Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
2 Pages12>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:55:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 5,558
Applause Received: 1,277
http://www.nationalfootb...ome-back-Favre-9618.html

" said: Go to Quoted Post
Im curious to the reaction from Packers fans after Team President Mark Murphy stated that the club would eventually retire Brett Favres number. Three MVPs, the Super Bowl win, etc, etc.

But we all know it comes with a slight catch.

The retirement press conference followed by the one season with the Jets and the last two in Minnesota with the Vikings. And we can all agree that playing across the state border for Brad Childress is the most revengeful move Favre could have pulled as a player.

We dont need to dive into the back story here, the reason Favre originally retired or the odd relationship that was formed with the front office and coaching staff in Green Bay once he came back to play football on Sundays again.

However, I have to admit that I still loved watching him play football the last three seasons. Didnt care about the numbers, the wins, etc. In my opinion, he was a special player and provided that unique entertainment value every Sunday.

And it was the same way when I played up in Green Bay with Favre in 2001 and 2002. I was a fan when the offense was on the field and I couldnt sit down when he was under center. You anticipated the unexpected results (both good and bad) with No.4. Thats how he playedand he won a lot of football games in that green and gold uniform.

But what about now, today, as we look at Favre? Retire the number; welcome him back to Green Bay? Pretend the last three years were part of our imagination?

Thats too easy, because it isnt going to happen overnight. I get thatwe all should. This is going to take time. Happens when opinions and beliefs are changed towards a pro athlete. And the off the field situation in New York doesnt help in any way with public opinion towards Favre.

Favre, himself, has to know this. The minute he decided to play football again and seek out his own revenge against the organization was the time this all changed. If there is such a thing as true loyalty in pro sports anymore, Favre crushed that when he went to play for the Jetsand especially the Vikings.

But that still doesnt diminish what he did wearing a Packers uniform. He was a hell of a football player up north and did as much as you could for one organization. Wasnt perfect, and that is not the angle I am taking here. However, he was one of the greatest players of all time in Green Bayand the NFL.

He deserves to see his number retired, but emotions and opinions need time to settle and relax. Favre should have his day when Packers fansand the organizationwant him back. Until then we can keep our own thoughts on what transpired after that day when he broke down in front of the media in Green Bay, telling us he was done.

I have no issue seeing that No.4 retired for good once Packers fans have had time to step back and see how important he was to the franchise. Because he is still one of my favoritesand that wont change.

What do you think? Let me know




My problem with the whole situation is Favre's own hypocrisy. He tries to come off as old school, playing with his heart and all that bullshit. Now he wants to come back and say, "It's just a business?" Please. You can't have it both ways.
If it's just a business then it's just a business. If you want us to revere you as an "old school" kind of guy whose play is based on "heart," then you can't feed us that bullshit about how loyalties don't matter. Period.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#2 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:21:29 PM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,353
Applause Received: 3,645
Where did Brett Favre say him going to other teams was just a business?
Offline Dexter_Sinister  
#3 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:14:48 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 6/12/2010(UTC)
Applause Given: 292
Applause Received: 266
I wouldn't offer him forgiveness. If he came to the people of Packer Nation, owned up to his actions and sincerely apologized, then sure.

If he pulls a Pete Rose and apologizes like Bluto after he smashed the guitar. Then not a chance.

Just admitting that the Packers have a good team and will probably will win the super bowl isn't even a start. He can do that and still hate and want to disgrace the organization.

Until he does really apologize, and mean it, he can go pound sand. As far as I am concerned.

That isn't for going to MN, or fake retiring to weasel out of his contract. Or for calling out players for wanting out of their contracts. It is for sticking it to the team by decoding his playbook for the Lions and several other unnamed teams. The sabotage of Rodgers season is such a dishonorable act, I won't look the other way and pretend it didn't happen. Leaving was just being a jerk. The sabotage was disgraceful and I can't respect an honor-less person like that by retiring his jersey.
Offline vegOmatic  
#4 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:27:16 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/11/2008(UTC)
Applause Received: 3
Favre finished his career by becoming a running joke as a jackass and crybaby.

But it's just good business for the NFL leadership to avoid being vindictive even if it's deserved.

So we'll make nice.
Offline DakotaT  
#5 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:47:35 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 994
Applause Received: 2,007
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I wouldn't offer him forgiveness. If he came to the people of Packer Nation, owned up to his actions and sincerely apologized, then sure.

If he pulls a Pete Rose and apologizes like Bluto after he smashed the guitar. Then not a chance.

Just admitting that the Packers have a good team and will probably will win the super bowl isn't even a start. He can do that and still hate and want to disgrace the organization.

Until he does really apologize, and mean it, he can go pound sand. As far as I am concerned.

That isn't for going to MN, or fake retiring to weasel out of his contract. Or for calling out players for wanting out of their contracts. It is for sticking it to the team by decoding his playbook for the Lions and several other unnamed teams. The sabotage of Rodgers season is such a dishonorable act, I won't look the other way and pretend it didn't happen. Leaving was just being a jerk. The sabotage was disgraceful and I can't respect an honor-less person like that by retiring his jersey.


I was where you are now about a year ago. I think they should wait another year a let the current Packers enjoy their championship without interuption.
Online wpr  
#6 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:14:01 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 3,563
Applause Received: 1,799
" said: Go to Quoted Post
Favre finished his career by becoming a running joke as a jackass and crybaby.

