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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:07:34 AM(UTC)
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That trade with the incentives for a higher pick the better the Jets do with Brett.

Pure genius.


As a Packer fan, you have to be rooting for the Jets and Brett because it gives the Packers a better pick.

Not to mention... its Brett freaking Favre!


Genius ... pure genius!
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:29:58 AM(UTC)
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'Tis.

Any Packer fan who roots against the Jets (except when they're playing us, of course) is either ignorant of this trade situation or an ignoramus. Best thing that can happen is the Jets reach the SB (and lose to us).

Then we get the #31 and #32 pick.
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Offline HoustonMatt  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:40:15 AM(UTC)
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Interesting. Favre has been pulled for the final 2 minutes in favor of Kellen Clemens. Is this just so he doesn't risk injury, or are the Jets taking an opportunity to reduce his number of plays hoping to reduce the pick? I'm guessing it's a little of both, but if Favre went down in week 9, Clemens grabbing enough garbage time plays might put Favre below the 50% mark.

I also just saw him limping a bit, so maybe its just avoiding injury.
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Offline HoustonMatt  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:41:27 AM(UTC)
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Also, the poll is missing an option:

If Favre plays more than 50% of the snaps, it's a third rounder regardless of the Jets record. I think that's the most likely.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:46:51 AM(UTC)
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The Jets pulled Favre because they were down 3 TDs with a few minutes left and decided to give Clemens some reps.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:46:59 AM(UTC)
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Well.....it's not looking like we will get a high draft pick. The Jets arn't doing very well.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:48:15 AM(UTC)
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Interesting. Favre has been pulled for the final 2 minutes in favor of Kellen Clemens. Is this just so he doesn't risk injury, or are the Jets taking an opportunity to reduce his number of plays hoping to reduce the pick? I'm guessing it's a little of both, but if Favre went down in week 9, Clemens grabbing enough garbage time plays might put Favre below the 50% mark.

I also just saw him limping a bit, so maybe its just avoiding injury.

He was limping at the end of the game. I don't know why....what caused it.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:55:34 AM(UTC)
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He was limping before the last TD he threw too. I don't think its anything major.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:55:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Well.....it's not looking like we will get a high draft pick. The Jets arn't doing very well.


If this is true, which I believe it is, as Packer fans, should we root for the Jets to lose in order to get a higher third round pick? Or is the difference between pick 100 and 110 so insignificant that we shouldn't waste out time worrying about it? I'd probably go with the latter and continue to root for Brett.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:56:55 AM(UTC)
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Well.....it's not looking like we will get a high draft pick. The Jets arn't doing very well.


If this is true, which I believe it is, as Packer fans, should we root for the Jets to lose in order to get a higher third round pick? Or is the difference between pick 100 and 110 so insignificant that we shouldn't waste out time worrying about it? I'd probably go with the latter and continue to root for Brett.



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Good point mattresell... I hadn't thought of that.

Damn, Ted really is a freaking genius.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:03:54 AM(UTC)
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If this is true, which I believe it is, as Packer fans, should we root for the Jets to lose in order to get a higher third round pick? Or is the difference between pick 100 and 110 so insignificant that we shouldn't waste out time worrying about it? I'd probably go with the latter and continue to root for Brett.


Heh.

Haven't thought of that.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:01:39 AM(UTC)
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Published: 09-24-08
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When the Jets returned to practice this afternoon, both their offensive star and their defensive nucleus were on the field with their teammates.

Quarterback Brett Favre, sporting a red jersey and green mesh shorts, had his left ankle wrapped and he moved gingerly in the brief period the media was allowed to watch.

2008 Week 4 - Jets vs Cardinals Game Release

Im doing everything I can to get ready, Favre told reporters this morning. How it will affect me during the course of the week or Sunday remains to be seen.

Favre, whos started an NFL-quarterback-record 256 consecutive games, is not concerned about his ironman streak.

My philosophy has always been if you feel like you can play and not hinder the team one bit, then try at least, he said. Why not try? I think I owe that to not only my teammates but to myself. That's the way I've always looked at it.

Expected to be somewhat limited in practice, Favre isnt worried about losing physical reps. He said hed attempt to do some things today and placed an emphasis on his mental preparation heading into this weekends matchup with the Arizona Cardinals.

I love to play. I didn't come here, first of all, to lose. I didn't come in here to get hurt and sit and watch. That's why I played every game, he said. I could have sat out numerous games and no one would ever have questioned the fact that I was hurt, but I wouldn't let it get that far.

Favre, whose 70.0 percent passing accuracy ranks second in the league, will push the remarkable streak to 257 this weekend.

