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Offline Rockmolder  
#51 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:32:58 PM(UTC)
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The two decent teams they've played have been home games. This 3 week stretch they have coming up will be very revealing.

Exactly, we'll know the true face of the Vikings after this Baltimore game.


Wait.

Wasn't that what you all were saying right before the Vikings played the Packers? What?


Don't play ignorant. Your strengths where our weaknesses. I pretty much figured you'd win after the first weeks. It surprises me that the final score was that close.

That said, I picked Baltimore this week. Let's be honest, you haven't played a great team. Maybe we'll be just that when our O-line gets together and the defense gets in sync, but for now, we're not. I think that Favre is destined to have one of his down games soon. The Ravens defense is proned to have one of their better games soon. Their secondary is lacking, but your O-line isn't too great in pass protection. I asume that that aggresive defense will wreak havoc on you.

Maybe it's a little wishfull thinking, as well. Can't wait to hit PP.O if you lose. Especially if Favre throws a pick or three. Marrdro, Mars... it's going to be fun.
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#52 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:07:45 PM(UTC)
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The two decent teams they've played have been home games. This 3 week stretch they have coming up will be very revealing.

Exactly, we'll know the true face of the Vikings after this Baltimore game.


Wait.

Wasn't that what you all were saying right before the Vikings played the Packers? What?


Don't play ignorant. Your strengths where our weaknesses. I pretty much figured you'd win after the first weeks. It surprises me that the final score was that close.

That said, I picked Baltimore this week. Let's be honest, you haven't played a great team. Maybe we'll be just that when our O-line gets together and the defense gets in sync, but for now, we're not. I think that Favre is destined to have one of his down games soon. The Ravens defense is proned to have one of their better games soon. Their secondary is lacking, but your O-line isn't too great in pass protection. I asume that that aggresive defense will wreak havoc on you.

Maybe it's a little wishfull thinking, as well. Can't wait to hit PP.O if you lose. Especially if Favre throws a pick or three. Marrdro, Mars... it's going to be fun.


Sorry Rock but what is bolded in your comment has me confused, there is alot on here saying thats why Favre does so well because as some have stated hell if they Rodgers has 7 secs to throw all the time he would be a top qb. Damn phone calls in the middle of typing made me lose my thoughts lol.
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#53 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:34:47 PM(UTC)
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The two decent teams they've played have been home games. This 3 week stretch they have coming up will be very revealing.

Exactly, we'll know the true face of the Vikings after this Baltimore game.


Wait.

Wasn't that what you all were saying right before the Vikings played the Packers? What?


Don't play ignorant. Your strengths where our weaknesses. I pretty much figured you'd win after the first weeks. It surprises me that the final score was that close.

That said, I picked Baltimore this week. Let's be honest, you haven't played a great team. Maybe we'll be just that when our O-line gets together and the defense gets in sync, but for now, we're not. I think that Favre is destined to have one of his down games soon. The Ravens defense is proned to have one of their better games soon. Their secondary is lacking, but your O-line isn't too great in pass protection. I asume that that aggresive defense will wreak havoc on you.

Maybe it's a little wishfull thinking, as well. Can't wait to hit PP.O if you lose. Especially if Favre throws a pick or three. Marrdro, Mars... it's going to be fun.


Sorry Rock but what is bolded in your comment has me confused, there is alot on here saying thats why Favre does so well because as some have stated hell if they Rodgers has 7 secs to throw all the time he would be a top qb. Damn phone calls in the middle of typing made me lose my thoughts lol.


They have faced the Browns, the Lions, the Rams, the 49ers and a Packers team focused on stopping the run. They still gave up 11 sacks over 5 games. 9 on the first 3. None against that run stopping, non-pressuring GB defense.

Their O-line isn't too great in pass protection. Esecially that right side. It's just that defenses have been focusing in on the running game or have been lacking real pass rushes. He has had enough time, often by defenses not blitzing, but this aggressive Ravens defense will be coming.

Maybe I'm just wrong and that offensive line really isn't as bad as I think it is, but just look at it yourself for a bit, Dhazer. You saw yourself why he had 7-8 seconds.
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#54 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:16:35 PM(UTC)
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I was using your comment to kinda stir the pot to the others when they said he had a great line, nothing against you
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#55 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:44:44 PM(UTC)
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The two decent teams they've played have been home games. This 3 week stretch they have coming up will be very revealing.


True.

