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Greg C.  
#101 Posted : Monday, August 1, 2011 3:04:26 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
The Buccaneers, very true, they are a threat as well. I'm liking Josh Freeman, seems like a good QB.




I thought it was pretty obvious I was referring to the new acquisitions. I never said any of them were ego guys, but there's no denying they have ego's as do most players in any professional sport. It's how they mesh together under their new defensive coordinator who spent a dozen or so years as an offensive line coach that will play key to their success.

I've already outlined this "theory" of mine in an earlier post and am too lazy to find it in this thread, lol.


Okay. I wasn't really trying to refute what you said anyway. I just said that the fact that they are not ego guys leads me to think that this won't be a big issue.
Zero2Cool  
#102 Posted : Monday, August 1, 2011 3:19:26 PM(UTC)
Greg C. said: Go to Quoted Post
Okay. I wasn't really trying to refute what you said anyway. I just said that the fact that they are not ego guys leads me to think that this won't be a big issue.


Yeah, I'm not saying they have Moss and Owens type egos and need to get them on the same page or nothing. I just don't think everything will come together the first season as well as some (I feel) are projecting.

I think the biggest problem they will have is getting those players to buy into their new defensive coordinators scheme, even more so because he comes from being an offensive line coach. Then again, Andy Reid was a position coach then head coach and he got his guys to buy into him.


I suppose I just don't feel its as cut an dry as it seems some make it out to be. Such as, oh they got this guy, that guy, SUPER BOWL FAVORITES!!

mi_keys  
#103 Posted : Monday, August 1, 2011 3:41:06 PM(UTC)
GoPack1984 said: Go to Quoted Post
I see the Bucs being a threat in the NFC. They might be better than the Falcons. I've seen a lot of preliminary "rankings" of the top 5 or 10 teams in the NFL, and the number of people who include the Cowboys is ridiculous. They need new CBs in a bad way. I see the Lions potentially being good, maybe better than the Bears.

Top 5 in NFC
Packers
Eagles
Buccaneers
Falcons
Saints


I could be wrong and the Bucs might threaten next year but I doubt they will. They didn't beat a single team with a winning record last year until week 17 when the Saints sat their starters in the 4th quarter of a tight (and meaningless, for them) game. 6 of their wins came against the NFC West and the Carolina Panthers. It's hard for any team to play as poorly as the Panthers did last year and the Bucs won't get the benefit of playing the NFC West again this season. They could improve as a team and finish 8-8 or 9-7 considering their schedule will likely be more difficult this year. I like the direction they're headed but they are still a ways off until they show they can beat the big boys.
dhazer  
#104 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 5:02:33 AM(UTC)
I understand what Zero is saying but he is forgetting that if you have 3 shut down corners that takes alot of pressure off your d-line and lbs to get pressure on the qb. We showed that last year with our corners locking down wrs long enough for us to get sacks. Also its not like the new defensive coordinator won't know whats going on, he sat in the same practices and played against the old defense alot. The main factor for the Eagles will be Vick and as a lot of the experts are saying Vick won't make the full 16 games as history has shown, if he gets seriously injured I think the Eagles will limp into the playoffs on their defense alone.
Zero2Cool  
#105 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 6:08:57 AM(UTC)
dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
I understand what Zero is saying but he is forgetting that if you have 3 shut down corners that takes alot of pressure off your d-line and lbs to get pressure on the qb. We showed that last year with our corners locking down wrs long enough for us to get sacks. Also its not like the new defensive coordinator won't know whats going on, he sat in the same practices and played against the old defense alot. The main factor for the Eagles will be Vick and as a lot of the experts are saying Vick won't make the full 16 games as history has shown, if he gets seriously injured I think the Eagles will limp into the playoffs on their defense alone.


You slurping that hype ding ding too huh? You're forgetting they do not have three shut down corners.

