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longtimefan  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:48:54 PM(UTC)
http://msn.foxsports.com...k-letter-to-favre-122209

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Dear Brett Favre,

Hey, it's me, Jason, the leader of your MVP campaign.

Yeah, you pretty much handed that trophy to Peyton Manning last weekend. I'm not even talking about your so-so performance on the field and losing to the Panthers. I could've worked around that.

You blew it when you backed that bus over Chilly in your post-game news conference. Damn it, Brett, you gave your critics all the ammo they need to start calling you "Brat" or "Britney" or "Flava Favre" or "The White T.O."

Those last two nicknames are actually my creation. That's how hard it is being the president of your fan club. Some weeks I want to ride for you and put clown suits on Ted Thompson, Mike McCarthy and anyone who refuses to give you your proper respect and other weeks I'm ashamed of myself for jumping in the same foxhole with John Madden.

Brett, why can't you be more like Tiger Woods?

Tiger keeps it 100, Brett. Tiger keeps his mouth shut. He refuses to cooperate with the media. I'll ride or lie for Tiger 24/7/365.

You, on the other hand, fell into the media's trap. You think the more you talk the more we'll love you.

You've turned your career into "The Real World" and you spend all your free time in a confessional booth talking about everything from addiction to painkillers to sideline dustups with Chilly over playing time.

Rick Reilly must love you. Every time the going gets tough, you're on the phone with Oprah's producers hoping to book a seat on The Couch.

The truly great ones, Brett, remain a mystery. You don't see Tom Brady and Peyton Manning spilling their hearts to every reporter with an empty notebook. Jordan didn't do it. Neither did Gretzky. Hell, even a camera hound like Magic Johnson stayed relatively low key until he had to distance himself from those mid-court kisses with Isiah Thomas after contracting the HIV virus.

OK, I'll give you Muhammad Ali. But Ali needed the media to beat the draft and sell tickets to fights. Plus, Ali was king in a very different era. There was no 24-hour news cycle. TV networks didn't give assclowns like Nancy Grace and Skip Bayless their own shows.

Nope. It's clear. You've done irreparable damage to your legacy by running your mouth to the media. It doesn't matter that you're right and Chilly is an idiot. It doesn't matter that he wanted to bench you after you threw a touchdown pass to go up two scores at Green Bay. No one will care that Childress thought about pulling you from the Detroit game. And your critics will overlook that Chilly's hyper-conservative, no-audible offense allowed Carolina to hang around for three quarters and steal Sunday night's game in the fourth.

You're the bad guy. You refuse to bow to the insecure, counter-productive wishes of your overmatched coach. Those of us in the media tend to be hypocritical. Woodward and Bernstein proved to us long ago that all great journalism is done over the objection of editors. The same thing pretty much applies to quarterback play. We don't comprehend that. We think Charlie Weis made Brady great when the reality is just the opposite.

Brett, I've seen this all before.

Joe Montana went through the exact same issue during his final season in Kansas City. Marty Schottenheimer and his offensive coordinator Paul Hackett devised a similar Montana protection strategy in 1994.

The Chiefs had great defensive personnel led by Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith. The Chiefs also had a physical offensive line, a Hall of Fame running back (Marcus Allen) and two other solid backs (Greg Hill and Kimble Anders).

Well, Marty got it into his head that he could back the Chiefs into the playoffs and loose the real Joe Montana in January. Montana was furious. He bitched (privately) the entire second half of the season about a passing game that left seven blockers to protect and three receivers in the secondary.

Montana, like you, was a warrior. He didn't want to die on his knees. He knew the Chiefs would struggle on the road in the playoffs. Sure enough, with the Chiefs' restricted offense averaging 17 points over a five-game stretch, Kansas City lost four of five games, fell to 7-7 and had to win its final two games to sneak into the postseason.

The Chiefs traveled to Miami for a wild-card playoff game and lost 27-17 to the Dolphins. Montana retired weeks later. Marty Schottenheimer left the coaching profession in 2006 having not won a playoff game since the 1993 season, the last season Montana was allowed to be Joe Montana.

Brett, you should've let Childress pull you from the game and then left him to explain the irrational decision. The Vikings had a chance to catch the Saints for the NFC No. 1 seed. Now the Eagles are nipping at the Vikes for the No. 2 seed. This whole season could turn into a disaster just because Chilly doesn't want a veteran quarterback to call a few audibles.

Had you said nothing, Brett, and created the appearance you were taking the high road, it would be open season on Chilly. Me, John Madden, Tony Kornheiser and few others could ride on this fool.

Now no one will hear us because you had to open your mouth.

