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musccy  
#81 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:18:07 PM(UTC)
1996 Packers vs. Chiefs

1996, Packers went to Arrowhead, Chiefs clocked the Packers to a 27-6 lead before Packers closed it in garbage time. Chewy went down for what looked like it'd be the year. Next week, Packers spanked in Dallas as they were still reeling from Chiefs, but then go on to dominate every other game remainder of the season and onto a SB victory.

Zero2Cool  
#82 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:20:19 PM(UTC)
musccy said: Go to Quoted Post
1996 Packers vs. Chiefs

1996, Packers went to Arrowhead, Chiefs clocked the Packers to a 27-6 lead before Packers closed it in garbage time. Chewy went down for what looked like it'd be the year. Next week, Packers spanked in Dallas as they were still reeling from Chiefs, but then go on to dominate every other game remainder of the season and onto a SB victory.


I had mentioned the '96 team getting spanked by the Chiefs as well. I remember the game because Derrick Mayes made one of my favorite TD catches ever, lol.
nerdmann  
#83 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:21:45 PM(UTC)
I don't think this loss effects our confidence, but I do think it takes pressure off.
go.pack.go.  
#84 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:32:11 PM(UTC)
Hopefully this loss pisses off our team. It should.

Hopefully it will make them go out and beat the shit out of the Bears and Lions, then whoever gets in their way in the playoffs.
Laser Gunns  
#85 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:42:15 PM(UTC)
Walden is wasting space on our D..

i've been watching him specificly for alot of games now. He has no ability to get passed single-blocking, his blitzes consist of running at the OT, pulling up, and getting blocked.

This week however, he unveiled a new tactic! run waaaaay around the tackle, get blocked, then run aaaaalll the way back to the LoS, and get blocked.

(^ I will try to find the video, it's peewee league BS)

no wonder we have such a crappy pass-rush, our ILBs are pulling up before contact too, every fucking time.


he is next to worthless in coverage... I just don't see why he is on the field.
Nonstopdrivel  
#86 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 4:36:51 PM(UTC)
RajiRoar said: Go to Quoted Post
no wonder we have such a crappy pass-rush, our ILBs are pulling up before contact too, every fucking time.

I pointed this out several times during the game, but people just scoffed. It wasn't just our LBs either. There were several instances in the game in which our DBs could have hit the ball carrier and they just pulled up short for no obvious reason. At times it seemed as though they were playing more to avoid injury than win the game. I could see it at game speed, but it was blatant on replay.
PackCard  
#87 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 4:59:09 PM(UTC)
It's nice to be here. This is my first post in this blog.

My observations and analysis of today's loss:

Defensively: It seemed like we were in a prevent defense all day, possibly due to how many times we've been getting beat deep this year. Our guys just seemed to be floating in space and the middle of the field was wide open all day.

We had no pass rush, as was obvious.

Kyle Orton didn't make any mistakes and we had no passes to pick off. Without that part of our game, our defense is impotent.

They ran off left tackle with ease, especially late in the game when we had to stop them and looked terrible trying it.

Offensively: It's scary to think that our receivers may be as dependent on Greg Jennings as it seems. I thought the receivers were bad today. Jordy played as bad a game as I've seen in awhile.

I have almost no confidence in JerMichael Finley. He has way too many drops.

A-Rod doesn't play nearly as well in cold as he does in heat and domes.

Our O-line was injury riddled and terrible at the same time.

Summary: Horrible. Didn't even mention Crosby's missed field goal and Cobb's lack of impact in the return game. Defense was weak, offense was weak, special teams were weak and McCarthy was weak today. Hopefully, this humiliating performance will help us get over ourselves and convince us that we still have plenty to work on. As a fan, I channeled my inner Jim Mora: "PLAYOFFS?! We'll be lucky to win a game! PLAYOFFS?!
go.pack.go.  
#88 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:04:20 PM(UTC)
PackCard, this game was only about 50 degrees, according to the broadcast. Rodgers DOES play good in the cold. He played good today, but he didn't have much time to throw and his receivers had a lot of drops.
nerdmann  
#89 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:18:29 PM(UTC)
go.pack.go. said: Go to Quoted Post
PackCard, this game was only about 50 degrees, according to the broadcast. Rodgers DOES play good in the cold. He played good today, but he didn't have much time to throw and his receivers had a lot of drops.

If Finley doesn't have any drops, except maybe the hard ones, Arodge's stats are far better. (Not to mention we likely win.)
PackCard  
#90 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:18:36 PM(UTC)
I wasn't specific enough with my comment. He's almost perfect in perfect conditions. When it's sloppy, he's not quite as good, which is usually how it is with all QB's. I'm thinking of the NFC title game last year for example when he wasn't as sharp in the 2nd half of the game. He's almost always great every time he's out there but I don't think he's quite as good in cold. No, it wasn't freezing today but it's starting to get there. Still, I'm confident.
go.pack.go.  
#91 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:23:27 PM(UTC)
I don't think the cold effected him as much in the NFCCG as the Bears did. Rodgers always struggles a bit against the Bears.