Packers_Finland  
#106 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 6:38:05 AM(UTC)
dhazer said: Go to Quoted Post
I understand what Zero is saying but he is forgetting that if you have 3 shut down corners that takes alot of pressure off your d-line and lbs to get pressure on the qb. We showed that last year with our corners locking down wrs long enough for us to get sacks. Also its not like the new defensive coordinator won't know whats going on, he sat in the same practices and played against the old defense alot. The main factor for the Eagles will be Vick and as a lot of the experts are saying Vick won't make the full 16 games as history has shown, if he gets seriously injured I think the Eagles will limp into the playoffs on their defense alone.


DRC is not a shutdown corner, and neither is Samuel. DRC is a solid, but not spectacular player, Samuel is a ballhawk who gives up more plays than he should. Asomugha is their only true shutdown corner.

Also, run the ball. With the Eagles linebackers looking like they do, that shouldn't be too hard.
DoddPower  
#107 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:12:17 AM(UTC)
I've already said it, but the Packers are still the team to beat in the NFC, and every analyst on NFL Network agrees with me so far. Sure, that may change due to injuries, etc., but that's always the case. Samuel will likely be traded which will definitely give our secondary the edge, if not even with him. We have the better QB and the better offense (defenses will continue to slow Vick down). Our defenses might be close and could go either way, but I believe ours will be every bit as good or better. Vick and the Eagles will be explosive, but we will be much more consistent, especially in the playoffs when Rodgers turns into a Hall of Fame QB somehow.

I'm not minimizing the significance of their moves. They should definitely win the division and be a force. The Packers are still better, however, and I think that will become apparent by the end of the regular season.

DoddPower  
#108 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:14:14 AM(UTC)
Packers_Finland said: Go to Quoted Post
DRC is not a shutdown corner, and neither is Samuel. DRC is a solid, but not spectacular player, Samuel is a ballhawk who gives up more plays than he should. Asomugha is their only true shutdown corner.

Also, run the ball. With the Eagles linebackers looking like they do, that shouldn't be too hard.


I agree that DRC is not an elite CB. However, someone made a pretty good point that he should be close while covering the #2 WR on MOST teams. Of course with our depth on offense, it won't really matter, but he should be able to give several teams #2 WR a good bit of trouble.
Since69  
#109 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:43:49 AM(UTC)
OH NOES! The Iggles got DRC and Jason Babin and Cullen Jenkins and the dude from Oakland with the funny name!

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Game over, man! Game over!




Two words: Miami. Heat.
Zero2Cool  
#110 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 8:57:53 AM(UTC)
Asante Samuel said:
I want to be where I’m wanted, If they’re tired of my big playmaking ability, they can ship me out.


I think the Eagles move Asante in the next couple weeks, maybe later if they wait for a team to lose a starting CB so they can get more?

My impression of Samuel is he's a high risk high reward CB.
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#111 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 9:19:15 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post


My impression of Samuel is he's a high risk high reward CB.


My impression is that he's a pussy and tackles like a woman. Basically he's a cover 2 corner making shut down corner money. I hope they can't find a trade partner.
Wade  
#112 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 3:48:24 PM(UTC)
I feel about Asante Samuel about the way I do about Darren Sharper. He has a few more flashier interceptions, and is out of position more and tackles worse than most DBs.


DoddPower  
#113 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:09:15 PM(UTC)
Since69 said: Go to Quoted Post
Two words: Miami. Heat.


But that would mean they at least made it to the Super Bowl. I hope that's not the case! lol.
macbob  
#114 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 5:16:47 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Why? Maybe I'm over confident


You're overconfident.

21-16. Last minute interception required to seal the win when the Eagles were driving.

Since then, they've added:

Nnamdi Asomugha, Pro-bowl CB
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Pro-bowl CB to go with Asante Samuel, Pro-bowl CB

Jason Babin, Pro-bowl DE, 12.5 sacks
Cullen Jenkins, DT
Vince Young, QB
Ronnie Brown, RB

Getting these guys to jell as a team with the short prep time may be an issue, but that remains to be seen.
dfosterf  
#115 Posted : Tuesday, August 2, 2011 5:53:48 PM(UTC)
We don't know. It's all specualtive bullshit.

Eagles look vastly improved on paper.

Pack looks awesome on paper.

