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Mazloum  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 10:55:48 PM(UTC)
I live near Tampa so I consider myself a Buc fan when they arent playing the Packers. Heres a breakdown as I see it, while I try to stay as impartial as possible.

Tampa Offense

QB - Garcia, Griese, McCown. Garcia was the starter, got injured / had a falling out with Gruden. Griese is the starter now.

-Griese is a tale of two quarterbacks. With time he can deliver a ball with great velocity and accuracy, can be pressured into horrendous decisions. Bucs threw 67 times last week.

RB - 95%+ of the carries will be taken by Earnest Graham and Warrick Dunn. Dunn is a change of pace, stop Graham and youve basically stopped the run game. Graham doesnt have great speed, but he always falls forward.

WR's - I liked this matchup alot until we lost Al, now I wonder. Galloway was held out due to injury and may not play this week. If he does he is easily the top weapon on this offense. Michael Clayton or Antonio Bryant start opposite him, and neither should be a matchup problem. Ike Hilliard is the #3, and the most reliable target on this team. Ike may actually give us some problems.

TE's - Smith, Stevens. Smith shouldnt be a problem. Stevens made some good plays last week, and is 6'7''.

O-line - Penn, Sears, Faine, Joseph, Trueblood. Left side is above average, right side is weak. Faine and Trueblood play with a mean streak, will know the names of our O-lines wives and children. Trueblood threw 2 punches to a player on the ground last week vs bears, while he was on top of player on the ground. Bears player was called for penalty, which led to a score on that drive, in OT. We cant fall trap to that mind game.

I like a lot of the matchups here. I think our D-line matches up well and should create some pressure.

I think our LB's should contain the RB's, although the TE stevens worries me a bit. A large question will be how our secondary plays minus Al.

This ran a bit long, so Ill stop here and do the defense tomorrow.

I'll be at the game Sunday too, so Ill bring back some pics.
longtimefan  
#2 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 11:25:27 PM(UTC)
most EXCELLENT post thanks!
Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 11:39:04 PM(UTC)
I watched Locker Room with Larry McCaren today and his guest was Ryan Pickett. Ryan said something that Rodgers said that intrigued me. Rodgers said in his press conference that he hopes to see Dallas again this year. The same words were echoed by Pickett. He also said their vibe from watching the tape was positive. They know their mistakes and they know they can fix them. He said they will build on the positives and fix the mistakes.

I for one am thinking we might blow out the Buccaneers here. With our Center coming back and a pissed off team that knows they should have played better. Yeah I think we'll see some points racked up.



edit, Mazloum --- if you need a place to upload your pictures, shoot me a PM and we'll host them for ya.
Cheesey  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:01:52 AM(UTC)
THANKS Maz!!!
GREAT info that i wouldn't have known had you not posted it!
+1 for you!
Rockjock07  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:24:11 AM(UTC)
I feel good about this game. The Bucs are a very average team offensively and above average on defense. I think GB goes down there and just kills TB coming off this loss to the Cowboys.

I'm really interested to see how this responses to this loss. It's good to see that they want another shot at the Cowboys. Look, The Packers have a easier schedule and play in a joke of a division and if they can win home-field in the playoffs, I would feel pretty comfortable have the Cowboys coming back to GB in the cold. Yes, that's looking a long way a way and the packers have some things to figure out on both sides of the ball.
gbpfan  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:05:23 AM(UTC)
not to take away from the bucks but i watched the game and their d-line did not play well if they had they wouldnt have went into over time,they did poorly on the run game so we need to run more and be a beast at it,as far as passing a-rod should be fine there our d-line should be solid with williams in there i hope al is going to be okay,but they should win this one :icon_smile:
twebdonny  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:21:19 AM(UTC)
We will be at Sunday's game as well. Fuzzy's tailgate starts at 10 and we plan to indulge heavily LOL. Packers fans need to stick together whilst
in Tampa as Bucs fan tend to go a bit overboard with glee if you know what I mean.

I truly think we will not only win this game, but win big and make a statement that this team can and will rebound from adversity.

DJ
Cheesey  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:38:00 PM(UTC)
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We will be at Sunday's game as well. Fuzzy's tailgate starts at 10 and we plan to indulge heavily LOL. Packers fans need to stick together whilst
in Tampa as Bucs fan tend to go a bit overboard with glee if you know what I mean.

