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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 5:37:04 PM(UTC)
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Through seven-plus years of futility, Detroit Lions owner William Clay Ford Sr. has inexplicably stood behind his team president, Matt Millen.

Its now reached the point where even Fords own son is publicly questioning his father.

Asked today what he thought of the way the Lions played yesterday at San Francisco, William Clay Ford Jr. said, It was an embarrassment, the fans deserve better, and if I had the authority, I would have fired the general manager.

When asked again, directly, if he would fire Millen, Ford Jr. said, Yes, but I dont have that authority.

And thats the bottom line: Ford Jr. doesnt have that authority, and as long as Ford Sr. is alive, Millens job appears to be safe.



Times like this, I'm glad I'm not a Lions fan.
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#2 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2008 5:42:20 PM(UTC)
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Through seven-plus years of futility, Detroit Lions owner William Clay Ford Sr. has inexplicably stood behind his team president, Matt Millen.

Its now reached the point where even Fords own son is publicly questioning his father.

Asked today what he thought of the way the Lions played yesterday at San Francisco, William Clay Ford Jr. said, It was an embarrassment, the fans deserve better, and if I had the authority, I would have fired the general manager.

When asked again, directly, if he would fire Millen, Ford Jr. said, Yes, but I dont have that authority.

And thats the bottom line: Ford Jr. doesnt have that authority, and as long as Ford Sr. is alive, Millens job appears to be safe.



Times like this, I'm glad I'm not a Lions fan.

And now that Lions fans KNOW that JR. would dump Millen if SR. wasn't there, i'd make sure to put extra security around SR.!!!!
Offline bavpb  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:32:44 AM(UTC)
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Ford Jr. said it, but he didn't say it all


"So it was nice of Bill Ford Jr. to state the obvious. But you can fire the GM, youll still have the team. You can fire the team, youll still have the owner. You can fire the owner, and youll have a good start.

But you cant fire the owner.

You see our problem."


BTW where is BIG3? Has he accomplished the transition from the old forum to PH.com and is he still a Lion or did he leave the dark side and is one of us now? :wink:

Have a nice day,
Harald
Offline Rockmolder  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:53:24 AM(UTC)
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Bit off-topic, but it just reminded me of this :


Anyway, I hope for the sake of the Lions fans, that Sr. will come to his senses and fire the guy soon. If it goes on like this, they'll have 20 WRs on the roster and crappy players on all other positions.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:18:07 AM(UTC)
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Millen was just fired.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:40:03 AM(UTC)
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I wonder if they will throw a parade today in joy over the news.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:55:19 AM(UTC)
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I really need to find a way to get to ESPN, foxsports and cnnsi while at work. This stupid web blocking thing peeves me off.
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holy crap - seriously?? ol daddio got his hiney whooped by junior & millen's out?? cool!
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:07:53 PM(UTC)
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Thank you Ford Jr.
Offline bigfog  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:14:01 PM(UTC)
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PFT's take on the situation in Detroit:

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WHAT NEXT FOR THE LIONS?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 24, 2008, 10:51 a.m.

With CEO Matt Millen out of Detroit after seven-plus years of something far worse than mediocrity, the question now becomes what will the Lions do next?

A G.M.-level employee rarely is fired during a football season, primarily since the G.M. really doesnt do much once the season starts. Sure, theres churning at the bottom of the roster and advance planning for free agency and the draft and a rare trade, but dumping the G.M. wont really do anything to affect whether the team wins games or loses them during the season in which the move occurred.

The other problem is that it makes it difficult if not impossible to hire a permanent replacement in the short term, unless someone currently not under contract with a team is pursued.

Look for current Assistant G.M. Martin Mayhew to possibly be elevated into the role of G.M. Though, on one hand, Mayhew is part of the problem, on the other hand hes tight with COO Tom Lewand, who is tight with Bill Ford Jr.

Speaking of Lewand, hes likely to come out of this thing with greater authority.

But should he?

Though hes not generally known as a guy with direct ties to the football program, his job description places his fingerprints all over the thing. According to his bio on the teams web site, Lewand operates as the teams chief contract negotiator and architect of the salary cap, and oversees all day-to-day business operations of both the Detroit Lions and Ford Field entities. This includes the management of finance, football administration, player development, security, equipment operations, medical staff, ticketing, sales and marketing, public/media relations, broadcasting, human resources, Ford Field operations and administration, and the development of Ford Fields lease space in the stadiums progression as a multi-use facility.

Heres the kicker, again from Lewands bio: Lewands leadership positions every aspect of the Lions organization, including Ford Field operations, to significantly impact the Lions drive for a Super Bowl title. For Lewand, everything from football transactions to Ford Field events influences the teams ability to compete and win.

Logic and common sense tell us, then, that if Lewands positions significantly impact the Lions drive for a Super Bowl title and that everything he does influences the teams ability to compete and win, the chronic absence of a Super Bowl title (of course, you first need to get to the playoffs) and the inability of the team to consistently compete and win means that he should be fired, too.

But Lewand is one of these business types who will try to claim credit when things go well on the field, but then shoulder no blame when the franchise becomes a consistent bottom-feeder.

In our view, the entire organization should be gutted, and a new administration should be hired. Its the only way to erase the stench of the last seven years.

The timing of Millens departure will make that much harder to do. We believe that, over the next three months, Lewand and Mayhew will cozy up even closer to Bill Ford Jr., and Mayhew will emerge as the leading candidate for the permanent job (if, that is, the Lions hire him as G.M. on an interim basis only; we dont rule out the possibility of Mayhew being installed as the successor to Millen permanently).

So even though Lions fans currently are partying like drunken munchkins, it would be wise to keep in mind that the Wicked Witch of the West could end up being even worse than the witch on whom the house was finally dropped.
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