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Offline DakotaT  
#41 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 8:38:11 AM(UTC)
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Isn't the issue right now whether or not the Packers bring Jolly to camp? The rest of it will work itself out. Nobody is going to just hand Jolly the starting job. If he starts and/or plays a lot of snaps, it will be because he earned them.

So the question right now among us is whether or not we feel Jolly is worthy of coming back. I'm not a big "Packer People" supporter because I believe everyone deserves second, third, fourth, or however many chances they need. None of us are water walkers, and since our Dline needs some changes - Jolly just might ge a Godsend right now. I hope he busted his ass to stay in shape, and I hope he is given the chance to succeed again.
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#42 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 9:32:32 AM(UTC)
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Maybe he'll be fresh, from not taking a pounding the last three years. lol
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#43 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 9:43:17 AM(UTC)
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The Packers need help on the DL so they should at least bring him in for a look.
Preferabally before the draft if that's possible.
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Offline JustJeff  
#44 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:45:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
Jolly had 12 pressures in his last season. The next year Jarius Wynn had 10, and everyone hated Wynn for his lack of pass rushing ability. Don't get me wrong Jolly in 2009 form would be overall the best or 2nd best lineman on the team but that doesn't mean we'd suddenly get a great pass rush from the interior.

"Pressures" as a stat is a very subjective stat. So... ten blocked passes in 12 pressures?

Zero, There's no doubt that Mike Daniels has speed, but there's a reason we only use him as a three-technique under in the nickel.

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#45 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:14:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JustJeff Go to Quoted Post
"Pressures" as a stat is a very subjective stat. So... ten blocked passes in 12 pressures?

Zero, There's no doubt that Mike Daniels has speed, but there's a reason we only use him as a three-technique under in the nickel.



You can get blown a yard backward off the line and still knock down a pass that doesn't mean you got pressure on the QB. Sure pressures is somewhat subjective but I think it's safe to say that if someone is charting your pass rushes and comes away with 12 then you didn't get much pressure whether that's the exact number or not. It's also safe to say that when Jolly was playing he most certainly did not get "a lot" of pressure on the QB.
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#46 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 2:09:42 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
You can get blown a yard backward off the line and still knock down a pass that doesn't mean you got pressure on the QB. Sure pressures is somewhat subjective but I think it's safe to say that if someone is charting your pass rushes and comes away with 12 then you didn't get much pressure whether that's the exact number or not. It's also safe to say that when Jolly was playing he most certainly did not get "a lot" of pressure on the QB.


The job of a 3-4 end is to take up blockers.
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#47 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 5:01:07 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
The job of a 3-4 end is to take up blockers.


Ok...I guess you can tell that to Justin Smith, Cullen Jenkins, and JJ Watt. If a 3-4 end has the talent to get after the QB he will be used as a pass rusher quite a bit.

Either way I wasn't saying that Jolly sucked as a lineman I said he didn't bring much pass rush... I don't see the point of your statement in the context of my post that you quoted.
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#48 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:00:56 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
Ok...I guess you can tell that to Justin Smith, Cullen Jenkins, and JJ Watt. If a 3-4 end has the talent to get after the QB he will be used as a pass rusher quite a bit.

Either way I wasn't saying that Jolly sucked as a lineman I said he didn't bring much pass rush... I don't see the point of your statement in the context of my post that you quoted.


Bruce Smith is the all time sack leader. (Officially.) He was also a 3-4 end.

Still, this is something that is not expected of Johnny Jolly, per se. If he can get there, so much the better. But his job is to clear the path for the OLBs.
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