I feel like I can give this team a very good chance to win, he said. Until I'm told otherwise, I'm going to do it.

While Kris Jenkins started against the Chargers, the 64, 349-pound nose tackle was done after one quarter of action. Jets head coach Eric Mangini said he was close to returning, but the mammoth run stuffer was held out.

I am taking it day by day, doing the best I can, said Jenkins who did not participate in team drills in the non-pads session. Obviously, I am not on IR so its a plus. I am working on it day by day and doing what I can to get back on the field with my teammates.

With Carolina, Jenkins, 29, suffered a season-ending shoulder injury in 2004 and tore an ACL in the 05 opener. But since 2006, the eight-year vet has appeared in 35 consecutive games.

I cant go into it, but I can say its not something that was a first-time occurrence, he said of his back problem. It is something that I have dealt with before in the past. Its something I have to work through, and I know how to get through it.

Before the Jets complete the seasons first quarter, theyll tango with the Cards. At 1-2, Favre says each member of the team must believe they cant be beat.

Once this team starts believing all 53 guys start believing that it can be done then it will be, he said.

A pair of losses over the Jets first three games has not made Favre question his decision to press pause on retirement.

There's no doubt from my end. I'll continue to do what I've done from day one, from the day I first stepped onto a field. If that's not good enough, then it's not good enough, he said. It's been good enough up to this point. I've won way more games than I've lost and I don't anticipate that changing.

Favre isnt using the newness of the offense as an excuse for the units lack of productivity at times. In fact, he said, We have to at some point write that off.

The Green & White moved the ball effectively against the Chargers when they went to an empty backfield in the second half with Favre operating out of the shotgun. The Jets actually walked through that package at their La Jolla hotel Sunday.

Do we want to go 60 snaps in a game of empty? Who knows? We have the guys to do it, Favre said. But I think we also have a very effective running game. How we mix the two I think is going to be crucial because I think we saw something that we can do.
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Offline Heatherthepackgirl  
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:04:47 AM(UTC)
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Gosh some of you sound like you are just cheering on Brett because of the higher draft pick the Packers will get. Thats kind of cruel in away, again everyone has their own viewpoints.

I for one can say I am cheering on Brett because he has been my QB for many many years and I believe in him and his abilities. I am NOT worried about what number draft pick the Packers will receive and I say that in the most kindness way possible..LOL.. I cheer for him because of the type of person he is, enjoyment he has given me and watching him every Sunday. :)
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#14 Posted : Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:53:57 AM(UTC)
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The Jets have an easy schedule for the next 6 weeks. They could easily be 6-3 after 9 weeks. I hope we can be better than that!
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#15 Posted : Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:41:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Published: 09-24-08
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By Eric Allen

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When the Jets returned to practice this afternoon, both their offensive star and their defensive nucleus were on the field with their teammates.

Quarterback Brett Favre, sporting a red jersey and green mesh shorts, had his left ankle wrapped and he moved gingerly in the brief period the media was allowed to watch.

2008 Week 4 - Jets vs Cardinals Game Release

Im doing everything I can to get ready, Favre told reporters this morning. How it will affect me during the course of the week or Sunday remains to be seen.

Favre, whos started an NFL-quarterback-record 256 consecutive games, is not concerned about his ironman streak.

My philosophy has always been if you feel like you can play and not hinder the team one bit, then try at least, he said. Why not try? I think I owe that to not only my teammates but to myself. That's the way I've always looked at it.

Expected to be somewhat limited in practice, Favre isnt worried about losing physical reps. He said hed attempt to do some things today and placed an emphasis on his mental preparation heading into this weekends matchup with the Arizona Cardinals.

I love to play. I didn't come here, first of all, to lose. I didn't come in here to get hurt and sit and watch. That's why I played every game, he said. I could have sat out numerous games and no one would ever have questioned the fact that I was hurt, but I wouldn't let it get that far.

Favre, whose 70.0 percent passing accuracy ranks second in the league, will push the remarkable streak to 257 this weekend.

I feel like I can give this team a very good chance to win, he said. Until I'm told otherwise, I'm going to do it.

While Kris Jenkins started against the Chargers, the 64, 349-pound nose tackle was done after one quarter of action. Jets head coach Eric Mangini said he was close to returning, but the mammoth run stuffer was held out.

I am taking it day by day, doing the best I can, said Jenkins who did not participate in team drills in the non-pads session. Obviously, I am not on IR so its a plus. I am working on it day by day and doing what I can to get back on the field with my teammates.

With Carolina, Jenkins, 29, suffered a season-ending shoulder injury in 2004 and tore an ACL in the 05 opener. But since 2006, the eight-year vet has appeared in 35 consecutive games.

