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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:54:17 AM(UTC)
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I wrote a blog back in July, about how the Jets should steer clear of Brett Favre. If you don't believe me your welcome to check back in my blogs and read it. Anyway, The point is this. This guy is undermining this team. And the worst thing is that it's not even his fault. Woody Johnson or Tannenbaum, or whoever wanted to win so bad that they grabbed the first star that became available. Poor Brett Favre who should have stayed retired, was sucked in, and now we see what happens when hasty decisions are on my beloved NY football team.

I said a few months ago that I don't see how you can take a QB like Pennington or Clemmons who have been in this offense for the past few years, and replace them with anyone and expect better results. Football is not like baseball or basketball, where a player can just change teams and be good to go in a month or two. Football is a balance of chemistry, and players knowledgeable in a system. Talent comes after knowledge, and desire to win. Brett Favre is/was talented. Chad Pennington had knowledge of the offense and the willpower to win games.

I think as the season goes on, Favre's level of climatizing to this offense, this city, will not change. Then this team will be stuck with the option of benching him for Kellen Clemmons, who've they've had all along, and giving GB a draft pick for what? If this trade had happened in the off season just after the season was over, I'm all for it. But 3 weeks before the season starts? That is insanity to believe you'd get a better product on the field with a 40 year old QB that doesn't know your offense.

The winner in all this? Not Brett Favre. Not the NY Jets. Definately not the fans. It's Chad Pennington. The guy who's been ridiculed by a bunch of idiots that don't know football, who will play in Miami with less expectations. I hope he extends his career, and makes the Pro Bowl while Favre crumbles. I hope Mangini, and owner Woody Johnson admit they made a mistake in trading away the real QB of NY at the end of this season.



Wow ... just ... wow.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:59:05 AM(UTC)
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LOL!
Awesome. He's now looking like a jackass.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:06:09 AM(UTC)
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Guess he's not a happy camper, huh?
But he makes some good points. And it looks like so far, it's not working out for the Jets.
I don't know.......but Favre didn't look exactly thrilled either. Maybe i'm wrong on that though.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:08:32 AM(UTC)
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Guess he's not a happy camper, huh?
But he makes some good points. And it looks like so far, it's not working out for the Jets.
I don't know.......but Favre didn't look exactly thrilled either. Maybe i'm wrong on that though.




The attention I've paid on Favre's every word, press conference and what not some might say its obsession. I think it's helped me gauge him fairly decent. He doesn't have that 'look' in his eyes anymore. Looking at him now, its hollow. I don't know how to better explain it. Find a press conference from him last season and listen to it and watch it. Then find one from this year while with the Jets, after a win or loss. I'm sure you'll see what I'm talking about.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:49:48 AM(UTC)
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woah, a Chad Pennington fan. i had no idea those things were still around.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:58:47 AM(UTC)
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Guess he's not a happy camper, huh?
But he makes some good points. And it looks like so far, it's not working out for the Jets.
I don't know.......but Favre didn't look exactly thrilled either. Maybe i'm wrong on that though.




The attention I've paid on Favre's every word, press conference and what not some might say its obsession. I think it's helped me gauge him fairly decent. He doesn't have that 'look' in his eyes anymore. Looking at him now, its hollow. I don't know how to better explain it. Find a press conference from him last season and listen to it and watch it. Then find one from this year while with the Jets, after a win or loss. I'm sure you'll see what I'm talking about.


I agree. I think he looks lost. He puts on a fake smile and says he is happy to be there playing football but you can tell he isn't sincere. He looks uncomfortable and lost. He is out of his element and is very unhappy about it. His element is Greenbay. GB is the place he has called home for most of his adult life. If you give him another year there he might start to feel more at home but I really doubt he will play another year. He will continue to play OK but there is no heart in his game. We all know that that's what drove Brett was his heart. That's something you can't fake. Without that he is just another decent QB. It's like that old song... "I left my heart in San Francisco." Except in this case he left his heart in GreenBay.
Offline Greg C.  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:28:17 AM(UTC)
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woah, a Chad Pennington fan. i had no idea those things were still around.


