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JSOQuote:Rookie Casey Hayward has played about as well as the Packers could have ever hoped given the responsibility he has had to take on.
But his spot in the starting lineup is not guaranteed come the Detroit game Nov. 18.
There's a good chance that Sam Shields, who has been out since the Houston game with shin and knee injuries, will be back. Funny how news seeps out sometimes. Not even an article about Shields, but it mentions him in passing. First word I've heard at all. |
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann  JSOFunny how news seeps out sometimes. Not even an article about Shields, but it mentions him in passing. First word I've heard at all. Can't wait to get him back. We'll be a force to be reckoned with paired up with Tramon and Casey.
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Might need all the CBs we can get with the starting OLBers injured... it's going to be harder to get pressure... the Cards were able to move the ball a lot better once Matthews got hurt.
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Could have sworn it was shin and ankle, but hey, at the rate this season is going, I am not surprised that we're just now hearing about his knee. |
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Don't care who starts.. they will all get meaningful snaps.
I find it such a comfort, that what was a spot that looked so dire at times last season and going into this one, has become such an area of depth and strength.
Uncle Teddy and the defensive coaches righted this ship in a hurry at a position of importance. Bravo.
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Yes. Whereas Uncle Ted hasn't drafted any Pro Bowl OLs, at least we know he's dang good at filling the DB and WR positions.
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Collins '05 - 3 Pro Bowls
Blackmon '06 - played until 2011
P Lee '08 - still active in the NFL
M Burnett '10 - still a starter for the Pack
House '11 - started 2 games this year for us
Hayward '12 - may be our steal of the 2012 draft
Then of course, two key players Uncle Ted acquired elsewhere - Sam Shields in 2010 and T Williams (one time Pro Bowler) in 2006.
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer (I'm too lazy to do WR, but I don't think I need to). Here you go, Teddy is outstanding especially in the 2nd round: Terrence Murphy 2nd 2005 (Intriguing prospect, that carreer ending injury was so bad) Greg Jennings 2nd 2006 James Jones 3rd 2007 Jordy Nelson 2nd 2008 Randall Cobb 2nd 2011 Jackpot on everyone of those, he's not so good in finding later talent. Bragg, Rogers, Swain, all out of the league. Some unproven finds on our or other teams PS, but the only other UDFA find i can think of who is still in the league is Ruvell Martin 2006. |
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Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert Here you go, Teddy is outstanding especially in the 2nd round:
Terrence Murphy 2nd 2005 (Intriguing prospect, that carreer ending injury was so bad)
Greg Jennings 2nd 2006
James Jones 3rd 2007
Jordy Nelson 2nd 2008
Randall Cobb 2nd 2011
Jackpot on everyone of those, he's not so good in finding later talent. Bragg, Rogers, Swain, all out of the league. Some unproven finds on our or other teams PS, but the only other UDFA find i can think of who is still in the league is Ruvell Martin 2006.
Swain was solid. Had a knee injury too. Last I heard he was with the Raiders. I think Rogers was drafted as more of a returner. Don't forget guys like Clowney who couldn't make our team but caught on elsewhere. |
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Don't forget guys like Clowney who couldn't make our team but caught on elsewhere. Clowney also played only 3 season IIRC. Not that bad, but not a noteable find either ;) |
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Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert Here you go, Teddy is outstanding especially in the 2nd round:
Terrence Murphy 2nd 2005 (Intriguing prospect, that carreer ending injury was so bad)
Greg Jennings 2nd 2006
James Jones 3rd 2007
Jordy Nelson 2nd 2008
Randall Cobb 2nd 2011
Jackpot on everyone of those, he's not so good in finding later talent. Man... Murphy's raw potential looked amazing... better than the others (but he was pretty raw). Some of those raw athletes don't pan out... but I just had a gut feeling he was going to be amazing... career ending injury as a rookie... too bad. |
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Originally Posted by: beast Man... Murphy's raw potential looked amazing... better than the others (but he was pretty raw). Some of those raw athletes don't pan out... but I just had a gut feeling he was going to be amazing... career ending injury as a rookie... too bad.
No, Greg Jennings is clearly the most talented at the time of being drafted. Terrance Murphy was not nearly highly as touted. It's easy to get caught up in that since no one knows, but its hyperbole and nothing more. As for the topic of this thread, Sam Shields back against Detroit? I wouldn't be surprised. |
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool No, Greg Jennings is clearly the most talented at the time of being drafted. Terrance Murphy was not nearly highly as touted. It's easy to get caught up in that since no one knows, but its hyperbole and nothing more.
As for the topic of this thread, Sam Shields back against Detroit? I wouldn't be surprised. I don't know, there was quite a bit more hyperbole about Murphy during camp before his problem came to light than the others mentioned. Although some of it could have been because we didn't have as much proven talent at wide receiver at that time. |
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Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx I don't know, there was quite a bit more hyperbole about Murphy during camp before his problem came to light than the others mentioned. Although some of it could have been because we didn't have as much proven talent at wide receiver at that time. Iirc, Murhpy had more size and speed than Jennings. Dude was gonna be a player. |
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Dude was gonna be a player. People said the same about Derrick Mayes, Robert Ferguson, etc ... |
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