Sincerely,

Jason Whitlock
4PackGirl  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:55:51 PM(UTC)
flava favre - HILARIOUS!!!
MassPackersFan  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:03:47 PM(UTC)
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flava favre - HILARIOUS!!!
:lol: Absolutely. I stopped reading around that point because nothing was going to equal the mental picture of Brent screaming, "FLAAVAAA FAAARVVE!" with a gold grill.
Nonstopdrivel  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:04:43 PM(UTC)
This article is a strange case of praising with faint condemnation.
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:42:00 PM(UTC)
I haven't much liked Jason over the last couple years, but I do agree with this line about the "TV networks didn't give assclowns like Nancy Grace and Skip Bayless their own shows".
Cheesey  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:49:08 PM(UTC)
Well....it proves to anyone that thought we were making stuff up that "Flava Favre" (I LOVE THAT!LOLOL!!!) thinks HE is bigger then any team he plays on.
The head coach is his BOSS. You don't go off to the media on your BOSS. And whether you like what your BOSS says, you do what he says! Why? CAUSE HE'S YOUR FRIGGIN' BOSS!!!
He just proved to anyone that ad any doubts that he's a prima dona.

And thats sad.
I'm glad it's happening to the Vikings, and not us.
Formo  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:55:58 PM(UTC)
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Nope. It's clear. You've done irreparable damage to your legacy by running your mouth to the media. It doesn't matter that you're right and Chilly is an idiot. It doesn't matter that he wanted to bench you after you threw a touchdown pass to go up two scores at Green Bay. No one will care that Childress thought about pulling you from the Detroit game. And your critics will overlook that Chilly's hyper-conservative, no-audible offense allowed Carolina to hang around for three quarters and steal Sunday night's game in the fourth.


So true. And because Favre opened his mouth, all the critics in the world are going to be collectively chanting for his head and no one will pay attention that Chilly is the idiot here, not Favre.
longtimefan  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:19:08 PM(UTC)
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So true. And because Favre opened his mouth, all the critics in the world are going to be collectively chanting for his head and no one will pay attention that Chilly is the idiot here, not Favre.


I guess you just skimmed another article?

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It doesn't matter that you're right and Chilly is an idiot
Formo  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:48:29 AM(UTC)
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So true. And because Favre opened his mouth, all the critics in the world are going to be collectively chanting for his head and no one will pay attention that Chilly is the idiot here, not Favre.


I guess you just skimmed another article?

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It doesn't matter that you're right and Chilly is an idiot


What does that supposed to mean?
Zero2Cool  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:51:27 AM(UTC)
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So true. And because Favre opened his mouth, all the critics in the world are going to be collectively chanting for his head and no one will pay attention that Chilly is the idiot here, not Favre.


Tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Formo  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:26:41 AM(UTC)
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So true. And because Favre opened his mouth, all the critics in the world are going to be collectively chanting for his head and no one will pay attention that Chilly is the idiot here, not Favre.


Tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


It's should be what's expected of Favre, though. 17 years of him doing this.. and people think it's gonna change now?! HA!
Zero2Cool  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:12:49 AM(UTC)
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So true. And because Favre opened his mouth, all the critics in the world are going to be collectively chanting for his head and no one will pay attention that Chilly is the idiot here, not Favre.


Tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


It's should be what's expected of Favre, though. 17 years of him doing this.. and people think it's gonna change now?! HA!


I'll say it again as I've said for years. One of the things we all most enjoy about Brett is his openness, and it's also one of his biggest down falls.

By your theory, if someone robs a bank, bah, let them, its what they always do we should be used to it.
longtimefan  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:13:35 PM(UTC)
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So true. And because Favre opened his mouth, all the critics in the world are going to be collectively chanting for his head and no one will pay attention that Chilly is the idiot here, not Favre.


I guess you just skimmed another article?

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It doesn't matter that you're right and Chilly is an idiot


The writer has said Chilly was an idiot..

The issue is not if he was right in staying in, but why bring it up in the media to give people a reason to bad mouth him
Nonstopdrivel  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:08:04 PM(UTC)
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One of the things we all most enjoy about Brett is his openness


It's the thing that has always annoyed me the most about him, because it's a patent ploy for attention and an attempt to wrap the media and public perception around his finger. The same guy who was telling homespun stories to the media was cruising around downtown Green Bay with his boys acting like an asshole (and I heard this from people in Green Bay as long ago as the 90s). I'd rather he kept his mouth shut. Gods are supposed to be mysterious.
Zero2Cool  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:50:28 PM(UTC)
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One of the things we all most enjoy about Brett is his openness


It's the thing that has always annoyed me the most about him, because it's a patent ploy for attention and an attempt to wrap the media and public perception around his finger. The same guy who was telling homespun stories to the media was cruising around downtown Green Bay with his boys acting like an asshole (and I heard this from people in Green Bay as long ago as the 90s). I'd rather he kept his mouth shut. Gods are supposed to be mysterious.


