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Offline Trippster  
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:39:40 PM(UTC)
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This is another subject I talked about with an insider last night.

Brohm is not grasping the offense mentally, at ALL.
Flynn has grasp of it quickly.


Also, he talked about how the defense was going to struggle. no ruch. only two sacks all preseason. How losing Williams was much more of a big deal than anyone realizes. That in order to put pressure on the QB we will need to blitz much more and that would require Rouse to do it as Bigby is not as fast to the QB. interesting takes.
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This is another subject I talked about with an insider last night.

Brohm is not grasping the offense mentally, at ALL.
Flynn has grasp of it quickly.


Also, he talked about how the defense was going to struggle. no ruch. only two sacks all preseason. How losing Williams was much more of a big deal than anyone realizes. That in order to put pressure on the QB we will need to blitz much more and that would require Rouse to do it as Bigby is not as fast to the QB. interesting takes.


See, McCarthy said that mentally Brohm has grasped the offense better than he's seen anyone. That's either a lie or one helluva slam on some others lol
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#13 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:03:02 PM(UTC)
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You cant look at these moves as seperate entities. T T didn't just trade Corey Williams for fun, or because he wanted an extra draft pick. Corey was a free agent and was gonna leave because he wasn't gonna A. get paid starter money and B. become a starter. Ted didn't make this move to piss off fans, he made it because he thought it would be better to get something out of a situation where he would likely get nothing.


But the backup QB situation is something that might bite Ted and Mike in the end. Not because these kids arent good, as we don't know that yet. but because they might not be as ready as Mike and Ted would have thought. Remember this is not even close to an issue if Aaron stays healthy. So we don't need to freak out just yet i dont think. I mean Indy has Sorgi as a backup and their QB is legitamately hurt and no one is bashing their management. good QB's dont grow on trees, and many teams are in the same situation we are. These guys still have time to grow and learn throughout the season as long as Arod stays healthy.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:17:29 PM(UTC)
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I think you guys are taking way too much out of preseason regarding the run defense and pass rush. Obviously record means nothing, but I think too much is made about the performance of the starters as well.

Until I see these problems appear in games that actually matter (and with everyone healthy, something that we haven't had all preseason) I'm not going to get bent out of shape.

Of course it would be nice to have Williams back now, but at the time everybody was praising Thompson for getting good value for a player that didn't even want to stay here. Add in our depth at DT (at the time, obviously) and it would have been a mistake to pass on that trade.

Regarding Brohm, of course he's going to look lost out there. Even Peyton Manning (one of the most NFL ready quarterbacks to ever come out) had a terrible first season. The adjustment period for quarterbacks and linemen is much longer than it is for a lot of the skill positions.

The season is lost if Rodgers is out and getting the young QB's some experience is much more important than posting a better record, IMO. This is a team with Super Bowl hopes, not a team trying to post a record above .500, and that's all bringing a veteran in will accomplish.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:08:03 PM(UTC)
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If Tedrow's Packers tank, and Favre takes the Jets deep into the playoffs, Ted should be fired, imo.

This is his M.O.

Sign young guys and don't have a backup plan if they fail. That's why the O-Line is the way it is. That's why we've had a poor RB situation until Grant came along, etc.

One of these days, it's all going to blow up in his face. And this could be the year. :whipitgood:
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#16 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:27:53 PM(UTC)
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You cant look at these moves as seperate entities. T T didn't just trade Corey Williams for fun, or because he wanted an extra draft pick. Corey was a free agent and was gonna leave because he wasn't gonna A. get paid starter money and B. become a starter. Ted didn't make this move to piss off fans, he made it because he thought it would be better to get something out of a situation where he would likely get nothing.


But the backup QB situation is something that might bite Ted and Mike in the end. Not because these kids arent good, as we don't know that yet. but because they might not be as ready as Mike and Ted would have thought. Remember this is not even close to an issue if Aaron stays healthy. So we don't need to freak out just yet i dont think. I mean Indy has Sorgi as a backup and their QB is legitamately hurt and no one is bashing their management. good QB's dont grow on trees, and many teams are in the same situation we are. These guys still have time to grow and learn throughout the season as long as Arod stays healthy.


2 points:

1) Losing Corey Williams is nothing about pissing off the fans. I have no idea how that got in there. We want Corey Williams because he's good. Good players deserve to be paid.
Ted Thompson 's thinking was probably that Harrell will step up and we can save money by Harrell replacing Williams. Bad move. Harrell's injured again, as he probably always will be. I hope not. I hope Harrell turns out to be a Pro Bowler. I just won't bet my piggy bank on it because more than likely, he'll get injured yet again.

2) In the beginning of the preseason, I actually defended Ted Thompson & Mike McCarthy for not picking up a Vet. Why? There's nobody I want. If someone like Brad Johnson was available, then yes. But there's not.

So, let's hope Aaron stays healthy. I don't want to lose Flynn long term. He may end up turning out better than Brohm. So far, he's looking better than Brohm. We pick up a Vet, we lose Flynn. You don't go into opening day with 4 QBs on your roster and if we stuck him on our PS, I will bet my piggy bank that someone else would make him an offer he can't refuse.
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