I cant go into it, but I can say its not something that was a first-time occurrence, he said of his back problem. It is something that I have dealt with before in the past. Its something I have to work through, and I know how to get through it.

Before the Jets complete the seasons first quarter, theyll tango with the Cards. At 1-2, Favre says each member of the team must believe they cant be beat.

Once this team starts believing all 53 guys start believing that it can be done then it will be, he said.

A pair of losses over the Jets first three games has not made Favre question his decision to press pause on retirement.

There's no doubt from my end. I'll continue to do what I've done from day one, from the day I first stepped onto a field. If that's not good enough, then it's not good enough, he said. It's been good enough up to this point. I've won way more games than I've lost and I don't anticipate that changing.

Favre isnt using the newness of the offense as an excuse for the units lack of productivity at times. In fact, he said, We have to at some point write that off.

The Green & White moved the ball effectively against the Chargers when they went to an empty backfield in the second half with Favre operating out of the shotgun. The Jets actually walked through that package at their La Jolla hotel Sunday.

Do we want to go 60 snaps in a game of empty? Who knows? We have the guys to do it, Favre said. But I think we also have a very effective running game. How we mix the two I think is going to be crucial because I think we saw something that we can do.

2008 Week 4 - Jets vs Cardinals Game Release
When the Jets returned to practice this afternoon, both their offensive star and their defensive nucleus were on the field with their teammates.

Quarterback Brett Favre, sporting a red jersey and green mesh shorts, had his left ankle wrapped and he moved gingerly in the brief period the media was allowed to watch.

2008 Week 4 - Jets vs Cardinals Game Release

Im doing everything I can to get ready, Favre told reporters this morning. How it will affect me during the course of the week or Sunday remains to be seen.

Favre, whos started an NFL-quarterback-record 256 consecutive games, is not concerned about his ironman
Expected to be somewhat limited in practice, Favre isnt worried about losing physical reps. He said hed attempt to do some things today and placed an emphasis on his mental preparation heading into this weekends matchup with the Arizona Cardinals.

I love to play. I didn't come here, first of all, to lose. I didn't come in here to get hurt and sit and watch. That's why I played every game, he said. I could have sat out numerous games and no one would ever have questioned the fact that I was hurt, but I wouldn't let it get that far.

Favre, whose 70.0 percent passing accuracy ranks second in the league, will push the remarkable streak to 257 this weekend.

I am taking it day by day, doing the best I can, said Jenkins who did not participate in team drills in the non-pads session. Obviously, I am not on IR so its a plus. I am working on it day by day and doing what I can to get back on the field with my teammates.

With Carolina, Jenkins, 29, suffered a season-ending shoulder injury in 2004 and tore an ACL in the 05 opener. But since 2006, the eight-year vet has appeared in 35 consecutive games.

I cant go into it, but I can say its not something that was a first-time occurrence, he said of his back problem. It is something that I have dealt with before in the past. Its something I have to work through, and I know how to get through it.

A pair of losses over the Jets first three games has not made Favre question his decision to press pause on retirement.

There's no doubt from my end. I'll continue to do what I've done from day one, from the day I first stepped onto a field. If that's not good enough, then it's not good enough, he said. It's been good enough up to this point. I've won way more games than I've lost and I don't anticipate that changing.

Favre isnt using the newness of the offense as an excuse for the units lack of productivity at times. In fact, he said, We have to at some point write that off.

The Green & White moved the ball effectively against the Chargers when they went to an empty backfield in the second half with Favre operating out of the shotgun. The Jets actually
2008 Week 4 - Jets vs Cardinals Game Release

streak.

My philosophy has always been if you feel like you can play and not hinder the team one bit, then try at least, he said. Why not try? I think I owe that to not only my teammates but to myself. That's the way I've always looked at it.


I thought ZERO doesnt like to have post go way off topic and this is WAY off topic
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#16 Posted : Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:50:35 AM(UTC)
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I copied and pasted the only thing that tells a little bit about Favre's injury, I know Cheesy for one didnt know what the injury was and this was the only article I could find.

Zero wont mind, right Zero??? :) And if he does he can punish me.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:21:22 AM(UTC)
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I copied and pasted the only thing that tells a little bit about Favre's injury, I know Cheesy for one didnt know what the injury was and this was the only article I could find.

Zero wont mind, right Zero??? :) And if he does he can punish me.