I truly think we will not only win this game, but win big and make a statement that this team can and will rebound from adversity.

DJ

I sure hope you are right.........i NEED to see us rebound this week.
zombieslayer  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:35:24 PM(UTC)
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I sure hope you are right.........i NEED to see us rebound this week.


Not just you, my friend.
I hate the Cows more than a man should hate anything. It's been difficult.

Was this the first time we ever lost to the Cows at home? I think the announcer said that.

We should come out passing. Pass almost every down and throw in a draw play to Brandon Jackson. I'm currently liking Jackson more than Grant. Grant needs a week or two off. We'll need him in the Playoffs.

I want to see a double digit victory. Nothing against the Bucs, I have a soft spot for them, but we need a big win and they happen to be our opponents next week.
obi1  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:53:43 PM(UTC)
I don't know... Bucs have always been kind of a given as a W in the stats column but it is in Tampa and the heat can really get to you.

I just hope the Packers don't have any more injuries in this one as we can't afford any more...
luigis  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:08:39 PM(UTC)
Great post, its probably going to be a difficult game with so many injuries, I hope we can eliminate the mental mistakes and missed assignements and maybe put some more imagination to our offense.

Luis
Mazloum  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:26:44 PM(UTC)
Thanks for the replies folks. Heres the rest for those interested.

Tampa's Defense.

D-line - Carter, Hovan, Haye, Adams. Above average line as I see it. Carter is very underated with a great motor, Gaines Adams at the other end gets great pressure on passing downs. The interior of this line is the weak point, for what that is worth. The pass rush has been solid so far this season.

Linebackers - June, Ruud, Brooks. This is a great squad. June is in his prime and a solid player, Ruud is a budding star who has done a very good job over the last year and a bit. Brooks still needs to be accounted for due to his experience, but will leave the game on some passing downs.

Corners - Barber, Buchanon, Talib, Mack. Barber has given up big plays in each of the bucanneers losses this year. Big plays. Buchanon has been solid if unspectacular. Talib made a horrible rookie mistake for a TD week 1, then a great play for an int last week. Talib is comming along nicely. Mack is the fourth corner and I think is suspended for this Sunday.

Safeties - Philips, Jackson. These two safeties both read the same way on a scoutig report. Very productive in run support, will both take your head off. Both somewhat susceptible to play action.

-To note, this year it seems more than others Kiffin is getting his players rest by rotating his starters and backups some downs. LB's Hayes and Black will rotate in for a few plays. At safety Piscitelli will enter on some downs as well.

I think our O-line and their D-line grade pretty well against each other. I like our WR's against their Secondary, but i think I would take their Linebackers over our RB's & TE's, as far as matchups go.

I am anxious to see how we respond Sunday.
porky88  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:55:04 PM(UTC)
I like how GB matches up against Tampa Bay man for man. Now scheme wise we're familiar with the cover 2 but Monte Kiffin runs the best cover 2 around. Heck he is the father of cover 2. He'll give Rodgers lots a tough time.

I had GB winning this game and I think they will but I think this is going to be a game that has us sitting on the edge of our seats.
Greg C.  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:55:05 PM(UTC)
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Was this the first time we ever lost to the Cows at home? I think the announcer said that.


Coming into Sunday's game, the Cowboys were 0-5 in Green Bay, but they had beaten the Packers in Milwaukee at least once, and maybe a few times.

As for the Bucs, they are a scrappy team, but I think the Packers will bounce back strong against them. Ronde Barber was really getting toasted by Brandon Lloyd of the Bears, so it will be interesting to see if he guards Jennings or Driver man-to-man.
millertime  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:23:01 PM(UTC)
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I live near Tampa so I consider myself a Buc fan when they arent playing the Packers. Heres a breakdown as I see it, while I try to stay as impartial as possible.

Tampa Offense

QB - Garcia, Griese, McCown. Garcia was the starter, got injured / had a falling out with Gruden. Griese is the starter now.

-Griese is a tale of two quarterbacks. With time he can deliver a ball with great velocity and accuracy, can be pressured into horrendous decisions. Bucs threw 67 times last week.