But...going off on a tangent...
The problem I have with making this "favre hasn't played anyone yet" argument as a _Packer_ fan, though, is that the Packers really havent faced that much tougher of a schedule. Okay, the Bengals this year look like something other than the Bungles.

Minnesota looked better than GB when head to head. And won.
Minnesota looked better against Rams than GB.
Packers beat Chicago, Vikings beat SF -- SF's the better team.
Packers lost to Bengals. Better than Bungles, but little early to anoint Cincy as great team just yet.
Vikings beat two creampuffs.

If we say Favre (or the VIkings more generally) hasn't demonstrated anything much just yet...but then we must say that Rodgers (or the Packers) has shown even less yet.

And that's a bummer.


Good point Wade. What worries me is the fact that our second half of schedule appears to be more challenging than these first few weeks. We really need to rack up some wins before we hit the stretch of games against good opponents.
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#56 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 1:38:12 AM(UTC)
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Bears > 49ers

Beyond that, I agreed with wade's post.
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#57 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 11:49:33 PM(UTC)
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Like Zombie I don't feel bad cheering for Favre as it has nothing to do with cheering against Green Bay. I still obviously support the Pack first but I think there's 2 kinds of fans, those who just cheer for the helmet and those who are nore prone to pull for individuals. It's still Packers first for me but unlike Cheesy I can't say if it's not Packers I don't care. I like the Saints cause I pull for Drew Brees. i like the Chargers cause I cheer for LT. Just like those guys I'll pull for Brett no matter where he is. The other day I was thinking of this and thought you're probably more inclined to just think your team if it's your local team then if your a fan from out of state. If I think of our local teams always pull for them even if I wouldn't know a name on the team but cause it's your city you only care about them
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#58 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:10:28 AM(UTC)
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Like Zombie I don't feel bad cheering for Favre as it has nothing to do with cheering against Green Bay. I still obviously support the Pack first but I think there's 2 kinds of fans, those who just cheer for the helmet and those who are nore prone to pull for individuals. It's still Packers first for me but unlike Cheesy I can't say if it's not Packers I don't care. I like the Saints cause I pull for Drew Brees. i like the Chargers cause I cheer for LT. Just like those guys I'll pull for Brett no matter where he is. The other day I was thinking of this and thought you're probably more inclined to just think your team if it's your local team then if your a fan from out of state. If I think of our local teams always pull for them even if I wouldn't know a name on the team but cause it's your city you only care about them


So at the end of the season, MN wins home field over GB because Brett had a good game against a team you don't care about. Since it wasn't the Packers it doesn't matter? Every game matters. I look at it pretty simple. MN does well, it is bad for GB. Chicago does well, it is bad for GB.

I want the Vikings, Bears and Lions to lose every game. That means I want Brett, Cutler, and Stafford to lose. Do I care if they throw for 1000 yards each in a game. No as long as the team loses the game.
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#59 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:59:50 PM(UTC)
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Yeah I guess that is a good way of putting it, can hardly argue with you there. I guess my ideal situation is the Packers play good enough they're not dependent on Favre having a bad game to get in the playoffs. Just take care of business. I hate backdoor success anyway
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#60 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:37:39 PM(UTC)
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Like William Henderson said.
You can't root for Vikings QB to do good against the Packers and want the Packers to win. William says GET OFF THE DAMN FENCE!

I agree. Those (I was one of them until they actually played) who want Vikings QB to do good against us and still pull out the win... need to get off of the fence. You're either a Packers fan or Favre fan on those two games a year.
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#61 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:41:28 PM(UTC)
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I don't understand why we have a special section for a Vikings QB.
Shouldn't we also have a Cutler and Stafford section? :scratch:
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#62 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:47:31 PM(UTC)
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I don't understand why we have a special section for a Vikings QB.
Shouldn't we also have a Cutler and Stafford section? :scratch:
I think the Vikings QB may have played for the Packers??
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#63 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:34:14 AM(UTC)
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I don't understand why we have a special section for a Vikings QB.
Shouldn't we also have a Cutler and Stafford section? :scratch:
I think the Vikings QB may have played for the Packers??


Then we need sections for all the former GB players.
Well not all of them.... only the ones who were decent.
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#64 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:40:38 AM(UTC)
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Then we need sections for all the former GB players.
Well not all of them.... only the ones who were decent.
umm... that's already done. thanks for coming
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#65 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:54:38 AM(UTC)
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Then we need sections for all the former GB players.
Well not all of them.... only the ones who were decent.
umm... that's already done. thanks for coming


ummm...I don't see a Reggie White section anywhere.
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#66 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 1:24:53 AM(UTC)
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The two decent teams they've played have been home games. This 3 week stretch they have coming up will be very revealing.