They were one very-fine-line interception from going past us.


Last year is looking more and more irrelevant, to me. We have to "hold serve" in week one, then we can

re-evaluate. Beat the Saints to set us up again, imo.

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Zero2Cool  
#116 Posted : Wednesday, August 3, 2011 6:16:29 AM(UTC)
macbob said: Go to Quoted Post
You're overconfident.

21-16. Last minute interception required to seal the win when the Eagles were driving.

Since then, they've added:

Nnamdi Asomugha, Pro-bowl CB
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Pro-bowl CB to go with Asante Samuel, Pro-bowl CB

Jason Babin, Pro-bowl DE, 12.5 sacks
Cullen Jenkins, DT
Vince Young, QB
Ronnie Brown, RB

Getting these guys to jell as a team with the short prep time may be an issue, but that remains to be seen.


The fact you didn't mention anything about whom the Packers picked up or are getting back says volumes. I guess I'm not into paper champs, I'm into teams who actually win, even if it's sealed by a 4th quarter interception. Why? Because a win is what matters, not what looks good on paper or who has the most popular bowl players, oops, I mean pro bowl players.

I don't question the talent the Eagles have, I just know that quite a few are over hyping them quite a bit.

I do agree that last year is last year, but if you say that, you shouldn't talk about pro bowl's because that was years past as well. :)
Zero2Cool  
#117 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 7:23:06 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
After landing Nnamdi Asomugha I was thinking they'll have a solid secondary if they don't trade one of the other two CB's. Then they got Vince Young and I started thinking of the Miami Heat because with Vince Young, if Vick goes down, they won't have to change their offensive flow too much to fit Young's style.

Now they have Cullen Jenkins and I'm not as worried as I probably should be. When you add this many pieces, it takes time for them to gel. We've seen this same type of thing happen with other teams and they rarely meet expectations.


I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles go 9 - 7 or 10 - 6 and are one and done, again in 2011.


Apparently, I may have given the Eagles a win or two too many in my prediction.
Cheesey  
#118 Posted : Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:32:10 PM(UTC)
Stick a fork in the "Dream team". They are DONE.
All that money spent, and they will be "Home for the playoffs".
JustinAVA182  
#119 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:13:14 AM(UTC)
Quote:
Two years after a heady binge in free agency backfired on the Philadelphia Eagles, the Eagles' decision-makers are determined to learn from their mistakes.
Quote:
"I think it's a different situation than coming off a 4-12 season," Roseman said. "For us, we're always going to try to be smart and be aggressive. But at the same token, to not learn from that and how important it is to build a team and to build the right environment ... I think that's key going forward."
This was on the 6th ...http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0...t&utm_medium=twitter

Quote:


The Sacramento Bee reports the Eagles are interested in free agent DL Ricky Jean-Francois.
Jean-Francois has had one of the hotter markets since the season ended. He's been connected to upwards of six teams. A bit player in San Francisco for the past four seasons, Jean-Francois has been a fine run defender and can fit in any defense. He would likely play defensive end in Philly.


Quote:


The Philadelphia Inquirer passes along a rumor that Eagles GM Howie Roseman is "crunching numbers" and "putting together an offer" to acquire Darrelle Revis.
It would make plenty of sense. The Eagles are sickly thin at the cornerback position with the impending and inevitable departures of Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, and they have a boat load of cap space in order to meet Revis' salary demands. Beat writer Jeff McLane speculates Philly could package the No. 35 overall pick with a future pick to entice the Jets. New York is reportedly "determined" to trade Revis prior the the draft.
This today lol... http://www.rotoworld.com.../nfl/4155/darrelle-revis

http://www.rotoworld.com...5122/ricky-jean-francois



SI's Peter King expects the Eagles to show interest in free agent Danny Amendola.
King notes that new coach Chip Kelly wants players who can "play fast and smart," and Amendola fits the bill when healthy. Philadelphia could save cap space by releasing incumbent slot receiver Jason Avant, and make a big upgrade by replacing him with Amendola. Expect Amendola to command $6 million a year. oh this too lol.
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