But it's just good business for the NFL leadership to avoid being vindictive even if it's deserved.

So we'll make nice.


A 5 year "timeout" will ease the hurt feelings by the fans and the parties involved. when he is a first ballot HOFer there will be no reason to withhold the honor of formally retiring his jersey. No one is going to get the #4 between now and then anyway.
Offline rabidgopher04  
#7 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:35:31 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 132
Applause Received: 158
" said: Go to Quoted Post
A 5 year "timeout" will ease the hurt feelings by the fans and the parties involved. when he is a first ballot HOFer there will be no reason to withhold the honor of formally retiring his jersey. No one is going to get the #4 between now and then anyway.


Unless, of course, if he decides to go into the HOF as a Viking. Then he should definitely not receive any honors from the Packers and they should issue his #4 to a player as soon as possible.
Online wpr  
#8 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:48:52 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 3,563
Applause Received: 1,799
" said: Go to Quoted Post
" said: Go to Quoted Post
A 5 year "timeout" will ease the hurt feelings by the fans and the parties involved. when he is a first ballot HOFer there will be no reason to withhold the honor of formally retiring his jersey. No one is going to get the #4 between now and then anyway.


Unless, of course, if he decides to go into the HOF as a Viking. Then he should definitely not receive any honors from the Packers and they should issue his #4 to a player as soon as possible.


It'll never happen. Brett ... well it will never happen.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:59:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,353
Applause Received: 3,645
" said: Go to Quoted Post
Unless, of course, if he decides to go into the HOF as a Viking. Then he should definitely not receive any honors from the Packers and they should issue his #4 to a player as soon as possible.


I don't believe NFL players go into the Hall of Fame under any team.
Offline rabidgopher04  
#10 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:28:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 132
Applause Received: 158
" said: Go to Quoted Post
" said: Go to Quoted Post
Unless, of course, if he decides to go into the HOF as a Viking. Then he should definitely not receive any honors from the Packers and they should issue his #4 to a player as soon as possible.


I don't believe NFL players go into the Hall of Fame under any team.


Damn, I must be thinking baseball.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Smokey (3h): \_/
Smokey (5h): WHAT ?
Smokey (5h): Hip Hip Hooray ! John Wilkes Booth shoots Abe Lincoln !
Zero2Cool (6h): lol seriously??
uffda udfa (6h): Vikes fans are talking about Johnny Football.
Cheesey (6h): Well...being on the Vikings alone could cause cursing and throwing helmets!
uffda udfa (6h): Achilles?
Smokey (6h): Teammates seen cursing and throwing helmets .
Smokey (6h): Bridgewater/non-contact injury to L. knee/leg .
Zero2Cool (7h): Whoa Teddy bridgewater just went down looks serious Vikings end practice
Zero2Cool (8h): HEY! It could be a 6th rounder that turns into four 7th rounder (aka Jeff Janis!)
uffda udfa (8h): We really needed a 2018 7th rounder. Will really help DL issue.
uffda udfa (8h): Yes it is. Didn't see that blockbuster coming. Glad we got what's needed.
Zero2Cool (8h): Some uffda udfa recently claimed Packers never trade. HA, jokes on that clown!!! Bahahahahahahahah
uffda udfa (9h): TT with trade. Lerentee McCray to Bills for 2018 draft choice. 2018?
uffda udfa (13h): Blackman officially waived. Perillo our 3rd TE and Randall starter opposite Shields.
uffda udfa (13h): Crockett, Blackman and Henry expected to be waived per Demovsky
uffda udfa (30-Aug): Chargers cut our old friend, James Jones.
Zero2Cool (29-Aug): Packers release Peter Mortell.
Zero2Cool (29-Aug): Laser Gunns, why two accounts?
Zero2Cool (29-Aug): Patriots released DT Terrance Knighton
Zero2Cool (29-Aug): I'm glad you're back uffda. Keep it strong!
Zero2Cool (29-Aug): Cullen acknowledged he was wrong already. I guess I just dismiss bad blood on that fact.
Zero2Cool (29-Aug): Type F blood = bad blood bahahaha
uffda udfa (29-Aug): Definite bad blood. Cullen felt disrespect with no comm from TT at any point.
uffda udfa (29-Aug): Paul Kruger released by Browns. Cagy vet 3-4 DL we could use.
Zero2Cool (29-Aug): Bad blood? Hahhaha no!
Zero2Cool (29-Aug): Shallow to understand the Vikings aren't football? Lighten up buttercup!
uffda udfa (29-Aug): Cullen Jenkins working out for Skins. Should be for us. Bad blood there.
DoddPower (29-Aug): Fellow PackersHome members need you!
DoddPower (29-Aug): Opening in Pack Attack keeper league. Message me if you're interested.
Smokey (28-Aug): 3:30 PM Pizza Delivery !
Smokey (28-Aug): I'm not that shallow, I like all football games .
Zero2Cool (28-Aug): Shit I need to fix this shout so we can hit ENTER.
Zero2Cool (28-Aug): It was losing your arms or watch the game wasn't it?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

Road To Super Bowl LI
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 12:00 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
21m / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

33m / Green Bay Packers Talk / macbob

41m / Green Bay Packers Talk / mi_keys

1h / Around The NFL / DarkaneRules

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

6h / Around The NFL / Cheesey

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / luigis

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / RaiderPride

21h / Fantasy Sports Talk / Smokey

23h / Around The NFL / wpr

23h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn


Packers Headlines