RB - 95%+ of the carries will be taken by Earnest Graham and Warrick Dunn. Dunn is a change of pace, stop Graham and youve basically stopped the run game. Graham doesnt have great speed, but he always falls forward.

WR's - I liked this matchup alot until we lost Al, now I wonder. Galloway was held out due to injury and may not play this week. If he does he is easily the top weapon on this offense. Michael Clayton or Antonio Bryant start opposite him, and neither should be a matchup problem. Ike Hilliard is the #3, and the most reliable target on this team. Ike may actually give us some problems.

TE's - Smith, Stevens. Smith shouldnt be a problem. Stevens made some good plays last week, and is 6'7''.

O-line - Penn, Sears, Faine, Joseph, Trueblood. Left side is above average, right side is weak. Faine and Trueblood play with a mean streak, will know the names of our O-lines wives and children. Trueblood threw 2 punches to a player on the ground last week vs bears, while he was on top of player on the ground. Bears player was called for penalty, which led to a score on that drive, in OT. We cant fall trap to that mind game.

I like a lot of the matchups here. I think our D-line matches up well and should create some pressure.

I think our LB's should contain the RB's, although the TE stevens worries me a bit. A large question will be how our secondary plays minus Al.

This ran a bit long, so Ill stop here and do the defense tomorrow.

I'll be at the game Sunday too, so Ill bring back some pics.


I live in Tampa too and I'm trying to get tickets. You got any extra?
zombieslayer  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:33:02 PM(UTC)
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Coming into Sunday's game, the Cowboys were 0-5 in Green Bay, but they had beaten the Packers in Milwaukee at least once, and maybe a few times.

As for the Bucs, they are a scrappy team, but I think the Packers will bounce back strong against them. Ronde Barber was really getting toasted by Brandon Lloyd of the Bears, so it will be interesting to see if he guards Jennings or Driver man-to-man.


Thanks Greg.

The announcer was wrong then. We had lost to them at home. Milwaukee games count as home games.

Yeah. As for the Bucs, they always seem to have a lot of fight to them, but I think we can beat them by overwhelming their D. It has some weak spots in the secondary and we'll need some good rushing right up the middle. Hoping Wells is back.

We need this win to boost our morale. I actually want to see Grant rested and would rather see Jackson start and Lumpkin get some reps. Jackson right now looks better than Grant.
Mazloum  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:43:03 PM(UTC)
I think we will have some trouble running the ball in this game.

I think the Bucs would be weak vs a power run game, since their D-line is more quick than strong. Same with their backers, theyre fast for sure, but they can be pushed around.

Also, I was wrong about Mack, he served his suspension last weekend and will be available for the Bucs in this one.

Millertime - Sorry, I got my three tickets when Ticketmaster starting selling single game tix a few weeks ago. They sold out within 15min. I had 6 comps running and only got mine because someone either ran out of time, or decided against them.
DGB454  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:48:13 PM(UTC)
Injury report to date:

PACKERS
Chad Clifton T Knees Limited Participation
Nick Collins S Back Limited Participation
Korey Hall FB Knee Did Not Participate
Al Harris CB Spleen Out
James Jones WR Knee Limited Participation
Kregg Lumpkin RB Hamstring Did Not Participate
Aaron Rouse S Knee Limited Participation
Josh Sitton G Knee Limited
Charles Woodson CB Toe Did Not Participate

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

B.J. Askew RB Hamstring Did Not Participate
Josh Bidwell P Not Injury Related Did Not Participate
Derrick Brooks LB Hamstring Limited Participation
Matt Bryant K Not Injury Related Did Not Participate
Warrick Dunn RB Not Injury Related Limited Participation
Joey Galloway WR Foot Did Not Participate
Brian Griese QB Not Injury Related Limited Participation
Davin Joseph G Foot Limited Participation
Ryan Sims DT Groin Did Not Participate
Aquib Talib CB Hamstring Full Participation


Lumpkin may not play so the RB duties will be on Grant and Jackson.
obi1  
#19 Posted : Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:58:36 AM(UTC)
Anyone know what kind of a toe injury Woodson has?

If a broken toe(what I've heard), which one? Toes are one of those things where a whole lot can't be done about them... He might be on the Injured list for the rest of the season...
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