He played great vs the Giants in the cold last year. But I see where you are coming from.
Nonstopdrivel  
#92 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:27:04 PM(UTC)
PackCard said: Go to Quoted Post
A-Rod doesn't play nearly as well in cold as he does in heat and domes.

Overall, a great post, but I have to take issue with this statement. Whether or not it's true historically -- and I think a look at the overall numbers would contradict you -- this game was not evidence of it. They haven't published the game book over at NFL.com yet, but if I'm not mistaken, the temperature at Arrowhead Stadium today was something like 50°F with light winds at kickoff. It was warmer in Kansas City than it was in Green Bay. Whatever the problems were facing the Packers today, weather played little to no effect.

PackCard said: Go to Quoted Post
Didn't even mention Crosby's missed field goal and Cobb's lack of impact in the return game.

Thanks for bringing that up. I've been waiting for someone to mention Crosby's misses. I was a little shocked by both of those kicks. Neither one was even close. Obviously, a 59-yard attempt is a dicey proposition at the best of times, but those kicks didn't even have a chance. You could see from the moment they left his foot that they were going to miss wide right. The commentators were saying it might have been a bad snap or placement after the first attempt, but two in a row?

PackCard said: Go to Quoted Post
Hopefully, this humiliating performance will help us get over ourselves and convince us that we still have plenty to work on.

The body language of this team throughout the game was appalling. They looked completely apathetic. I was remarking to the guys at the bar as Rodgers walked up to the line of scrimmage on the very first play that he looked like he was in a bad mood before he had taken his first snap. Made me wonder what was going on behind the scenes to have morale look so low. If Dexter_Sinister is right and the team didn't care about the game because they saw it as meaningless, that doesn't say much good about the character of this squad, especially since home field advantage was still theirs for the taking -- against a pathetic team, no less. The Chiefs certainly didn't see it as meaningless, and they had nothing whatsoever to play for.

They came into the game claiming they wanted to leave their stamp on history, but nothing they did today gave the slightest clue that they cared about that at all.
PackCard  
#93 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:28:29 PM(UTC)
I was thinking of that '96 game at Arrowhead, too. That was the worst game we played all year there.
PackCard  
#94 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:30:43 PM(UTC)
I apologize a bit for the cold weather comment. I lived in WI for 17 years but I live in FL now. 50 is cold for down here!
PackCard  
#95 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:32:45 PM(UTC)
I agree about the apoplexy, Nonstop. We didn't look like we cared that much about winning today. If it's a speed bump, I'm cool with it. I just don't want the game today to become a pattern that will trip us up in the postseason. If we win the Super Bowl, I'm kosher with a loss here and there.
Nonstopdrivel  
#96 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:35:59 PM(UTC)
Being beat by a superior opponent when our team is playing to its potential and simply isn't good enough to get it done -- that doesn't bother me. But when my team falls on its face, beating itself in a game against an inferior opponent -- that pisses me off just as much now as when it happened against the 0-10 Colts all those years ago.
go.pack.go.  
#97 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:41:03 PM(UTC)
Yes Crosby missed both times, but I got the impression that he tried to hit it to the right so the wind could carry it in. According to the flags on the uprights, the wind was blowing left pretty hard.
PackCard  
#98 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:41:16 PM(UTC)
I agree. They did match up pretty well against us, though. Good secondary, at least they played well today.
go.pack.go.  
#99 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:43:30 PM(UTC)
RajiRoar said: Go to Quoted Post
Walden is wasting space on our D..

i've been watching him specificly for alot of games now. He has no ability to get passed single-blocking, his blitzes consist of running at the OT, pulling up, and getting blocked.

This week however, he unveiled a new tactic! run waaaaay around the tackle, get blocked, then run aaaaalll the way back to the LoS, and get blocked.

(^ I will try to find the video, it's peewee league BS)

no wonder we have such a crappy pass-rush, our ILBs are pulling up before contact too, every fucking time.


he is next to worthless in coverage... I just don't see why he is on the field.


Tom Silverstein on twitter:

Quote:
#Packers LB Erik Walden said he was benched late for what he admitted was a "poor performance." Zombo was in on plays Chiefs ran outside.
Nonstopdrivel  
#100 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:03:22 PM(UTC)
TXGBFAN said:
Yes Haters – the Packers are beatable. Every team in the NFL is.

HOWEVER – they ARE the best team in the NFL, and it’s not close.

Think of all that had to happen today for the Packers to lose:

1. 3 out of 4 of their OT’s out – including both probowl starters.

2. The Best WR on the team out.

3. The best run stuffing DL on the team out.

4. The best run stuffing LB on the team out.

5. The best safety in the NFL out.

6. 5 sacks. 6 drops.

7. A bad non-call fumble into the end zone by the Chiefs.

8. For the first time all year – no turnovers created by the D.

9. The Chiefs going for broke with all sorts of trick plays. Aggressive playcalling.

And they STILL barely lost. Except Collins and Sherrod, those players are all coming back soon.

IMO – not likely to happen again. I (and 99% of GB fans) did want to go 19-0. But we’ll “settle” for the Super Bowl.


Point 5 is probably laughable. Point 7 is still a source of bewilderment for me. I am surprised McCarthy didn't challenge that play. It should have resulted in a touchback, Green Bay possession.
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