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Offline PackerTraxx  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:27:55 PM(UTC)
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I think Datko needs time to develop and get past his injuries. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ted Thompson pick another LT in this draft if a good one fell. I hope Bulaga can get healthy, I don't think he is. He's a hard worker and a young player so I can't see him slipping like he has this year for any other reason.
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:22:24 AM(UTC)
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:26:27 PM(UTC)
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Due to the widely variable numbers of pass attempts in the image above, the numbers can be misleading. I'd rather see them standardized in terms of percentages of pressures allowed. It's not unexpected that someone with 61 more pass protection plays to give up more pressures.
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:36:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
Due to the widely variable numbers of pass attempts in the image above, the numbers can be misleading. I'd rather see them standardized in terms of percentages of pressures allowed. It's not unexpected that someone with 61 more pass protection plays to give up more pressures.


If you look at the chart a bit more closely, and do some decuctive reasoning, you will find that it is organized by percentages.
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#35 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:13:52 PM(UTC)
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If you look at the chart a bit more closely, and do some decuctive reasoning, you will find that it is organized by percentages.


LOL, I'm not going to spend that much time staring at football stats to reason out what I'm looking for. Effective communication of data is paramount. I want to see a column showing the percentages. I (and most others) don't want to reason out how the data is arranged. That's silly. I have to do those types of things enough on the job. Since there is no link or no information about who put those numbers together, I'm not going to look at it with anything more than a cursory view. If I cared enough, I would bounce those numbers into Excel and calculate the percentages myself, but alas, I do not, mostly because I'm sure several others that get paid to do so already have.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:38:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
LOL, I'm not going to spend that much time staring at football stats to reason out what I'm looking for. Effective communication of data is paramount. I want to see a column showing the percentages. I (and most others) don't want to reason out how the data is arranged. That's silly. I have to do those types of things enough on the job. Since there is no link or no information about who put those numbers together, I'm not going to look at it with anything more than a cursory view. If I cared enough, I would bounce those numbers into Excel and calculate the percentages myself, but alas, I do not, mostly because I'm sure several others that get paid to do so already have.


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It was just a thought, since you brought it up. Here i'll sum up the reason i posted it: Only 9 players give up pressures at a higher rate than bulaga has so far this season.
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#37 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:15:51 PM(UTC)
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It was just a thought, since you brought it up. Here i'll sum up the reason i posted it: Only 9 players give up pressures at a higher rate than bulaga has so far this season.


I wasn't trying to imply that I didn't appreciate the information. I just think the numbers could be displayed in a way that is more informative, that's all. Did you make the table? If so, add a column to it. If not, where did it come from? It's interesting information.

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#38 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:17:11 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
I wasn't trying to imply that I didn't appreciate the information. I just think the numbers could be displayed in a way that is more informative, that's all. Did you make the table? If so, add a column to it. If not, where did it come from? It's interesting information.



I agree the table isn't labeled well enough to get the true point across. I did not make it, it came from profootballfocus' rankings of offensive lineman, i believe (someone else linked it to me).
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