Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
5 Pages<1234>»
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Zero2Cool  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:19:36 PM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,292
Applause Received: 3,463
I think if Johnny Jolly is reinstated, and if those salary numbers are correct of $2.5 million, the Packers would release him outright rather than risk paying that amount. Unless they can give him a looksie during Training Camp without costing anything ... I think that would happen and if they decided he has value, restructure his contract if necessary.
Offline Since69  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:22:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 11/2/2006(UTC)
Applause Given: 83
Applause Received: 83
RaiderPride said: Go to Quoted Post
By the way.. If he is under contract should this not be in the Packer Forum?


Well, that's where I put it...
Offline DakotaT  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:39:58 PM(UTC)
Rank: Honored Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 926
Applause Received: 1,887
I still feel bad about how Jolly was jetisoned back to Houston by the NFL and not allowed to stay in Green Bay for the help he needed with his addiction and would have received. That said, it would take him a long time to get back into football shape, and would the Packers make the investment? Athletic 300lbers don't grown on trees, and Jolly would have really helped last year.

Maybe we could PUP him and work him back into shape?
Offline TexasPackerFan  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:57:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 3
I don't see the Packers taking him back if he's allowed to play again. Too much risk involved and I think the stress from trying to get back into the NFL will lead him right back to using and eventually getting busted again. I hope I'm wrong cause he was a pretty damn good player but off the field he couldn't get it together.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:04:12 PM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,292
Applause Received: 3,463
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I still feel bad about how Jolly was jetisoned back to Houston by the NFL and not allowed to stay in Green Bay for the help he needed with his addiction and would have received. That said, it would take him a long time to get back into football shape, and would the Packers make the investment? Athletic 300lbers don't grown on trees, and Jolly would have really helped last year.

Maybe we could PUP him and work him back into shape?


The NFL didn't force him to Houston, he made that choice. He could have stayed in Green Bay. He just wasn't allowed to participate with the organization.
Offline DakotaT  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:11:36 PM(UTC)
Rank: Honored Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 926
Applause Received: 1,887
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
The NFL didn't force him to Houston, he made that choice. He could have stayed in Green Bay. He just wasn't allowed to participate with the organization.


So how was the organization suppose to help him? I get what you're saying though, he chose to go back to the ghetto and hang with his boys.

Offline dfosterf  
#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:37:06 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/19/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 228
Applause Received: 478
How the friggin' hell did my name get dragged into this shit.

Jolly done in GB, probably NFL, also, we'll see. We retain his rights. Idiot pisses me off, they usually do. I liked his play, never want him back.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:24:14 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,292
Applause Received: 3,463
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
So how was the organization suppose to help him? I get what you're saying though, he chose to go back to the ghetto and hang with his boys.


I agree with you that the NFL should allow teams to help their player, after all every player is an investment of some sort. Perhaps if the Packers could have enrolled him in some structured classes or something, it would have been different. Aaron Rodgers said it was wrong of the NFL to take Jolly away from his support system, and he's right. When Edgar Bennett first came to the Packers as a non-player, his first assignment was to keep a certain player out of trouble. I forget whom it was. Teams should be allowed to do that. Assign a representative from the team to help guide a troubled player.

I heard Johnny Jolly say that he started codeine after his shoulder injury in 2009, but then I just read a quote of his saying he's had the addiction from high school.


Offline DakotaT  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:43:27 AM(UTC)
Rank: Honored Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 926
Applause Received: 1,887
Well Jolly certainly shirked all of his responsibility with addiction from the beginning, like most do. It wasn't until he was at the end of his rope that he finally came around and new he needed help. It would be a very good story if we stuck with him and he made it back to the field, but I think a lot of Packer fans have already written him off. I'd be pulling for him though. There isn't anything better in our country than when a person with 2.5 strikes against him makes it. Deep down, we all root for that kind of thing.
Offline Pack93z  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:16:34 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Bronze: 2012

United States
Joined: 3/16/2007(UTC)
Location: North Central Wisconsin
Applause Given: 429
Applause Received: 1,186
TexasPackerFan said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't see the Packers taking him back if he's allowed to play again. Too much risk involved and I think the stress from trying to get back into the NFL will lead him right back to using and eventually getting busted again. I hope I'm wrong cause he was a pretty damn good player but off the field he couldn't get it together.