Exactly, we'll know the true face of the Vikings after this Baltimore game.


Wait.

Wasn't that what you all were saying right before the Vikings played the Packers? What?


Don't play ignorant. Your strengths where our weaknesses. I pretty much figured you'd win after the first weeks. It surprises me that the final score was that close.

That said, I picked Baltimore this week. Let's be honest, you haven't played a great team. Maybe we'll be just that when our O-line gets together and the defense gets in sync, but for now, we're not. I think that Favre is destined to have one of his down games soon. The Ravens defense is proned to have one of their better games soon. Their secondary is lacking, but your O-line isn't too great in pass protection. I asume that that aggresive defense will wreak havoc on you.

Maybe it's a little wishfull thinking, as well. Can't wait to hit PP.O if you lose. Especially if Favre throws a pick or three. Marrdro, Mars... it's going to be fun.


I'm not disagreeing with your analysis of the Ravens vs. the Vikings. But I still find it kinda funny that people have been saying the same thing week in and week out about the Vikings.. "We'll see who the Vikings REALLY are after they face -=insert team name here=-."
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#67 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:13:31 AM(UTC)
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Vikings are a good team, I don't even know why people are even questioning it. Even if they do lose to the Ravens what does that change they will be 5-1 and we will still be 3-2 at best. The Vikings are better then the Packers at this point but watch out for the Packers. If this team can get there god damn o-line functioning it can be a real threat.
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#68 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:42:38 AM(UTC)
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IMO the Vikings have nobody but themselves to blame for the Questioning people are doing. They are 5-0. But it has been kind of an ugly 5-0. They have given up more yards than they have produced each game. They have been letting teams stay in the game. The ball can bounce funny and leaving team hang around can come back to bite them.

MN should have wiped the floor with Cleveland and Detroit. Then they need a last second miracle TD to beat SF. Against us, they killed us with their rush, and passing game. But it was far from a game where we were stuck in our end of the field. I am looking forward to see the next two games from them to see what they are really about.
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#69 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:23:31 AM(UTC)
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Then we need sections for all the former GB players.
Well not all of them.... only the ones who were decent.


I'd want a James Lofton section. But then it would be Zombieslayer, Zombieslayer, and Zombieslayer posting.
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#70 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:20:35 AM(UTC)
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The two decent teams they've played have been home games. This 3 week stretch they have coming up will be very revealing.

Exactly, we'll know the true face of the Vikings after this Baltimore game.


Wait.

Wasn't that what you all were saying right before the Vikings played the Packers? What?


Don't play ignorant. Your strengths where our weaknesses. I pretty much figured you'd win after the first weeks. It surprises me that the final score was that close.

That said, I picked Baltimore this week. Let's be honest, you haven't played a great team. Maybe we'll be just that when our O-line gets together and the defense gets in sync, but for now, we're not. I think that Favre is destined to have one of his down games soon. The Ravens defense is proned to have one of their better games soon. Their secondary is lacking, but your O-line isn't too great in pass protection. I asume that that aggresive defense will wreak havoc on you.

Maybe it's a little wishfull thinking, as well. Can't wait to hit PP.O if you lose. Especially if Favre throws a pick or three. Marrdro, Mars... it's going to be fun.


I'm not disagreeing with your analysis of the Ravens vs. the Vikings. But I still find it kinda funny that people have been saying the same thing week in and week out about the Vikings.. "We'll see who the Vikings REALLY are after they face -=insert team name here=-."


We know who the real Vikings are. It's just that they haven't really faced a team that hit their weaknesses like the Ravens do. You could make a case for the 49ers, but that offense is slightly pathetic without Gore.

Not to downgrade the Vikes at all, they're the best team in the division this year, but I just think that this'll be the 'come down to earth' game for them.
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#71 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 6:07:03 PM(UTC)
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Well, the Vikings game was on TV in SF and the Packers shutting out the Lions wasn't, so I got stuck watching the Vikings.

