appear to life.

I especially like this one.

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Some can be blamed on a poor and battered offensive line. But does anyone truly believe that if the two quarterbacks switched teams on Monday that Green Bay would not have won?


Yep, with that line the writer proved he's about as delusional and psychotic as the fans that are burning their old Favre jerseys.


I agree. There are two extremes here and those people are the ones getting all the media attention, it seems, making it look like at least half the fanbase is made up out of utterly retarded people.
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Offline Formo  
#8 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 6:59:54 PM(UTC)
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Just shows in what kind of reality some appear to life.

I especially like this one.

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Some can be blamed on a poor and battered offensive line. But does anyone truly believe that if the two quarterbacks switched teams on Monday that Green Bay would not have won?


Yep, with that line the writer proved he's about as delusional and psychotic as the fans that are burning their old Favre jerseys.


I agree. There are two extremes here and those people are the ones getting all the media attention, it seems, making it look like at least half the fanbase is made up out of utterly retarded people.


Well... If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish... :thumbleft:
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#9 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 7:19:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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Just shows in what kind of reality some appear to life.

I especially like this one.

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Some can be blamed on a poor and battered offensive line. But does anyone truly believe that if the two quarterbacks switched teams on Monday that Green Bay would not have won?


Yep, with that line the writer proved he's about as delusional and psychotic as the fans that are burning their old Favre jerseys.


I agree. There are two extremes here and those people are the ones getting all the media attention, it seems, making it look like at least half the fanbase is made up out of utterly retarded people.


Well... If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish... :thumbleft:


Just admit the movie Fargo took place in your state, don't ya know! :icon_smile:
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Offline Cheesey  
#10 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 8:00:50 PM(UTC)
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Zombie......I don't "hate" Favre.
But i just won't cheer for him when he's on the Vikings. Anymore then i did for Longwell or Sharper when they were there. Does that mean i hate them? Nope. They just arn't a part of "my" team anymore, so my loyalty stays in Green Bay. Doesn't mean i hate ANY of them.
There are alot of people that feel the same as i do, and get thrown in the "hate" pile because we won't cheer for Favre while he is in that ugly purple.
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