My thoughts exactly.
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Offline Heatherthepackgirl  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:13:10 AM(UTC)
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I still think Brett has the desire to play and is happy playing! He has had many tough seasons in Green Bay as well, it does take time to mesh with your team mates and learn the system. If you noticed during the game, he was on the sidelines learning, looking at plays, this tells me he wants to mesh with this new team, he is working really hard. Now someone that didnt give a crap wouldnt be doing those things.

I thought he made alot of great throws last night, but he made some bad ones as well, but that is Brett Favre in a nutshell trying to make something happen, he has done this in Green Bay many times to. He has had a lot of poor seasons in Green Bay as well it happens.

This team didnt loose entirely because of Brett Favre last night, the Jets defense wasnt good in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, they got to Phillips maybe twice last night. It looked like some of Brett's throws were off because yes he didnt know the system well enough yet, and maybe it was the recievers as well not making plays. I did see a QB sneak from Brett that he hadnt done in so long, that was fun to see. Brett still has it IMO, it just will take sometime to mesh with his new team. Also they said that he is trying to get his new team excited, didnt you see him after the special teams ran in for a touchdown and Brett was out on the field patting everyone as they came off. This isnt someone that dont want to play for the Jets, this is someone that is still a little boy at heart and still wants to win and has the ability to still win.

Again it takes more then one person to win games, I have said this many times as well. But the sad part is they always put the full blame on the QB and if thats true then say it. But last night this team wasnt all together, they still have tons of work to do. I do believe down the road they will get better, I just hope its not he last game of the season. But if it is then so be it, Brett is where he wants to be and that is playing football. I still believe in this man because he is and always will be a great player. You cannot expect him to play for a team for three weeks and know everything, you do also have to have that chemistry between receivers and QB's this takes time, and I am sure when Brett went to the Jets he knew that, after all hes been playing for along time.

Also with Brett taking home the playbook and studying every night this also tells me hes still excited and wants to learn. To say that Favre doesnt have the talent anymore, that is totally false, he still has the talent to win games he just needs others to step up around him to make this happen. Just because one person is talented on a team, you cannot win games like this.

I for one am glad Brett came out of retirement, now would I rather see him in Green Bay? YES!! He knows the system, the players and if he were playing for Green Bay he would have had a great year, he could have relaxed a bit. But we all know the Packers moved on and Brett wanted to play, so now hes in New York studying and trying to pick up the play book as best as he can along the way. For someone that is 37 years old, thats impressive IMO, he still has that urge and desire to win.

GO BRETT AND GO JETS!! You can only get better. :)
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:27:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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Guess he's not a happy camper, huh?
But he makes some good points. And it looks like so far, it's not working out for the Jets.
I don't know.......but Favre didn't look exactly thrilled either. Maybe i'm wrong on that though.




The attention I've paid on Favre's every word, press conference and what not some might say its obsession. I think it's helped me gauge him fairly decent. He doesn't have that 'look' in his eyes anymore. Looking at him now, its hollow. I don't know how to better explain it. Find a press conference from him last season and listen to it and watch it. Then find one from this year while with the Jets, after a win or loss. I'm sure you'll see what I'm talking about.


I dont agree with you Zero, sorry.. :( I see someone that let the ball go into the enzone hopefully for a touchdown as he is being sacked, the first thing Brett does is look towards the ball to see if his receiver caught it, he still has the desire.

At his press conference last week after the lose again the Patriots, Brett said yes, he would have loved to win this game, but he said I had FUN out there and by looking at him I could tell he did.

Do you actually think he would have came out of retirement, went through what he did with Green Bay, when that didnt work out he could have stayed retired, he knew he was going into another system with lots of learning but he wanted to play, so he did. I think during a game when he isnt winning of course hes NOT happy, no QB is when loosing to an opposing team he is disappointed, and knowing Favre he is putting all the blame on himself which he shouldnt do.

