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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:09:22 PM(UTC)
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When you have something that you care about and it doesn't perform to your standards, it can be quite depressing for lack of a better word. I'm considering several options.

I can prune the database down to two years worth of posts in the Let's Talk Green Bay Packers section.

Pruning
Who would miss that data?
Does anyone actually care to look for that data?
Are there any type of threads that years from now you would want to review?

Prediction threads and GameDay threads are the only topics that I can think that anyone would actually want to review. In that case, we can create a sub forum (Shawn's idea) and place such posts there.

There is no guarantee that pruning the database would even improve the page load times.



New Host
Locate a new host, but then again, we'd have to prune the database to lower than 200MB (Currently we sit at 491MB).



I'm confident the software is not the issue as I've seen other sites have load times generated in 0.133 seconds where as we're seeing pages being generated in 0.438 seconds and sometimes taking 1 second or several seconds to display.


I'm open to all any ideas for improvement, or site diagnostics approaches to improve the site speed.

Offline wpr  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:47:15 PM(UTC)
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I think it would be reasonable to prune old threads. Even the predictions. If they are 3 years old who really cares that back them Pack93 was genius or not?
Offline macbob  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:47:44 PM(UTC)
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Not sure if you've already done something to speed things up, but the pages are loading noticeably quicker for me today.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:13:12 PM(UTC)
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Opened my browser, clicked my PH link.

This page was generated in 5.921 seconds.


That's unacceptable.
Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:56:52 PM(UTC)
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Assuming you haven't changed hosts since the last time you and I talked, I think it is your host that's the root of the problem. I am on the same host with a barebones phpBB installation and a minuscule database of a 5.08 MiB, and I still experience excruciating load times now and then. It's a function of being on a shared server with "unlimited" bandwidth and space. From what I've read, our host is one of the most well-known in the budget hosting business and the slow service is endemic. It's not as bad as GoDaddy, obviously (they're intolerable), but it's not great either. Still, after coupon I paid all of $65 for two years' worth of hosting. I can't complain too much.

I'd rather you didn't prune the old threads. I sometimes cruise through them because they are interesting to me. Or maybe you could create an archive area (a subdomain perhaps) that wouldn't get loaded unless it was specifically visited?
Offline Zero2Cool  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:06:04 PM(UTC)
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I would rather not prune threads, but those more than 6 months old are all messed up, and if I move to a new host, they all seem to have a 200MB cap on them. So I would have to prune anyway.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:50:35 AM(UTC)
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Wish I could afford a dedicated box, but oh well. I made some tweaks and apparently it hasn't helped.

This page was generated in 1.417 seconds.
Offline wpr  
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:55:15 AM(UTC)
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works fine for me:

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Offline Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:02:41 AM(UTC)
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We should be getting page generated in 0.075 seconds type o times.
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2011 4:05:40 PM(UTC)
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The site seems to load quicker on IE9 than FireFox7.
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Smokey (30m) : Fine wpr, U2 has your's and the other's permission to piss on any member at any time. woof
Zero2Cool (36m) : But we can assume if someone doesn't know, they can ask, or perform an internet search. Move on.
Smokey (1h) : Potential NFL Draftees and Players are asked to take it to score how smart they are .
Smokey (1h) : Wonderlic is a cognitive ability test, usually administered to new employees.
Smokey (1h) : It should not just be assumed that everyone knows what,"Wonderlic" is .
Zero2Cool (2h) : Most players don't care about wonderlic. Some agents prep players. Not reasonable standard.
beast (2h) : We shouldn't judge. ..
uffda udfa (2h) : He has a rep for keen football intelligence. Some guys just don't come across as bright.
uffda udfa (2h) : What thing should we judge intelligence on? Wonderlic is out to you. How he sounds is out.. what is criteria?
uffda udfa (2h) : Are you taking issue with him not being particularly bright? Based on what?
beast (2h) : It's sad your judging a person brightness on such shallow things...
shield4life (12h) : Resign Nick Perry
uffda udfa (16h) : Need some strong sharp passionate voices on D. Daniels gives great quotes.
uffda udfa (16h) : Nick Perry seems to be the team leader as he was giving pregame speeches that seemed very uninspiring.
uffda udfa (16h) : Morgan and his 14 wonderlic. Ever hear him talk? Man, not a bright guy at all.
uffda udfa (16h) : Burnett needs to be replaced. That's our leader? Or one of them? No, thanks.
beast (18h) : For the secondary, I think Burnett/Haha are the leaders.
Smokey (18h) : GB needs a new motto : DEFENSE RULES ! , is intended to change the direction of the Packers focus moving forward .
Smokey (18h) : Thank You Zero.
Zero2Cool (18h) : Great reading a thread and seeing "defense rules" spammed in them all. Great reading material.
Smokey (18h) : DEFENSE RULES !
Zero2Cool (19h) : Think you need to defensive leaders. Front Seven and Secondary. We seem to lack both. Daniels is closest.
beast (19h) : Packers players had a right to complain when they were being bullied by Mike Daniels... just talking about Packers ;-) jk
Zero2Cool (19h) : It was the 26th largest margin since 1940. Feels much worse
Zero2Cool (19h) : thought it was biggest margin of victory in Conf Championship, I was mistaken.
Smokey (21h) : Wow ! The Packers got disrespected too !
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uffda udfa (22h) : Can't. MM burned them all.
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