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#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:51:00 AM(UTC)
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Beast makes a good point, though. Thing is, I don't know if he's good enough of a player to make that transition and be of any worth to us as a NT. He's obviously not good enough to play a 5-technique the way Pickett does and I don't see him master that position, either, long term. He offers about the same as Pickett in the pass rush department, but gets moved around way too easily for his size.

Something that's obviously an even bigger problem when you play NT.

He got exposed in his last year in college to a certain extent, which is the reason he was a 4th round pick rather than a 1st rounder. He was just someone they took a flyer on because it looked like there was some talent there in years before, even if his last year made him look more like a 7th rounder than a 1st rounder.

Obviously, the talent wasn't there. Teams don't just cut player for one incident if they're good enough. If he would've been of some use, he'd still be on that roster right now.


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makes a good point. I am use to him using that keen insight and intellect to enlighten us. That said I am a little suspect of Ta'amu's abilities. Pittsburgh coaching staff usually knows what they are doing.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:12:09 AM(UTC)
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First off the Steelers don't have the best OL, but they cut G/T Chris Scott and the Packers signed him to their practice squad just this year... and signed Kuhn in years past. So it wouldn't be totally surprise to see the Packers pick-up a former Steeler.


I think Ta'amu has the talent, he's just gotten a bit lazy lately (which if you follow NTs, isn't uncommon), remember NT Howard Green who helped the Packers win the Super Bowl, that's basically his whole career... getting in shape long enough to make the team, then falling out of shape.

Ta'amu early years in college weight got WAY up there and got way out of shape. Coaches got him and he got into a lot better shape and according to some looked like a 1st round NT (because he was a pass rushing 350 pound guy which often get over rated at the college level). Then he got senioritis his senior year of college and his stock and play when down... and rumored to report to the Steelers out of shape and over weight... then got into trouble...


My point being is there is a pattern with NTs... and Ta'amu fits in it... gets out of shape their first years until coaches get on them, then they get into shape, then when they think they're safe get out of shape if the coaches don't stay on them.

Ta'amu is very out of shape right now, and wants to act like a pass rushing DT in the pros (which he's not and his body size and play style won't let him be on a full time level) but you get coaches to get on him and stay on him, and I think he'll get into shape and start trying to level how to act and play like a run stuffer instead of the pass rushing DT which he was able to get away with in college (and his coaches might of asked him to do) but won't get away with in the pros.

At the very least I think a practice spot with close to full roster pay is worth it just to see if he has the potential going forward to keep around and see if he can stay out of trouble. Because if he can he could be a long term back-up to Raji or better... if he gets back into his really good shape he might be able to rotate other places as well and maybe help with the nickel package.

When he was in good shape his bull rush was much better than Pickett moves. Of course Pickett is much better run stuffer because Ta'amu doesn't know how to (yet).
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:35:03 PM(UTC)
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I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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