Really what is the overall risk?

He signed a one year contract with no guarantees, so if he screws up or can't play to the level they need him to, then you can simply cut him and walk away.

But if the kid can still play and he can play even close to the level he once did, 2.5 for a year is a bargain of a contract. Remember this kid may have been the best Dlineman we had.

That said.. his biggest hurdle next is two fold.. one the NFL letting him back in (the viewpoint used elsewhere (Vick, Stallworth) is that they served their time and paid there debt to society).

The second hurdle may be tougher... the courts allowing him flexibility in his probation.

I think the odds a slim he plays ball again.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
5 Pages<1234>»
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h): First round is over. Reset your passwords.
Zero2Cool (2h): Thompson on Clark: We thought he was the best player available.
IronMan (7h): Brady won his appeal. no suspension.
Yerko (8h): Happy Draft Day everyone!
Pack93z (9h): Buckeye players that is... speaking of that, anyone see Buckeye around?
Pack93z (14h): You certainly can have enough Buckeyes.... and 1 is probably too many. lol.
Zero2Cool (27-Apr): draft chat party tomorrow boys/girls welcome come all
wpr (27-Apr): Hawk is a FA
IronMan (27-Apr): AJ Hawk is still in the NFL?
FLORIDA PACKER88 (27-Apr): You can Never have Enough Buckeyes! Lets sign Lil animal Laurinitis and Hawk and put em both in the middle! ;)
wpr (26-Apr): 48 hrs until Christmas!
Zero2Cool (26-Apr): We have one too many Buckeye on the team already!!
Porforis (26-Apr): AJ Hawk released. Lol if the packers picked him up, would make for some spirited debate
Zero2Cool (25-Apr): Tom Brady re-suspended for four games. Boring.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr): and next year it'll take 24 seconds to do 2017 ;-)
Zero2Cool (25-Apr): 2016 NFL Pick'em schedule ... done!
IronMan (25-Apr): ball for 14 seconds and doesn't even get a shot off. lol
IronMan (25-Apr): So the Hawks call a TO with 15 seconds left, the coach scribbles some play down on the board. They inbound it to Teague and he holds the bal
Zero2Cool (25-Apr): Scores for every season matchup dating back to 2012 ... done!
wpr (23-Apr): Smokey I posted something a day or so ago that it is 10 + mil
Smokey (23-Apr): How much CAP money is left in the Packers acct. ?
Zero2Cool (23-Apr): ;-) until tomorrow folks
Zero2Cool (21-Apr): Always surprised how deep his non-singing voice was and also how high pitched he sang.
Pack93z (21-Apr): Purple Rain is one of my favorite album's all time... played the crap out of it as a youth.
Pack93z (21-Apr): Wow... The Prince new... just wow... different cat, great artist
Zero2Cool (21-Apr): Yes, if signed before May 12, Panthers would get comp
TheKanataThrilla (21-Apr): Never heard of him either. Had a good year, but the Panthers get a lot of pressure on the QB to his benefit.
Zero2Cool (21-Apr): Josh Norman is kind of a one year hit, right? I can't remember hearing about him ever before 2015
TheKanataThrilla (20-Apr): Do the Panthers get a comp pick if Norman signs a big contract?
IronMan (20-Apr): Favorite Band? It's a generational thing. Nobody's ever gonna be cooler than GNR for my generation. You? I love music
IronMan (20-Apr): GNR
Zero2Cool (20-Apr): Browns trade 2 overall to Eagles. Browns with a wise move.
Pack93z (20-Apr): http://oneidaeye.com/2015/08/20/ron-van-den-heuvel-ive-made-74-people-in-this-town-millionaires-godfrey-kahn-letter-to-judge-walsh-court-doc
Pack93z (20-Apr): A must read... a guy that has worked the system for years, finally having to face the music. A interview. Long live America. http://oneidaey
IronMan (20-Apr): they thought I was dead and sent the police to my house to check on me lol
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

Current Headlines

2016 Opponents
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 12:00 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
33m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Laser Gunns

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackerTraxx

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

28-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

28-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / RaiderPride

26-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Wade

26-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / warhawk

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Wade


Tweeter