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Offline all_about_da_packers  
#11 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 6:23:17 PM(UTC)
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What was the reason for Brandt leaving the Packers again?



I don't have any links from the past, but I vividly remember a couple of articles that stated a major reason for Brandt's departure was his reluctance to get more involved with the personnel side of things.

First draft after Russ Ball was hired, Ted Thompson in one of his interviews explicitly credited Russ Ball for one of the trades that was made (I think it was trading down with the Jets, and getting Jordy). He said it was Russ who was working the lines and using some of his past connections to figure out who might be interested in getting back into the first round, and then Russ also initiated discussions with the Jets.


If you ask me, if Ted wanted someone of Brandt's caliber to stick around - he would've found a way to do it. Brandt seems to suggest that he was given the impression that the organization did not want him back necessarily.
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#12 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 6:25:33 PM(UTC)
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What was the reason for Brandt leaving the Packers again?



I don't have any links from the past, but I vividly remember a couple of articles that stated a major reason for Brandt's departure was his reluctance to get more involved with the personnel side of things.

First draft after Russ Ball was hired, Ted Thompson in one of his interviews explicitly credited Russ Ball for one of the trades that was made (I think it was trading down with the Jets, and getting Jordy). He said it was Russ who was working the lines and using some of his past connections to figure out who might be interested in getting back into the first round, and then Russ also initiated discussions with the Jets.


If you ask me, if Ted wanted someone of Brandt's caliber to stick around - he would've found a way to do it. Brandt seems to suggest that he was given the impression that the organization did not want him back necessarily.


Was afraid of rats
Offline nerdmann  
#13 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 7:24:42 PM(UTC)
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Anyything Andrew Brandt writes is worth reading. I'm glad I went to the link, because you chopped off the first section of the article. Also, I was able to read the comments after the article, which are worthwhile.

I wonder what would've happened if management had been more upfront with Favre about not wanting him back for the 2008 season. I agree with Brandt that it may have been a more honorable way to handle the situation, and yet, in the end, I don't know that it would've made much of a difference. I suppose the ugliness might've happened sooner rather than later.



He doesn't get into how Favre was demanding to dictate to Ted Thompson who the head coach should be, what players to pick up, the offensive philosophy, etc. Brandt isn't going to put that type of stuff in his column.
Offline British  
#14 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2009 7:26:38 PM(UTC)
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I think this guy makes a valid point.


hedgeapple
Oct 30, 2009
01:49 PM
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I think that the Packers deserved more from Brett, too. The fans certainly deserved more. It's sad to see a grown man act like a child. Just stand up and tell us what you want, what you need. Don't expect people to read your mind. It seems as if so much of this stuff, perceived indifference, imagined persecution, was all in his head. I mean, come on, Ted Thompson didn't stop by on his way home from the Senior Bowl so he retired? Give me a break. He complained that they pestered him too much by asking him if he wants to come back, and he complains when they leave him alone to let him think about it. There's no making this guy happy.
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What was the reason for Brandt leaving the Packers again?



I don't have any links from the past, but I vividly remember a couple of articles that stated a major reason for Brandt's departure was his reluctance to get more involved with the personnel side of things.

First draft after Russ Ball was hired, Ted Thompson in one of his interviews explicitly credited Russ Ball for one of the trades that was made (I think it was trading down with the Jets, and getting Jordy). He said it was Russ who was working the lines and using some of his past connections to figure out who might be interested in getting back into the first round, and then Russ also initiated discussions with the Jets.


If you ask me, if Ted wanted someone of Brandt's caliber to stick around - he would've found a way to do it. Brandt seems to suggest that he was given the impression that the organization did not want him back necessarily.


Was afraid of rats



My impression at the time was that Brandt did something "power struggle" wise to try to get the job as TT's boss. Not sure about that though.
However, Brandt was also apparently leaking things to the media. Ted Thompson didn't like that at all.
There could have been a bit of a power struggle between the two, with Brandt trying to leapfrog Ted Thompson in the hierarchy.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:03:10 PM(UTC)
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116 comments on that site and about 99% are bashing Brett
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#17 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:08:00 PM(UTC)
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nothing unifies the mob sentiment like a common enemy. just sayin'
Offline dfosterf  
#18 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:14:04 PM(UTC)
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Two of the comments are mine.

The only thing negative I stated was speculation (since Andrew speculated, so can I) that Brett's ego and insecurities were used against him in the sense that he interpreted silence--as in not making the (required) annual pilgrimage down to Kiln to sit at the Lord's throne (I didn't say that part, lol)--

as not being wanted anymore.

A passive but tacit (and perhaps the most classy way) of letting him know that the Packers were moving on without him.

His ego and insecurities did him in as a Packer...That is what I said.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:55:22 PM(UTC)
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Could someone help me out with the timeline of events? Didn't the Packers front office make an attempt at getting Brett to unretire and recommit to coming back for another season?

The entire soap opera was so vast and the number of new developments were so plentiful -- it's difficult to keep track of the clusterf**k. I do recall, sans specific evidence, that they recruited him after the teary-eyed retirement. He said no; they moved on.

I'm not making this up, right?
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#20 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:53:08 PM(UTC)
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Could someone help me out with the timeline of events? Didn't the Packers front office make an attempt at getting Brett to unretire and recommit to coming back for another season?

The entire soap opera was so vast and the number of new developments were so plentiful -- it's difficult to keep track of the clusterf**k. I do recall, sans specific evidence, that they recruited him after the teary-eyed retirement. He said no; they moved on.

I'm not making this up, right?


http://m.espn.go.com/nfl...d=3484868&topId=null

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-March 6: Favre's tearful press conference. McCarthy says he is surprised at how honest Favre is about the reasons behind his decision -- particularly about not being able to commit 100 percent to football.

-Week of March 24: During the coaching staff's spring break, Packers offensive line coach James Campen, whose in-laws live in New Orleans, goes up to visit Favre in Mississippi on March 26. On the 27th, Campen tells McCarthy Favre is having second thoughts and McCarthy should call him.

He does, and learns that Favre indeed is having second thoughts. McCarthy and Thompson decide they will welcome him back. They secure a private jet from a Packers board member to visit Favre in person and seal the deal.

-March 29: Favre calls McCarthy to deliver a message: Thanks, but no thanks.

"He felt at this point we had reached a point of closure," McCarthy said. "Those were his words. And he was going to stick with his initial decision."


Yes, you are right about that.
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