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gotarace  
#41 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:21:54 AM(UTC)
Makes me a bit nervious to have jordy return kicks and punts. Grant it he has shown flashes in the preseason returning kicks but it sure looks like a good way to get the kid nicked up. What the kick returns have shown is he can break a tackle and hit a seam great ...that makes yac on the recieving end. But i think we would be better searved keeping blackmon back there and having jordy fresh for recieving duties. We could use jordy as a second tightend in passing downs. He has the size of a tightend and could really add a surehanded addittion in that role. Also a great addition to the big 5 package.
strobl2  
#42 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:54:44 AM(UTC)
I think you put jordy at kick return and then keep blackmon at punt return just because he has more experience back there.
zombieslayer  
#43 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:57:05 PM(UTC)
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I want him to break Hester's face.


:lol:

Zero - You don't have the rotflmao smilie. We need that one.
zombieslayer  
#44 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:59:32 PM(UTC)
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Makes me a bit nervious to have jordy return kicks and punts. Grant it he has shown flashes in the preseason returning kicks but it sure looks like a good way to get the kid nicked up. What the kick returns have shown is he can break a tackle and hit a seam great ...that makes yac on the recieving end. But i think we would be better searved keeping blackmon back there and having jordy fresh for recieving duties. We could use jordy as a second tightend in passing downs. He has the size of a tightend and could really add a surehanded addittion in that role. Also a great addition to the big 5 package.


You play to win games. Keep in mind, Desmond Howard was MVP of our last SB win.

We have 3 guys who can get us consistent YAC - Driver, Jennings, and Jones. We need someone back there on KR duty to get us good field position. Jordy fills that role.

Blackmon can handle our punts.
all_about_da_packers  
#45 Posted : Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:03:04 PM(UTC)
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We have 3 guys who can get us consistent YAC - Driver, Jennings, and Jones. We need someone back there on KR duty to get us good field position. Jordy fills that role.


But as good as Blackmon does?

I don't think so.

The thing is, Blackmon has shown a ton of potential in limited opportunities as KR, and Tramon Williams was quite good and gave us good returns at clutch times.

I'd rather have those two start as the returners, I think you have to play it safe with Blackmon's injury history, but that doesn't mean reducing Blackmon's opportunities to display his playmaking skills.
zombieslayer  
#46 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 1:26:02 PM(UTC)
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But as good as Blackmon does?

I don't think so.

The thing is, Blackmon has shown a ton of potential in limited opportunities as KR, and Tramon Williams was quite good and gave us good returns at clutch times.

I'd rather have those two start as the returners, I think you have to play it safe with Blackmon's injury history, but that doesn't mean reducing Blackmon's opportunities to display his playmaking skills.


Did you see the Niners game? Jordy was SICK on KRs.

Yes, it's a small sample size, but if he continues to play like that...
SINCITYCHEEZE  
#47 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 2:13:17 PM(UTC)
I'm going to hold off making any judgements until I see what he can do against a teams first string S.T.'s. But I'm hoping for more of what I saw against the Niners.
Zero2Cool  
#48 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 3:05:27 PM(UTC)
Jordy won't be good on PR, he's done nice on KR
Blackmon won't do good on KR, he's proven he's good on PR.

KR and PR are two different animals.
all_about_da_packers  
#49 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 3:19:06 PM(UTC)
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Jordy won't be good on PR, he's done nice on KR
Blackmon won't do good on KR, he's proven he's good on PR.

KR and PR are two different animals.



Granted they are two different things, but to state that Nelson/Blackmon won't be good on one or the other is jumping the gun, no?

Blackmon has some experience at WR from college, he returned kicks in college also, so it isn't as if he's totally foreign on kickoffs.

He has playmaking ability, he can definitely succeed in both return positions.

As for Jordy, when I see a 6'2/6'3 WR with above average WR strength, and most importantly returners like Blackmon and Williams ahead of him, I think he's more valuable as a blocker on ST.
Zero2Cool  
#50 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 3:23:25 PM(UTC)
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Jordy won't be good on PR, he's done nice on KR
Blackmon won't do good on KR, he's proven he's good on PR.

KR and PR are two different animals.



Granted they are two different things, but to state that Nelson/Blackmon won't be good on one or the other is jumping the gun, no?

Blackmon has some experience at WR from college, he returned kicks in college also, so it isn't as if he's totally foreign on kickoffs.

He has playmaking ability, he can definitely succeed in both return positions.

As for Jordy, when I see a 6'2/6'3 WR with above average WR strength, and most importantly returners like Blackmon and Williams ahead of him, I think he's more valuable as a blocker on ST.



Watch the scouting tapes.
pack_in_black  
#51 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 3:26:34 PM(UTC)
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.....


The thing is, Blackmon has shown a ton of potential in limited opportunities as KR, ..... .




...aaaand he's an excellent conductor/dancer. Did you see him in the Niners game before the punt? Yeah, Blackmon is one skilled motha!
all_about_da_packers  
#52 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 3:27:03 PM(UTC)
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Watch the scouting tapes.


Hm...

1) Can't 'cuz I don't have any.

2) Can't 'cuz I don't have time.

3) .... don't got much else.


But seriously, I'm not ready to give up on Blackmon as KR yet, he deserves a chance to prove himself considering his record at BC.

By 'a chance', I mean a few consistent opportunities uninterrupted by injuries.
all_about_da_packers  
#53 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 3:27:58 PM(UTC)
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The thing is, Blackmon has shown a ton of potential in limited opportunities as KR, ..... .




...aaaand he's an excellent conductor/dancer. Did you see him in the Niners game before the punt? Yeah, Blackmon is one skilled motha!



Ditto Bush. Kid is phresh.
Zero2Cool  
#54 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 3:36:34 PM(UTC)
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Watch the scouting tapes.


Hm...

1) Can't 'cuz I don't have any.

2) Can't 'cuz I don't have time.

3) .... don't got much else.


But seriously, I'm not ready to give up on Blackmon as KR yet, he deserves a chance to prove himself considering his record at BC.

By 'a chance', I mean a few consistent opportunities uninterrupted by injuries.


I said to give up on him?

I thought I had said KR and PR are different animals. Hmm. I don't think either will be good at the other because of that. I wouldn't give up on them though because plenty have made a helluva career at doing both.

Maybe I should have worded it as such, don't think because someone is good at PR they will be as good at KR and vice versa. Maybe that's more clear. :)
all_about_da_packers  
#55 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 3:48:41 PM(UTC)
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Maybe I should have worded it as such, don't think because someone is good at PR they will be as good at KR and vice versa. Maybe that's more clear. :)



Tons more, I get what you were trying to say now.

Can't disagree with that.

I wonder who exactly our KRs are after Blackmon / Williams. On PR, I'd guess C-Wood, but not quite sure about Kr. Hope I don't have to find out while watching an actual game though.
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