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Laser Gunns  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:06:14 AM(UTC)
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Gregg Rosenthal said:
With so much attention being paid to the Packers’ sluggish offense early in training camp, it’s easy to overlook the defense.

Defensive coordinator Dom Capers’ group should be primed for a big year in their third season in the system. Promising defensive end Mike Neal and outside linebacker Brad Jones return from injury to bolster the group.

Despite losing Cullen Jenkins, the starting defensive line looks strong. It also may look a little different.

Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, who deservedly was honored with the Dick McCann award at the Hall of Fame last weekend, reports that the Packers are looking to move B.J. Raji from nose tackle to defensive end. He would trade places with Ryan Pickett.

“I love it,” Raji said. “The coaches are giving it a shot. It’s our job, particularly me and ‘Pick,’ to prove them right. We’ve done a good job at practice.”

Raji would have a chance to make more plays in the alignment lining up against guards; Raji is reportedly having a great camp. It plays to Pickett’s strengths too as a space eater. Neal would be on the other side.

If the Packers are going to maintain or improve this year, it will have to come from their young players developing. Raji and Neal are near the top of the list of players that can get better.


I've always thought Pickett was a bad fit at DE, he's too big. Raji can be disruptive anywhere.

good move IMO =d>
Rockmolder  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:22:22 AM(UTC)
RajiRoar said: Go to Quoted Post
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I've always thought Pickett was a bad fit at DE, he's too big. Raji can be disruptive anywhere.

good move IMO =d>


Raji is just as big. It's just that Pickett is more of an immovable object, while Raji has some amazing pass rushing skills for a man of his size.

I like that push from your NT spot. Not allowing that QB to step up gives your pass rush such an added dimention. But yeah, Raji should get more of a shot to actually get to the QB this way, I guess.

In the end, I don't know how big of a move this is. With the amount of times we line up with 2 D-linemen (I asume those will be Raji and Neal, most of the time), the psycho package, a 4-down line, an unbalanced line where we the NT playing over the guard etc. it just feels like very little actually changes.
Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:27:51 AM(UTC)
earthquake  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:34:30 AM(UTC)
I was a little surprised that he was moved to NT last year anyway, but honestly, no matter where they line this guy up; he's going to make plays.

What was it, 6.5 sacks from the NT position last year? Nuts.

In reality, since the packers use a 2-4-5 moreso than they actually use a 3-4-4, this move doesn't have that much effect I wouldn't imagine. I mean, in the 2-4-5, Raji is going to be playing essentially the same position right? Picket will come off and there wont really be a NT.
nyrpack  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:11:15 PM(UTC)
as long as he stuffs the run, he can line up anywhere !!
dfosterf  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:49:26 PM(UTC)
DHaze wanted Crabdouche over B.J.

Some-day that boy is going to listen to 'ol Dfoster. Flapper

I love Raji, imo, he is UNDER rated.

bozz_2006  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:18:53 PM(UTC)
I think his days of being under-rated are quickly coming to a close.
Greg C.  
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:34:57 AM(UTC)
Rockmolder and earthquake are on top of this one. Because of all of the different defensive alignments, this is not a huge move if they make it. It is just another wrinkle that Capers is adding. Last year, Raji was moved to NT to maximize his effectiveness, because that was where he was most comfortable, but it put Pickett at a position where he was not at his best. Now Raji is comfortable enough and good enough to be moved around again. It will be fun to see how this works out, if they do it.
Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:21:17 AM(UTC)
Greg C. said: Go to Quoted Post
Rockmolder and earthquake are on top of this one. Because of all of the different defensive alignments, this is not a huge move if they make it. It is just another wrinkle that Capers is adding. Last year, Raji was moved to NT to maximize his effectiveness, because that was where he was most comfortable, but it put Pickett at a position where he was not at his best. Now Raji is comfortable enough and good enough to be moved around again. It will be fun to see how this works out, if they do it.


I don't know for sure on this, but I could have sworn I read B.J. Raji say he'd rather play end than nose tackle and said he'd just do what the coaches wanted or something like that.
DarkaneRules  
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:30:50 AM(UTC)
I remember hearing an interview on the radio where Raji said he would be honest and say if he had a preference it would be at end but that he knew he was drafted as a NT so he would do anything he was asked to do to learn that spot.
beast  
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:03:19 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know for sure on this, but I could have sworn I read B.J. Raji say he'd rather play end than nose tackle and said he'd just do what the coaches wanted or something like that.