I think that spark is still there and he is having the time of his life but that is IMO. There are many games left to be played hopefully they can turn things around. And if they dont, Favre will have to make up his mind to weather he will play next season, but my guess is, he will play he cannot think that loosing two games now that it was "all" his fault.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:50:32 AM(UTC)
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I don't think ya read the whole post I made there Heather. Don't make me come over there!! :)

From just quickly reading your response and reading my post... your bias is strong and I understand why. As I've said before, I just ... seen too much of Brett to keep the blinders on in that faith.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:10:13 PM(UTC)
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So from the original post, that guy thinks Favre will fail because he had three weeks to learn the system but Pennington will succeed because he had two in Miami? Sounds like someone didn't think that argument through.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:19:01 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
So from the original post, that guy thinks Favre will fail because he had three weeks to learn the system but Pennington will succeed because he had two in Miami? Sounds like someone didn't think that argument through.

Think :magnifyglass: whats that? no need Favre is GOD when it comes to football ehhhhhh?
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:39:48 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
So from the original post, that guy thinks Favre will fail because he had three weeks to learn the system but Pennington will succeed because he had two in Miami? Sounds like someone didn't think that argument through.

Think :magnifyglass: whats that? no need Favre is GOD when it comes to football ehhhhhh?


That's not what I said. What I said is the original blog made no sense in arguing Favre going to NY was a bad idea because he only had three weeks to learn the system then turning around and saying Pennington will succeed with even less time to learn Miami's. It is self-contradictory.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:42:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
So from the original post, that guy thinks Favre will fail because he had three weeks to learn the system but Pennington will succeed because he had two in Miami? Sounds like someone didn't think that argument through.

Think :magnifyglass: whats that? no need Favre is GOD when it comes to football ehhhhhh?


That's not what I said. What I said is the original blog made no sense in arguing Favre going to NY was a bad idea because he only had three weeks to learn the system then turning around and saying Pennington will succeed with even less time to learn Miami's. It is self-contradictory.


Yes i know i was being a smart a$$.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:32:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
So from the original post, that guy thinks Favre will fail because he had three weeks to learn the system but Pennington will succeed because he had two in Miami? Sounds like someone didn't think that argument through.

Think :magnifyglass: whats that? no need Favre is GOD when it comes to football ehhhhhh?


That's not what I said. What I said is the original blog made no sense in arguing Favre going to NY was a bad idea because he only had three weeks to learn the system then turning around and saying Pennington will succeed with even less time to learn Miami's. It is self-contradictory.


Yes i know i was being a smart a$$.


You sound to me more like a dumbass, dumbass... :pottytrain2:
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:39:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
So from the original post, that guy thinks Favre will fail because he had three weeks to learn the system but Pennington will succeed because he had two in Miami? Sounds like someone didn't think that argument through.

Think :magnifyglass: whats that? no need Favre is GOD when it comes to football ehhhhhh?


That's not what I said. What I said is the original blog made no sense in arguing Favre going to NY was a bad idea because he only had three weeks to learn the system then turning around and saying Pennington will succeed with even less time to learn Miami's. It is self-contradictory.


Yes i know i was being a smart a$$.


You sound to me more like a dumbass, dumbass... :pottytrain2:

Wow After all the crap you talk about t.t. Mike McCarthy Aaron Rodgers
:scratch: Shame on you what are we back in grade school?
Thats funny I got called a dumbass by Roddyboy
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:14:31 PM(UTC)
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You sound to me more like a dumbass, dumbass... :pottytrain2:


We thank you for never sharing that type of opinion with the rest of us ever again.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:34:11 PM(UTC)
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Funniest thing I read was in the paper this morning. "The Dolphins found an answer to their QB problems Sunday, they quit snapping it to him."
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:47:32 PM(UTC)
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Funniest thing I read was in the paper this morning. "The Dolphins found an answer to their QB problems Sunday, they quit snapping it to him."


lmao
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