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Offline Zero2Cool  
#61 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:07:27 PM(UTC)

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zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
Yes, what you said in the edit.

And for the record, Favre's long ball was underrated. Remember 2007? Favre had more completed long balls than Brady did, and Brady had Randy Moss in Moss's best year ever (including 1998).

You may be right about Favre learning to lay it off later in his career, but my memory sucks. I remember his later years better than his early years.

So I hope Aaron learns to lay off a little.


2007 the Packers lead the league in yards after the catch. Top of my head I can think of a few plays that were about 20 or so yards ... Jennings-slant-Chargers, Jones-curl route?-Broncos, and the overtime pass was a nice over the top pass, another slant against Chiefs ... all in 2007. Favre zipped them and the WR racked up the 'long ball' yards afterwards. Not to discredit Favre here, cuz he had to put the ball in the right place for the WR to make those yards.

2007 was a really great year for Favre, but that doesn't mean he was accurate with the deep ball (as I was mistakenly referring to) throughout his career. Look at the '03 Raiders game... the receivers made him look great that game.

Jermichael Finley would have dropped probably two TD's in that Raiders game!!
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#62 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:37:45 PM(UTC)

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Gaycandybacon said: Go to Quoted Post
James Jones over the last couple years droped balls and they still brought him back last year. Why not give Finley a chance? Obviously Jones is making most of his oppurtunity this year. Who's to say Finley can't rebound in a young 2012 season? No ones lobbying to get JJ out anymore are they?


Problem is Jones doesn't spend so much time yapping.

In fact its typically exactly the opposite. Jones invariably takes the blame.

That's part of the reason some of us get upset at Finley and annoyed/frustrated/ballistic about Finley. Finley hasn't performed on the field OR watched his mouth.

As play2win pointed out, he seems more like Javon Walker 2.0.



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#63 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:48:50 PM(UTC)

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My comment, it could be full of crap and I have no stats to back it up, but man it feels that Finley's drops are always drive ending or momentum killing drops.
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#64 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:56:56 PM(UTC)

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Every team has to have a yapper. We as Packers fans are just so full of themselves with the Titletown USA, Packers People bullshit that they forget that aside from the money and the fame, the players are out there having fun.

I like the comic relief. Finley is a charismatic guy. We haven't had that in Green Bay since Favre (though now you can count Clay Matthews as such a character) Is he being the great player he has the potential to be? No, but he's good. The only Tight Ends really playing worth a shit right now are Heath Miller and Brent Celek, and they aren't exactly the phenoms that Gronkowski and Graham are.

What I don't like is the bullshit that our coaches feed our players and having most of them say "Oh, they didn't win. We beat ourselves." That's the kind of garbage I don't like to hear, and I'd rather have Finley showboat.

Finley's Finley. It's nowhere close to what Javon Walker did.
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#65 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:37:04 AM(UTC)

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With $4.45 million bonus looming in March, Finley could be on his way out
http://profootballtalk.n...could-be-on-his-way-out/
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#66 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:22:45 AM(UTC)

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I saw we trade him and Jennings to Jacksonville for their 2nd and MJD :)
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#67 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:58:19 AM(UTC)

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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
With $4.45 million bonus looming in March, Finley could be on his way out
http://profootballtalk.n...could-be-on-his-way-out/


Best quote from the readers:
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joetoronto says: Oct 14, 2012 9:28 AM

Hell, I’ll drop balls for half of that.
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#68 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:18:12 AM(UTC)

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To tell you guys the truth, I was a big believer in Finley when we first drafted him. This kid had a lot of raw talent and is very athletic it's really a shame that he lacks concentration and confidence skills which separates him of being a good TE.

Really sad, when he got injured I really thought he would come back the following year and perform lights out, afterwards coming back from his injury I said to myself he might be out of sync and this year he would pick it up.

Eventually I see him regressed from last year ... Now I'm not saying that he doesn't have the skills / talent to become an Elite NFL TE but I don't think we should keep him after this season unless he improves in the next coming weeks. We've got more important key players waiting to be re-signed " Matthews / Raji / Aaron Rodgers and at his cap and at his level of play is a really big waste of cap space.
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#69 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:22:28 AM(UTC)

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Finley was a beast his first season then he had the injury.

For me though he just doesn't seem to have the passion of that first year any more.

I prefer the passion Tom Crabtree has for the game and the Packers.
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#70 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:13:59 AM(UTC)

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Finley's Finley. It's nowhere close to what Javon Walker did.


Yet.

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#71 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:04:41 PM(UTC)

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I do not think Finley's intention is to do harm or to cause problems. He seems like a guy who has behaved (and was allowed to behave) a certain way and still hasn't realized how it makes him sound to his teammates and fans. What was this guy like in college at TX?
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#72 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 7:38:27 AM(UTC)

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If the Packers decide to franchise Jennings next year, Finley will definitely be traded or cut after the season. If they let Jennings walk, I see Finley playing out his contract and then the team letting Finley walk after '13. He had a breakout season in '09, but then just has not been able to put it together after coming back from injury last season. His big mouth doesn't help matters either. How Quarless plays after he comes back from injury could play a part in it as well.
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#73 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 8:30:53 AM(UTC)

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If the Packers decide to franchise Jennings next year, Finley will definitely be traded or cut after the season. If they let Jennings walk, I see Finley playing out his contract and then the team letting Finley walk after '13. He had a breakout season in '09, but then just has not been able to put it together after coming back from injury last season. His big mouth doesn't help matters either. How Quarless plays after he comes back from injury could play a part in it as well.


Crabtree looked adequate yesterday.
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#74 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 8:32:31 AM(UTC)

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I do not think Finley's intention is to do harm or to cause problems. He seems like a guy who has behaved (and was allowed to behave) a certain way and still hasn't realized how it makes him sound to his teammates and fans. What was this guy like in college at TX?


talented but immature.
He is fine. As far as prima dona types go, he is harmless.
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#75 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 9:38:36 AM(UTC)

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It’s probably not the smartest thing to do: to call out your elite quarterback about getting you the ball. It’s Finley’s job to get on the same page as Aaron Rodgers, not the other way around. Especially if you want to get the ball thrown your way.
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