I think Raji (as a lot of pass rushes) just prefers to play one gap which is attack that gap, get to the ball carrier and tackle them. Compared to two gap, where it's more read and react and more so let the play come to you. In the 3-4 set the NT normally plays two gap (which Pickett loves and is best at)

So this move should make Raji happy because he doesn't have to play two gap as often and make Pickett happy because he gets his NT and two gap spot back.

But I don't know how Raji would do at the 5 technique where Pickett played last year and Neal is going to play because usually it's better to have some length there with longer arms, which I think also hurt Pickett there last year. But in a one gap 3 technique Raji should do GREAT!
Greg C.  
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:21:50 PM(UTC)
DarkaneRules said: Go to Quoted Post
I remember hearing an interview on the radio where Raji said he would be honest and say if he had a preference it would be at end but that he knew he was drafted as a NT so he would do anything he was asked to do to learn that spot.


So maybe it wasn't a comfort thing, as I wrote, but rather, the coaches just thought it would be better in the long run to have Raji focus on the NT position, whether he liked it or not. Or maybe the interview you heard was from this year, and Raji had changed his opinion on the matter since last year.
GermanGilbert  
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:10:33 PM(UTC)
I was really pissed when Ted Thompson selected Raji. That said, it just proofs, that Ted Thompson is a genious while I'm an idiot :D This guy makes plays and I really don't care if he does that from the NT or DE spot.
blueleopard  
#14 Posted : Friday, August 12, 2011 6:49:47 PM(UTC)
GermanGilbert said: Go to Quoted Post
I was really pissed when Ted Thompson selected Raji. That said, it just proofs, that Ted Thompson is a genious while I'm an idiot :D This guy makes plays and I really don't care if he does that from the NT or DE spot.


You're probably the only one, because everybody wanted Green Bay to pick Raji.

Raji can play anywhere. When we had Pickett as Nose, we were #1 against the run. We didn't do as well last year. I'm not questioning the change at all.
wpr  
#15 Posted : Friday, August 12, 2011 7:02:30 PM(UTC)
blueleopard said: Go to Quoted Post
You're probably the only one, because everybody wanted Green Bay to pick Raji.

Raji can play anywhere. When we had Pickett as Nose, we were #1 against the run. We didn't do as well last year. I'm not questioning the change at all.



nope. dhazer wanted to get Crabs.
CaliforniaCheez  
#16 Posted : Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:05:42 PM(UTC)
1) He played end as a rookie and Pickett played Nose Tackle.

2) By changing around a bit they have more flexibility.

3) They play a lot of "nickel" so it could be those are the only linemen a many downs.

4) Green is a run and short yardage specialist. Wilson is a capable back up. Much depends on Neal and how much technique he developes besides his bull rush.

5) I look for them to add a D-linman in the first 3 round of next years draft.

Zero2Cool  
#17 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:21:23 PM(UTC)
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I've always thought Pickett was a bad fit at DE, he's too big. Raji can be disruptive anywhere.

good move IMO =d>


His first pre-season he was consistently knocking his opponent off the ball. He was looking like a force. Not sure what happened. Maybe that ankle never healed?
DakotaT  
#18 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:59:52 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
His first pre-season he was consistently knocking his opponent off the ball. He was looking like a force. Not sure what happened. Maybe that ankle never healed?


He got really lazy.

Must be light activity in the forum if you're resurrecting old threads again?
nerdmann  
#19 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:01:38 PM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
He got really lazy.

Must be light activity in the forum if you're resurrecting old threads again?


Dunno man. Maybe he's just hurt. lol

We both know how this team reports injuries. I mean, DOESN'T report injuries.
Laser Gunns  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, January 29, 2014 2:47:00 PM(UTC)
Raji had 12 tackles this year.

12.

let that sink in.

tackles, sacks

2009: 19, 1 (was rotational DE at that point)
2010: 39, 6.5 (super bowl year)
2011: 14, 3
2012: 16, 0
2013: 12, 0

the fatty just quit after he got his ring and State Farm ad.
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