I don't think he will mind. The topic IS Brett Favre, and you just gave info about his injury. To me that is VERY important to the underlying topic.
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#18 Posted : Friday, September 26, 2008 10:11:50 AM(UTC)
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Cheesy, I thought that same thing, it is about Brett Favre and it was the only thing I could find out about his injury. I guess he twisted his ankle, they have wrapped it and everyday its getting better, so they say he will play on Sunday. He had limited practices though which sucks because he needs all the practice he can get with his recievers.
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#19 Posted : Friday, September 26, 2008 10:58:14 AM(UTC)
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lol...i guess i was way off base then...

thought not to long ago zero made a statment that said he didnt want posts going off topic ( cheesey I know YOU recall that post by him) as do many others
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#20 Posted : Friday, September 26, 2008 11:00:37 AM(UTC)
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lol...i guess i was way off base then...

thought not to long ago zero made a statment that said he didnt want posts going off topic ( cheesey I know YOU recall that post by him) as do many others


So quick to ridicule, yet blatantly overlook comments that say otherwise, even when they were emailed directly to you personally.
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#21 Posted : Friday, September 26, 2008 1:08:05 PM(UTC)
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Gosh some of you sound like you are just cheering on Brett because of the higher draft pick the Packers will get. Thats kind of cruel in away, again everyone has their own viewpoints.

I for one can say I am cheering on Brett because he has been my QB for many many years and I believe in him and his abilities. I am NOT worried about what number draft pick the Packers will receive and I say that in the most kindness way possible..LOL.. I cheer for him because of the type of person he is, enjoyment he has given me and watching him every Sunday. :)


I think true fans of football are still cheering for BF , simply because still at the age of 38 or 39, he's the most exciting player on the field. He still does crazy ass stuff, and looks like a kid out there still (although one with gray hair).
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#22 Posted : Friday, September 26, 2008 1:10:22 PM(UTC)
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Gosh some of you sound like you are just cheering on Brett because of the higher draft pick the Packers will get. Thats kind of cruel in away, again everyone has their own viewpoints.

I for one can say I am cheering on Brett because he has been my QB for many many years and I believe in him and his abilities. I am NOT worried about what number draft pick the Packers will receive and I say that in the most kindness way possible..LOL.. I cheer for him because of the type of person he is, enjoyment he has given me and watching him every Sunday. :)


I think true fans of football are still cheering for BF , simply because still at the age of 38 or 39, he's the most exciting player on the field. He still does crazy ass stuff, and looks like a kid out there still (although one with gray hair).


Everyone is rooting for Favre. There's no reason not to. Does his uniform freak me out, yes, but I still hope to see him do as good where is he now as I did when he was with us. When he throws a deep pass I still cringe and hope for the best. Its just how it is.
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#23 Posted : Friday, September 26, 2008 3:30:01 PM(UTC)
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When he throws a deep pass I still cringe and hope for the best. Its just how it is.


Why cringe? BF throws a better deep ball than any other QB in the NFL as of '07. There are stats to prove it. BF completed more passes of over 40 yards than any other QB.

He still has the arm. I've watched the Jets games and his deep ball looks great.

I think Javon Walker spoiled him, because when Walker was healthy, all you had to do was throw the ball up in the air and Walker comes down with it. So we had bad Brett in '05, mediocre Brett in '06, and good Brett in '07 and '08. Good Brett is back.
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#24 Posted : Friday, September 26, 2008 8:06:41 PM(UTC)
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lol...i guess i was way off base then...

thought not to long ago zero made a statment that said he didnt want posts going off topic ( cheesey I know YOU recall that post by him) as do many others


So quick to ridicule, yet blatantly overlook comments that say otherwise, even when they were emailed directly to you personally.



Thank you!! :)
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#25 Posted : Friday, September 26, 2008 8:07:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Gosh some of you sound like you are just cheering on Brett because of the higher draft pick the Packers will get. Thats kind of cruel in away, again everyone has their own viewpoints.

I for one can say I am cheering on Brett because he has been my QB for many many years and I believe in him and his abilities. I am NOT worried about what number draft pick the Packers will receive and I say that in the most kindness way possible..LOL.. I cheer for him because of the type of person he is, enjoyment he has given me and watching him every Sunday. :)


I think true fans of football are still cheering for BF , simply because still at the age of 38 or 39, he's the most exciting player on the field. He still does crazy ass stuff, and looks like a kid out there still (although one with gray hair).



I agree Zero, the uniform still is a little weird for me. But it is what it is I guess. But he still wears green so that was good. :)

Everyone is rooting for Favre. There's no reason not to. Does his uniform freak me out, yes, but I still hope to see him do as good where is he now as I did when he was with us. When he throws a deep pass I still cringe and hope for the best. Its just how it is.
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