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Pack93z  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:17:23 AM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
How the friggin' hell did my name get dragged into this shit.


Cause dragging your name into the fray is sure to illicit a response. :)
Zero2Cool  
#22 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:28:44 AM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
The second hurdle may be tougher... the courts allowing him flexibility in his probation.

I think the odds a slim he plays ball again.


If other hurdles are ... umm ... hurdled ... I feel probation should encourage Johnny Jolly's path to the NFL, as opposed to blocking it. Then again, the NFL could provide a support system for Jolly, or it could provide him financial means to continue his addiction on a grander scale.
Since69  
#23 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:43:25 AM(UTC)
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Well Jolly certainly shirked all of his responsibility with addiction from the beginning, like most do. It wasn't until he was at the end of his rope that he finally came around and new he needed help. It would be a very good story if we stuck with him and he made it back to the field, but I think a lot of Packer fans have already written him off. I'd be pulling for him though. There isn't anything better in our country than when a person with 2.5 strikes against him makes it. Deep down, we all root for that kind of thing.


Nah. I don't give a shit about any of that. I just want our D-Line to be better...
dfosterf  
#24 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:58:54 PM(UTC)
Fuck him. I watch how so many aspire to these so few spots, and I cannot have any sympathy. I'm sure we have let so many go that would have ultimiately been better than him as a football player in the first place, much less as a grateful (non-entitled) human being in the 2nd. He had his chances. Go bag groceries, Mr. Jolly, and reflect upon what everyone (but you) gave you to that point in your life.

I want plastic, you overly-entitled- worthless-piece- of-shit-waste-of-God-given-talent.


Other than that, I have no opinion. [-(
Zero2Cool  
#25 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:47:47 AM(UTC)
So, since he signed the contract, and is not reinstated, I believe he is the Packers property. Right?
Since69  
#26 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:13:04 AM(UTC)
I think we do still retain his rights...

Why did the league wait 9 months to reinstate him?
wpr  
#27 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:55:24 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
So, since he signed the contract, and is not reinstated, I believe he is the Packers property. Right?


yep. do we have 2 threads on this?
Pack93z  
#28 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:03:44 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
yep. do we have 2 threads on this?


3 ... there is one in the NFL section as well.. but since he still is a player the Packers retain rights to.. it should be in the Packers section.
nerdmann  
#29 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:59:50 AM(UTC)
Since69 said: Go to Quoted Post
I think we do still retain his rights...

Why did the league wait 9 months to reinstate him?


Apparently The Commish thought he was being an asshole. Can't say I disagree.
PackerTraxx  
#30 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:46:41 AM(UTC)
According to the broadcast I heard the Packers have rights to him. If he's clean and is good enough to earn a spot I'd welcome him. Heck, Lewis is probably connected with a murder and will go into the HOF. Jolly paid his debt to society if he can earn a spot let him play. What he did was stupid and wrong but we have politicians and business leaders of position that have done worse and they're still free making millions and even hundreds of millions of dollars.
JustJeff  
#31 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:41:19 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Apparently The Commish thought he was being an asshole. Can't say I disagree.


What?

Let's think for a minute... Jolly had a real problem with codeine addiction. He failed multiple drug tests and ultimately landed in jail.

Apparently the commissioner wanted Jolly to pass some drug tests as a free man.

Gaycandybacon  
#32 Posted : Friday, March 1, 2013 12:06:55 PM(UTC)
I just miss his 11-12 Pass deflections in 2009. Jolly swat!
shield4life  
#33 Posted : Friday, March 1, 2013 12:24:28 PM(UTC)
Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
I just miss his 11-12 Pass deflections in 2009. Jolly swat!


I'd be really surprised to see him back as he was in 2009. Let's not forget our scheme has changed & the game's changing as well. Revolving a lot on speed now!
FLORIDA PACKER88  
#34 Posted : Friday, March 1, 2013 4:51:47 PM(UTC)
shield4life said: Go to Quoted Post
I'd be really surprised to see him back as he was in 2009. Let's not forget our scheme has changed & the game's changing as well. Revolving a lot on speed now!



