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Offline zombieslayer  
#166 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 10:21:19 AM(UTC)

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Points win games. And doesn't Jerry Jones have 3 SB rings? Yes, he may be in league with Satan, but he's got more SB rings than our current crew. (Hope that changes soon as we all know how I feel about the Cows).
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#167 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 10:32:06 AM(UTC)

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Points win games. And doesn't Jerry Jones have 3 SB rings? Yes, he may be in league with Satan, but he's got more SB rings than our current crew. (Hope that changes soon as we all know how I feel about the Cows).


Wait a tickity-tick! You telling me points win games and not yards? (I keed I keed!)

Comparing Jerry Jones to our 'crew' is a little foolish in my view. He's an owner and the Packers do not have one. Your point stands however that since Jerry Jones has owned the Dallas Cowboys, he has more Super Bowl wins than the Packers over the same period. UNTIL 2015 when the Packers will have MORE. KaPawie! You heard me!

$2.5 million for a 4th string WR is too much.


I wanted a little perspective so I looked up the contract numbers.
Greg Jennings - $3.885 million
Jordy Nelson - $1 million (+ $1.5 million roster bonus)
Randall Cobb - $520,883
James Jones - $2.3 million (+ $200,000 roster bonus)
Donald Driver - $2.0 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus)

That's roughly $12 million for 5 WR. I guess that's fair enough.
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#168 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 10:52:34 AM(UTC)

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Well, I personally don't feel like he's worth as much as Nelson or 2.5 million period. However, perhaps its encouraging to other players to see the Packer's still taking care of an older player. Morale and financial security matters. Overall, that seems like a super low total cost for such a nice WR core.

Am I correct that Finley makes a good bit more than any one of our WR's next season?
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#169 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 11:14:52 AM(UTC)

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rotoworld said:
2/22/2012: Signed a two-year, $14 million contract. The deal included a $1 million signing bonus. Another $1 million is available through incentives. Finley is eligible for $300,000 offseason workout bonuses in each season.
2012: $950,000 (+ $3.5 million roster bonus),
2013: $4.45 million (+ $3.5 million roster bonus due in March),
2014: Free Agent
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#170 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 12:53:05 PM(UTC)

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zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
If our #4 WR gets 6 TD receptions again, he's worth $2.5 million.


It's fricken larceny to pay Driver $2.5 Million at this stage in his career. I hope everyone is happy. My wish is for him to be beat out in training camp so we only waste $500K on a guy that drops a lot of passes and can't outrun any Dbacks anymore. The saddest thing in sports is when aging veterans don't know when to call it a day.

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#171 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 1:02:50 PM(UTC)

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DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
It's fricken larceny to pay Driver $2.5 Million at this stage in his career. I hope everyone is happy. My wish is for him to be beat out in training camp so we only waste $500K on a guy that drops a lot of passes and can't outrun any Dbacks anymore. The saddest thing in sports is when aging veterans don't know when to call it a day.


You wouldn't happen to have the number of drops from the Packers WR group from last season, would you? I think someone posted it awhile back???
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#172 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 4:47:18 PM(UTC)

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DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
It's fricken larceny to pay Driver $2.5 Million at this stage in his career. I hope everyone is happy. My wish is for him to be beat out in training camp so we only waste $500K on a guy that drops a lot of passes and can't outrun any Dbacks anymore. The saddest thing in sports is when aging veterans don't know when to call it a day.



When you need a TD under 10 yards, Driver may still be the best guy on the team for that. Don't argue that with me though. Argue it with Aaron Rodgers. The stats show that that's what Aaron Rodgers thinks. Under 10 yards, he goes to Driver, because Driver catches the dang ball when it matters.

And don't tell me that that's not that important. 7 points > 3 points. I hate settling for field goals when we're in the red zone.
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#173 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 5:03:45 PM(UTC)

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You wouldn't happen to have the number of drops from the Packers WR group from last season, would you? I think someone posted it awhile back???


Yeah, I posted earlier in this thread, but I'm way too lazy to go back, so be my guest.
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#174 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 8:58:56 PM(UTC)

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When you need a TD under 10 yards, Driver may still be the best guy on the team for that. Don't argue that with me though. Argue it with Aaron Rodgers. The stats show that that's what Aaron Rodgers thinks. Under 10 yards, he goes to Driver, because Driver catches the dang ball when it matters.

And don't tell me that that's not that important. 7 points > 3 points. I hate settling for field goals when we're in the red zone.


Do the stats from last season actually support this? I'm not saying they don't, but off hand it doesn't really seem that way to me.
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#175 Posted : Friday, June 1, 2012 9:35:45 PM(UTC)

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When you need a TD under 10 yards, Driver may still be the best guy on the team for that. Don't argue that with me though. Argue it with Aaron Rodgers. The stats show that that's what Aaron Rodgers thinks. Under 10 yards, he goes to Driver, because Driver catches the dang ball when it matters.

And don't tell me that that's not that important. 7 points > 3 points. I hate settling for field goals when we're in the red zone.


DD goes over the middle. Dude is a warrior in that regard.
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#176 Posted : Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:10:37 AM(UTC)

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Do the stats from last season actually support this? I'm not saying they don't, but off hand it doesn't really seem that way to me.


DD was tied for 3rd on the team in catches inside the opponents 10 yardline (4th if you count Kuhn). He was behind Jordy and Finley and tied with Jennings with 4 catches, Jones had 2.
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#177 Posted : Saturday, June 2, 2012 9:51:25 AM(UTC)

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DD was tied for 3rd on the team in catches inside the opponents 10 yardline (4th if you count Kuhn). He was behind Jordy and Finley and tied with Jennings with 4 catches, Jones had 2.



Yeah, that's about what I was thinking. Definitely not too impressive, but not bad either I guess. Who could blame Rodger's for targeting the huge Finley or Nelson more, especially Nelson since Finley had the dropsies last season.
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#178 Posted : Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:23:49 AM(UTC)

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DD was tied for 3rd on the team in catches inside the opponents 10 yardline (4th if you count Kuhn). He was behind Jordy and Finley and tied with Jennings with 4 catches, Jones had 2.


OK. I worded it poorly. I meant TD passes under 10 yards.

Driver had 4 TDs under 10 yards. Finley had 5. Kuhn had 2. Gregorious had 3. Jordy had 4. Jones had 2. And Taylor had 1. So Finley was the only guy on the team that caught more TDs than Driver within 10 yards. That makes sense. He's the TE. That's usually who QBs target for short TD passes.
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#179 Posted : Thursday, June 7, 2012 5:49:13 AM(UTC)

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According to Scout.com

Packers will pay Donald Driver $2.3 million this season.

2012 $1.1 million salary that's not guaranteed and also a roster bonus of $1.2 million.

So basically, the Packers could cut Driver at anytime and suffer no financial penalty.
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#180 Posted : Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:27:46 AM(UTC)

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DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
It's fricken larceny to pay Driver $2.5 Million at this stage in his career. I hope everyone is happy. My wish is for him to be beat out in training camp so we only waste $500K on a guy that drops a lot of passes and can't outrun any Dbacks anymore. The saddest thing in sports is when aging veterans don't know when to call it a day.


except in the Packers playoff game last year DD out performed all the other WR on the team.

My wish for him is he plays in the slot, catches 45 passes for about 700 yrds and provides leadership to a young talented wr core while showing how an unselfish player can succeed in the NFL!

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