Yes, of course, you're different, you're special. We get it.


I think his openness let us feel closer to him, in the light that we were somewhat like him. He had his failures, mistakes, etc ... and kept fighting to over come them with hard work. His openness opened the door for us to see him as a blue collar type of person, which is an accurate description of most Wisconsin people.

I'm sure your next reply will contain four words that I will need to look up on Dicitonary.com that explain how how my opinion is wrong and doesn't match you one bit. NonStopPredictable. :)
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:40:18 PM(UTC)
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One of the things we all most enjoy about Brett is his openness


It's the thing that has always annoyed me the most about him, because it's a patent ploy for attention and an attempt to wrap the media and public perception around his finger. The same guy who was telling homespun stories to the media was cruising around downtown Green Bay with his boys acting like an asshole (and I heard this from people in Green Bay as long ago as the 90s). I'd rather he kept his mouth shut. Gods are supposed to be mysterious.


Yes, of course, you're different, you're special. We get it.


I think his openness let us feel closer to him, in the light that we were somewhat like him. He had his failures, mistakes, etc ... and kept fighting to over come them with hard work. His openness opened the door for us to see him as a blue collar type of person, which is an accurate description of most Wisconsin people.

I'm sure your next reply will contain four words that I will need to look up on Dicitonary.com that explain how how my opinion is wrong and doesn't match you one bit. NonStopPredictable. :)



How come when I talk to someone like this, I'm labeled and asshole, but you get away with it, by putting a smiley face down.
Zero2Cool  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:46:23 PM(UTC)
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One of the things we all most enjoy about Brett is his openness


It's the thing that has always annoyed me the most about him, because it's a patent ploy for attention and an attempt to wrap the media and public perception around his finger. The same guy who was telling homespun stories to the media was cruising around downtown Green Bay with his boys acting like an asshole (and I heard this from people in Green Bay as long ago as the 90s). I'd rather he kept his mouth shut. Gods are supposed to be mysterious.


Yes, of course, you're different, you're special. We get it.


I think his openness let us feel closer to him, in the light that we were somewhat like him. He had his failures, mistakes, etc ... and kept fighting to over come them with hard work. His openness opened the door for us to see him as a blue collar type of person, which is an accurate description of most Wisconsin people.

I'm sure your next reply will contain four words that I will need to look up on Dicitonary.com that explain how how my opinion is wrong and doesn't match you one bit. NonStopPredictable. :)



How come when I talk to someone like this, I'm labeled and asshole, but you get away with it, by putting a smiley face down.


Pick and choose whom you are an asshole to. Make sure they can handle it and have a moderate grasp of your comments intention. There's a few here who understand that even when it appears I'm being an asshole, I'm not. Shawn, Dave and Rourke are a few who I feel understand that even when it may seem like I'm going off on a tirade, I'm more or less just rambling, kind of like now, and not to take it seriously.

I also wouldn't say I get 'away' with it though and I do get labeled and asshole. :) or no :)
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:01:14 PM(UTC)
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Pick and choose whom you are an asshole to. Make sure they can handle it and have a moderate grasp of your comments intention. There's a few here who understand that even when it appears I'm being an asshole, I'm not. Shawn, Dave and Rourke are a few who I feel understand that even when it may seem like I'm going off on a tirade, I'm more or less just rambling, kind of like now, and not to take it seriously.

I also wouldn't say I get 'away' with it though and I do get labeled and asshole. :) or no :)


Fair enough, by the way I will show no Tater respect ever again, cause they are just wrong.
Zero2Cool  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:24:31 PM(UTC)
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Pick and choose whom you are an asshole to. Make sure they can handle it and have a moderate grasp of your comments intention. There's a few here who understand that even when it appears I'm being an asshole, I'm not. Shawn, Dave and Rourke are a few who I feel understand that even when it may seem like I'm going off on a tirade, I'm more or less just rambling, kind of like now, and not to take it seriously.

I also wouldn't say I get 'away' with it though and I do get labeled and asshole. :) or no :)


Fair enough, by the way I will show no Tater respect ever again, cause they are just wrong.


Tater?
IronMan  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:52:57 PM(UTC)
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How come when I talk to someone like this, I'm labeled and asshole, but you get away with it, by putting a smiley face down.


As long as you say, "with all due respect" you can say whatever you want. Its in the Geneva Convention:

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