The speed shouldnt be thatmuch of a factor considering there are still plenty of guys from 09 still in the league haha. Not like the game of football has totally changed since he last played. Yes we have the advent of the read-option in the NFL, but what would a guy like Jolly do in our defense other than take up some blockers and try to penetrate into the backfield occasionally? It's not like we're going to rely on him to stretch a play out and chase down a Runningback from a two point stance. If he's in any form of shape I think we need to give him a shot as a camp body at the very least. We know he's got the talent, lets see if he can wash off the rust and make something out of it. If he cant then we cut him and no harm done. I could see this being a very Koren Robinson esq. move, very low risk with some decent payback.


steveishere  
#35 Posted : Friday, March 1, 2013 4:55:01 PM(UTC)
Everybody is always down on Pickett and CJ Wilson because they don't bring much pass rush but are excited about Jolly who never brought much pass rush.
Gaycandybacon  
#36 Posted : Friday, March 1, 2013 7:51:38 PM(UTC)
Oh ya that guy won't be the same for 2 years if he returns on a team. But you never know, you work out so much in prison and he probably lost a lot of weight. I believe in 2nd chances. I wouldn't mind seeing him on the team in Training camp as a backup. If we gave Justin Harrell so many chances, we can give this guy one.
JustJeff  
#37 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 5:41:26 AM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Everybody is always down on Pickett and CJ Wilson because they don't bring much pass rush but are excited about Jolly who never brought much pass rush.

Jolly's game is different than anyone on our current D-line. The guy is the prototypical power pig, pure, brute strenth. He may not have gotten a lot of sacks, but he brought a LOT of pressure. The ball came out quicker because his man was going into the QB's lap. Gaycandybacon mentioned Jolly's knack for pass deflections, that wasn't coincidence. It was because he was in the quarterback's grill.

Jolly's power isn't because he's a gym rat. His game wasn't built in the weight room. He's a naturally powerful man. If he can be in football shape by the end of camp, he will likely be back where he was.

As for the idea that the scheme has changed - sorry - Jolly was starting in Dom's 3-4 the last time we saw him. He's perfect for the power DE in our scheme.

A lot of people on this forum keep referring to speed when talking D-line. I don't understand that at all. How fast do you want your big guys to run? You want speed at Linebacker, but if you're expecting guys who weigh between 315 and 350 to run fast, you're asking for something that simply doesn't exist.

Jolly doesn't make a penny if he doesn't make the team. His $2.5 million tender (if not regegotiated) is 2% of the cap. That's small money for a starter, which I would expect from him if he makes the team.


Zero2Cool  
#38 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:21:58 AM(UTC)
JustJeff said: Go to Quoted Post
A lot of people on this forum keep referring to speed when talking D-line. I don't understand that at all. How fast do you want your big guys to run? You want speed at Linebacker, but if you're expecting guys who weigh between 315 and 350 to run fast, you're asking for something that simply doesn't exist.


I think if you watch this video, it might help understand why some folks are frenzied over the speed factor, - link. This is their expectation of a defensive lineman.
steveishere  
#39 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:30:33 AM(UTC)
JustJeff said: Go to Quoted Post
Jolly's game is different than anyone on our current D-line. The guy is the prototypical power pig, pure, brute strenth. He may not have gotten a lot of sacks, but he brought a LOT of pressure. The ball came out quicker because his man was going into the QB's lap. Gaycandybacon mentioned Jolly's knack for pass deflections, that wasn't coincidence. It was because he was in the quarterback's grill.

Jolly's power isn't because he's a gym rat. His game wasn't built in the weight room. He's a naturally powerful man. If he can be in football shape by the end of camp, he will likely be back where he was.

As for the idea that the scheme has changed - sorry - Jolly was starting in Dom's 3-4 the last time we saw him. He's perfect for the power DE in our scheme.

A lot of people on this forum keep referring to speed when talking D-line. I don't understand that at all. How fast do you want your big guys to run? You want speed at Linebacker, but if you're expecting guys who weigh between 315 and 350 to run fast, you're asking for something that simply doesn't exist.

Jolly doesn't make a penny if he doesn't make the team. His $2.5 million tender (if not regegotiated) is 2% of the cap. That's small money for a starter, which I would expect from him if he makes the team.




That is basically a bunch of bull. Jolly was a run stopper he brought hardly any pressure at all.
steveishere  
#40 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:49:28 AM(UTC)
Jolly had 12 pressures in his last season. The next year Jarius Wynn had 10, and everyone hated Wynn for his lack of pass rushing ability. Don't get me wrong Jolly in 2009 form would be overall the best or 2nd best lineman on the team but that doesn't mean we'd suddenly get a great pass rush from the interior.
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