Anyways, Favre was nearly perfect. I don't see why people say he can't throw the long ball. He was quite impressive today with it. In fact, I think his rating was almost 140 today. 3 more TDs.
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#72 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 6:45:24 PM(UTC)
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IMO the Vikings have nobody but themselves to blame for the Questioning people are doing. They are 5-0. But it has been kind of an ugly 5-0. They have given up more yards than they have produced each game. They have been letting teams stay in the game. The ball can bounce funny and leaving team hang around can come back to bite them.

MN should have wiped the floor with Cleveland and Detroit. Then they need a last second miracle TD to beat SF. Against us, they killed us with their rush, and passing game. But it was far from a game where we were stuck in our end of the field. I am looking forward to see the next two games from them to see what they are really about.


Lol, they're 6-0 and people want to talk. Very funny are the haters
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#73 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 6:53:08 PM(UTC)
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IMO the Vikings have nobody but themselves to blame for the Questioning people are doing. They are 5-0. But it has been kind of an ugly 5-0. They have given up more yards than they have produced each game. They have been letting teams stay in the game. The ball can bounce funny and leaving team hang around can come back to bite them.

MN should have wiped the floor with Cleveland and Detroit. Then they need a last second miracle TD to beat SF. Against us, they killed us with their rush, and passing game. But it was far from a game where we were stuck in our end of the field. I am looking forward to see the next two games from them to see what they are really about.


Lol, they're 6-0 and people want to talk. Very funny are the haters

1. It's a Packers fan site. We are supposed to hate on the Vikings. Do you really not understand that?
2. It's all legitimate criticism. Minnesota is obviously a good team--no one goes undefeated this long if they're terrible. However they have gotten lucky breaks in their two biggest games (SF, BAL) and If a team wants to be great, they can't count on their luck.
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#74 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:03:35 PM(UTC)
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IMO the Vikings have nobody but themselves to blame for the Questioning people are doing. They are 5-0. But it has been kind of an ugly 5-0. They have given up more yards than they have produced each game. They have been letting teams stay in the game. The ball can bounce funny and leaving team hang around can come back to bite them.

MN should have wiped the floor with Cleveland and Detroit. Then they need a last second miracle TD to beat SF. Against us, they killed us with their rush, and passing game. But it was far from a game where we were stuck in our end of the field. I am looking forward to see the next two games from them to see what they are really about.


Lol, they're 6-0 and people want to talk. Very funny are the haters

1. It's a Packers fan site. We are supposed to hate on the Vikings. Do you really not understand that?
2. It's all legitimate criticism. Minnesota is obviously a good team--no one goes undefeated this long if they're terrible. However they have gotten lucky breaks in their two biggest games (SF, BAL) and If a team wants to be great, they can't count on their luck.


I think the Vikings are very beatable. I think Flacco put up 370 or something on them. Plus Winfield might be injured.

But DJ wern't you the one that said you wouldn't give Favre any credit until the did it against a good team because apprently the SF thing didn't count? Or is this not count either?
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IMO the Vikings have nobody but themselves to blame for the Questioning people are doing. They are 5-0. But it has been kind of an ugly 5-0. They have given up more yards than they have produced each game. They have been letting teams stay in the game. The ball can bounce funny and leaving team hang around can come back to bite them.

MN should have wiped the floor with Cleveland and Detroit. Then they need a last second miracle TD to beat SF. Against us, they killed us with their rush, and passing game. But it was far from a game where we were stuck in our end of the field. I am looking forward to see the next two games from them to see what they are really about.


Lol, they're 6-0 and people want to talk. Very funny are the haters

1. It's a Packers fan site. We are supposed to hate on the Vikings. Do you really not understand that?
2. It's all legitimate criticism. Minnesota is obviously a good team--no one goes undefeated this long if they're terrible. However they have gotten lucky breaks in their two biggest games (SF, BAL) and If a team wants to be great, they can't count on their luck.


Colts got lucky vs the Dolphins and another game, cant remember which. Giants are not great, Cowboys arent great, Pats are beatable. Basically, every team in the league is beatable. There are 4 or 5 really good teams who have a chance to win it, and thats all you can ask for. Saints, Vikings, Pats, Colts are the favorites. Call it luck, say the schedule is soft, whatever. Beating the 9ers, Packers and Ravens means something. Lucky pass vs the 9ers........whatever, name me another QB who makes that play in that situation. I've been watching football for 20 years and I've never seen anything like it. Only thing close was the Young to Owens TD vs us in the 1998 playoffs and the Favre degree of difficulty was much higher. Favre threw it on the Ravens all day at will today. He's getting better as the season goes along.
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